"Trump's troubles won't end with a Senate acquittal"

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  1. Nemesis

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    Oh, Christ. *LOL*
     
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    It wasn't a "vote to impeach," Trump was impeached, only the third President in two hundred plus years of American History to be impeached, that is the history

    They don't have to impeach Trump again, just keep doing what is their responsibility, oversight, from emoluments concerns to lawsuits to tax questions to further Ukraine revelations, Trump just makes it so easy

    And spare us the martyr role, the mad at the 2016 election bullshit, the GOP set the precedent, nearly a decade of endless often redundant "investigations" into anything and everything Obama/Clinton
     
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    And he'll set a first in the history of the Republic: the first POTUS to be re-elected after being impeached by mental defectives.

    Why not impeach him again? We could get him a punch card.

    Yes, yes. The "bullshit" of the GOP looking into why Clinton had classified information on a private server, how Obama and Clinton left Americans to be overran in Benghazi, and why the Obama administration was selling guns to Mexican drug cartels.

    Those bastards.
     
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    The Clinton campaign hired a firm working for Republicans who hired a lawyer who hired a prior British agent to went to Russian sources for information, not quite the "deep state" narrative you would like to believe and certainly doesn't match up with the Trump campaign meeting directly with Russians hoping to obtain aid in their campaign

    Again, as the IG report showed, and if you actaully read the primary sources rather than listening to Hannity, you would know that the dossier played a minor role at best in the FISA applications

    And, other than Hannity, has proven that the FISA applications were obtained illegally? The IG report certainly didn't conclude that, quite the opposite, mistakes were made, but nothing illegal was proven
     
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    Yes because if you hire someone to find a guy who knows a hitman to kill someone, you have zero culpability in the process.

    Can I use this in my sig with the current date?

    "Again, as the IG report showed, and if you actaully read the primary sources rather than listening to Hannity, you would know that the dossier played a minor role at best in the FISA applications" - archives 1/28/20

    I'd suggest you catch up on the events from the last year or so.
     
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    Remains to be seen, but he will still be only the third President ever impeached in American history

    And as McCarthy revealed, those "investigations" were politically motivated, and even with those endless redundant investigations, nothing was proved, zilch, zero, so either the GOP are the worst investigators in the world, or, nothing was there to prove, common sense dictates the later
     
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    Is it a clinical mental illness to continually repeat claims debunked long ago?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like Russia Russia Russia?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and it will be used as a cautionary tale told by Democrats to scare their aborted fetuses late in the night.

    Sure.

    Dead Americans at an embassy, classified information illegally taken and stored on private servers, and selling guns to Mexican drug cartels are "political" issues.
     
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    Did they or did they not meet directly with Russians? Were they contacted directly by Russians offering aid which they eagerly looked forward to obtain? Did they have over one hundred documented contacts with Russians, or, sit down with Russians to exchange data in swing States? Next

    And other than repeating my post, you offered nothing to invalidate it, only implied because I don't buy the Hannity version I am not up "on events of the last year," I'll go with the actual documentation
     
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    You mean like this?

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    As I said, nothing was proven, zilch, zero, no one was found guilty of anything, no one went to jail, no outside prosecutor was assigned, it was all just to intiate inneundo for talk radio and Fox demogoguery
     
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    The key word is "coordination," no, Mueller couldn't establish such, then again, he wasn't really looking for it knowing it would never be looked at under DOJ guidelines, but can't deny the continuous meetings, over a hundred documented, and only a fool would believe those contacts were to discuss the weather, it seems the only thing the Russians didn't do was park cars
     
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    So what you're saying is that an elected President and his incoming administration had a lot of meetings with Russians.

    I bet that's never happened before.
     
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    Oh I see.

    Getting Americans killed at embassies, putting classified information on private servers, and selling guns to Mexican drug cartels is fine.

    I mean as long as no one was held accountable, that is.
     
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    No, in the judicial system one has to be actually proven to have done something, echoing inneundos or conducting redundant "investigations" that result in nothing isn't proof

    Problem is you are accepting those inneundos as facts, and none of them, even after umpteen investigations, have been proven to be facts, again, just inneundos
     
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    Trump wasn't President, nor did anyone on his staff or in his campaign represent the US Gov't
     
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    By the way that 54.7% is now 55.1%. Good luck in November.
     
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    Perhaps you should try reading the first sentence, and the first 5 words of the second sentence of the Mueller finding.
     
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    1. Fact: Classified information was found on Clinton's private server.
    2. Fact: Embassy was overrun and people were killed
    3. Fact: The Obama administration intentionally sold firearms to Mexican drug cartels.

    Leftists: Meh. Orange man bad.
     
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    None of that even reached the level of a Republican Congress initiating or calling for a special prosecutor or an outside investigation, in fact, they couldn't even prove any of your accusations after trying for eight years straight. Yes people were killed and guns passed to drug cartels, but reaching the conclusion that all of that was Obama/Hillary's fault is nothing more than Hannity innuendos
     
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    You mean his favorability numbers are at fifty five percent now? Even the Razzy hasn't gone that high (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html) while less than forty percent with the Razzy included, feel that Trump is leading the country in the right direction (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html)

    As I said, don't be too confident that Americans think the good economy is because of Trump rather than in spite of Trump
     
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    Right.

    Classified information slipped onto the server, all of the fast reaction vehicles broke down, and the drug cartel purchasers were actually really nice people.

    Not anybody's fault really.

    Translation: I shall slip into the Democrats other favorite response to all criticism: incompetence.
     
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    The 51.6% disapprove of his job performance overall, and that is growing. Obama would be over 70% on the economy if he has this, yet Trump has negative on job performance overall and a 54% on economic performance that is going to start falling.

    It is whgat it is, professor.
     
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