Why Trump is the keystone, and what the left really fears

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  1. MolonLabe2009

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    That's quite a very noble thoughts in developing character, but what can you say when Trump said "grab them by the p@ssy". How can this statement be used in such a noble act that you've wish to emphasize?.
     
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    ~ You say: "Who ? Where...? "
     
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    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/04/trump-biden-allegations/
     
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    That is not the way the rest of the world and history sees it. The history books are already telling of a Obama presidency marked by a Republican effort to block him at every step. And how he rose above it.
     
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    I'm quite sure that the, stamp your feet with your fingers in your ears, yelling la la la la la la la la la la.... Whenever the topic of the corruption and incompetence of Trump comes up, from conservatives is real mature.

    Have you ever read Nietzsche's Will to Power? There is a whole chapter on motivational speakers. And it is not pretty.

    I'm sure it appeals to a certain segment of society, but to some of us, it seems like a whole lot of silliness to lead around the weak minded with. People with strong minds see through the fraud.

    Grow up.
     
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    ~ I would seriously think about going elsewhere for news & quotes.

    Trump said in a 2005 conversation

    I’m automatically attracted to beautiful women — I just start kissing them, it’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything," "Grab 'em by the *****."

    Not rape by any stretch of the imagination.
     
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    Hate to break your bubble, but that is predator behavior. As a man who, at a time in his life, has been mobbed by women, the attraction thing works a bit different than that. If he was the star y'all think he is, the brag would have been quite different. He would be bragging about all the random women who flash him their boobs or rub up along side of him and do some touching of their own. It is as if he has never had a women side up next to him and whisper into his ear, "nice ass" as she gave it a squeeze. Instead you get him bragging about copping feels, and getting away with it because of his position of power.
     
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    So you pretend that sexual motivations, words, lustful thoughts, everything of that nature is a sign of bad character? Trump says something personal in private, and some jerk uses it to create a public issue. But you have no problem with that. Sex and interest in sex, interest in the opposite gender- American as apple pie. Totally human nature. Not always handled respectfully, but then- at it's worst, probably several notches in respectability above the way we conduct politics.

    You are trying to use a comment made in private to imply a judgment of the whole person. Probably never had a lustful thought in your life, and assume that is righteous....
    Perhaps you were told that you were immaculately conceived in the dark in absolute silence or something.
     
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    Right on target. Exactly the same as my thinking though you state it better that I would. It also answers why Republican never-Trumpers.
     
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    An odd statement. What the left and Democrats desperately want is a non-republic autocratic oligarchy.
     
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    How tiring- boring, useless trash. The only thing you have right is that strong minds see through the fraud- IF they are actually healthy and strong minds. If the image of strong is the way they hide their weakness, it's fake, and such people are both wrong and dangerous. And I was not a motivational speaker- I was a lifeskills trainer, a person teaching others how they could find their own power and control their own lives- and the material was my own. Big difference. It has nothing to do with leading people- nothing to do with pumping their egos- it has to do with showing them how to lead themselves on their own terms. Obviously not something you would find useful.
     
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    If you have an argument to make, make it in accordance with the forum rules.

    I don't read links to third-party sites or watch videos or listen to sound files.... without arguments.

    Just so you know...

    But you might benefit from this one. Which is not to a third-party site but an explanation on this forum as to the difference between overreaching and abuse of power.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...fuse-abuse-of-power-with-overreaching.567350/
     
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    Obama abused power for 8 fricking years and you left-wingers didn't give a crap!
     
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    What is weird is that you find "odd" a statement for which there is, at a minimum, indications that the current President might be seeking (personally I would say there is distinct evidence), and immediately counter with one for which there is no indication whatsoever.

    Unless you can show some indication that Democrats want to establish a Monarchy. Which is the alternative to a Republic. I haven't seen such possibility even raised by anybody except you here.
     
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    And if the wingnut media tell you so, you just accept it as Gospel Truth, right?

    I prefer to not get into discussions of anybody's personal religious beliefs.
     
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    And if the left-wingnut media tells you that Trump is a bad orange man, you just accept it as Gospel Truth, right?
     
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    I don't have to. Who in their right mind wouldn't know that a person who separates children from their family with no intention whatsoever to ever reunite them and as a matter of policy is not a bad man?
     
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    More fake news.
     
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    Well, I never claimed that the Democrats want a monarchy, but who's counting?
     
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    A lifeskills trainer? Who the heck needs a life skills trainer? No wonder you think everyone is a loser.
     
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    You said that democrats don't want a republic. The alternative to a republic is a monarchy... Ask Dr. Franklin.
     
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    You are absolutely right no rape did occur, but women are not like that, they are not a delicacy or sort of to savor if someone wanted to, they need respect and they need respect like my Mom, Grandma, Sisters, My Daughters, and My wife. No one should grab them by the ***** just like grabbing a doughnut out from a table.
     
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