"Trump's troubles won't end with a Senate acquittal"

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  1. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    If the
    Democrats lose the House, then Trump gets to do whatever he wants with USA. That's fantastic, but...you get what you vote for.
     
  2. StillBlue

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    There was nothing "secret " about it. Her email address on the server was not hillary@state.gov but something along the lines of Hillary@clinton.com
    Anyone writing her would know that it was not the state dept server. Yet everything written to her by anyone writing from the state dept server was saved. It's really a mountain made out of a molehill. Should she have insisted that all official communications be done to her state.gov address and her blackberry phone? Certainly, but there's a lot of people that did the same thing because blackberrys were not that convenient. Colin Powell for example. Even Trump doesn't use his secure phone all the time, or any of the time for that matter but since he' s president the rules don' t apply to him.
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    You're bloody nerts. It's illegal AND impeachable. It's why we HAVE impeachment. Much as you Trumpers want him to be an all-powerful GOD who can do anything and is beholden to no one we do not elect a ****** EMPEROR every four years who is then free to do anything whatsoever to stay in office. If that is so you'd have the same man, or his picked successor in the position forever. It would be like the African nations where they elect a dictator. "One man, One Vote, ONCE"
     
  4. Darthcervantes

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    It sounds to me like you can't handle the potential 2020 outcome and are trying to create a safe space in advanced by clinging to the small hope that "oh well, if he does win congress is gonna give him a hard time"

    hey man, whatever works for you!
     
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    Aye. Personally I think that the nation is fed up with the hysterical Left's cynical and self-serving leadership, and as punishment for four years worth of unending harassment of the nation itself by the Dem Party's leadership in the form of Trump Derangement Syndrome the nation is going to punish that Party by giving the House back to the GOP. The Dem's leadership SWORE during the mid terms that if the nation saw fit to return the House to them then they would step up and act like actual adults, but instead they have been acting like nothing more than spoiled and petulant children conducting the world's longest ever food fight. At the end of 2020, the Dem Party is going to get spanked.
     
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  6. Gatewood

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    Um . . . the political Left are the ones who initiated a bogus impeachment for strictly partisan political reasons, not the Right.
     
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  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    When Trump is defeated in 2020 he can be tried for all the things the Mueller report says he's guilty of. His troubles won't end, His prison time will begin.
     
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    The Dem Party's leadership is turning off sane independents in droves. But still all the Left's increasingly insane leadership can think to do is double and triple down on more of the very same Party-damaging activities. It's as if they are now actively trying to destroy the Dem Party itself.
     
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    Whats wrong with that?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wake up! Wake up! :hug:
     
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    Just like they launched the bogus Mueller witch hunt, the sorry details of which will be coming out before the election.
     
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    Yup, normal Americans don't really pay attention to the election until several months before it, they'll be asking themselves am I better off today than I was four years ago?
     
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    African nations would also have unelected government officials, acting in a politically biased way, lie to a court and alter exculpatory evidence, as our intel services did. No wonder Trump didn't trust them on Ukraine.
     
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    Talking about the Dems digging their POTUS 'grave' for 2020 over & over again - ad infinitum, lol... Please do - perfect timing, leading up to November!
     
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    So you think it is ok for a president to use taxpayer money to pressure a foreign government to launch an investigation into a political rival.

    Wow. Just wow.
     
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  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    WHY do all the Trumpers believe that Trump is the most beloved figure in American History and that nobody will even THINK of voting for anyone else in 2020? Even given 401K's 85% of Americans don't own any stocks and they see that they are making less and less while working more and more. Wake up yourself
     
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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!

    The only way that could be more ridiculous would be to claim that the criminal IMPOTUS actually gives a crap about "poor and working-class Americans".

    :roflol:
     
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    What evidence is there that this was motivated by personal gain??

    Not the phone call. And none of the witnesses that went before the house were that that evidence..
     
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    It's illegal to withhold the aid, but the 1974 law is specific, it is a case that is to be tried in the dc court of appeals, it is absolutely legally not impeachable.

    If he did it for personal gain then it's impeachable as corruption. No evidence of that thus far however.

    Withholding the aid is absolutely not impeachable.
     
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    Because being psychics, all leftists -- from what they post anyway -- KNOW what Trump thinks and thus his real motivations for doing anything. To bad for them, of course, that actual evidence is required instead. Bummer. Trump; the first president impeached over what he MIGHT have been . . . thinking. Yeah, that's for sure going to go over well where actual independent voters are concerned.
     
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    No, that's not what I said. I said it depends on his motivations.

    He askes for the investigations on behalf of the American people. That's what the transcript of the call says.

    Prove he did it to win in 2020. Then. I'll agree he should be convicted.

    I personally believe he did it to find out about 2016. Totally not impeachable and in America's best interest.
     
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    What evidence?
    1 the fact that he never asked for investigation of corruption generally
    2 the fact that he asked for a specific investigation into the family of a political rival
    3 the fact that no other president has ever asked for a foreign government to start an investigation into an American citizen
    4 the fact that there is no American investigation into the Bidens (and, FYI, corruption by Americans abroad is a felony in the US)
    5 the fact that the request was not made by the DOJ/FBI using the treaty for cooperation in investigations
    6 the fact that Biden was, at the time, showing as beating Trump in a head to head race

    I could go on. All the evidence points to this being for Trump’s own political interests. There is no evidence that he was acting to pursue US national interests.
     
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    Wow!
     
  24. StillBlue

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    Go ahead, take a stab, give me one, just one thing that was inaccurate.
    A common discussion theme of the right is to make sweeping claims but when asked to come up with a single example they are unable to.
    So can you break the streak and give me one?
     
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    I dont doubt it for a second.

    For the last three years, when the Dem plan to overthrow the president hasnt worked out, they just went on to the next plan.

    I highly doubt they'll stop trying to overthrow him any time soon.
     
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