Senate never investigated Biden & Burisma

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Senate has been under GOP rule since 2010. In all those years, they never considered the Biden/Burisma matter important enough to warrant an investigation.

    Then Biden decides to run, and all of the sudden its a big deal? Hmmm...

    Mind you, till this day there is still NO Senate investigation into Biden and Burisma.
     
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    and strangely enough the President is no longer pushing for it either...
     
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    Exactly! They aren't going to nitpick every little suspect thing. But now that the Democrats have, so will they. The payback is gonna suck for dems. I predict impeachment trials for every president, red or blue, going forward for the next 40 years. All because some whiney lefty cry babies happened to not personally like trump. Get ready!
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let us know when the Senate decides to actually start investigating Biden and Burisma.

    Waiting.....waiting..tick tock...
     
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    And yet it was AOK to impeach Clinton for lying about a BJ in a civil law suit brought by Paula Jones??
     
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    That is the best you can come up with?
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is how team Trump roll. Whatever happened to "lock her up." Trump is a great understudy of communists tactics.
     
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    Come on everybody. The reason that this is never going to be investigated is that nobody wants to upset the family cash cow..
     
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    No it hasn't.

    The Senate has been under GOP control since January of 2015, not 2010.
     
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    Now the legislature suddenly has the enumerated power of foreign policy to conduct investigations of foreign businesses.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They can investigate whatever they like.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great.

    Point to where the Constitution gives Congress the authority to investigate whatever they'd like.
     
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    because the republicans are more principled and have a much higher threshold to impeach. What is impeachment? overriding will of the people, a couple of hundred partisan hacks more important than 65 million people? This threatens our very democracy, to basically go above 65 million people and do this on 100% partisan lines. How does it look when not a single republican in the house voted for impeachment? NOT A SINGLE ONE OUT OF 196? not 4, 2, 3, even 1?

    What Biden did was clearly worse than what Trump did but the republicans would've never seeked impeachment over this as they actually respect the power of impeachment and understand it's nothing more than nullifying the american people's votes. This democratic house promised to impeach the president from day 1 and were just looking for a reason, any reason. Look up efforts to impeach Trump, the dems have been trying to draft articles of impeachment since 2017, even for Trump's response to Charlottesville.
     
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  14. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    oh, you mean like lying about a blow job.

    that's grounds to impeach and remove a President from office.

    LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!
     
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  15. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    oh yes, the Senate has the power to and has done many investigations over our 250 year history.

    https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Investigations.htm

    Senate Investigations: A Selected List

    1859-1860 Select Committee to Inquire into the Facts of the Recent Invasion and Seizure of the United States Armory at Harper's Ferry (The Harper's Ferry Inquiry)

    Resolution passed: December 15, 1859. Report: June 15, 1860.

    Chairman: James Murray Mason (D-VA)

    Investigation of John Brown's raid on the arsenal at Harper's Ferry, Virginia.

    1861-1865 Joint Committee on the Conduct of the War

    Resolution passed: December 10, 1861. Report: May 22, 1865.

    Chairman: Senator Benjamin Wade (R-OH)

    Investigation of the executive branch's conduct of the Civil War.

    1871-1873 Select Committee to Investigate Alleged Outrages in the Southern States

    Resolution passed: January 19, 1871. Terminated: March 12, 1873.

    Chairman: John Scott (R-PA)

    Investigation of Ku Klux Klan activities in North Carolina.

    1885-1886 Select Committee to Investigate Interstate Commerce

    Resolution passed: March 17, 1885. Report: January 18, 1886.

    Chairman: Shelby Cullom (R-IL)

    Investigation of railroad and water interstate transportation regulation; led to 1887 passage of Interstate Commerce Act.

    1912 Senate Committee on Commerce, Subcommittee Hearings (Titanic Disaster Investigation)

    Hearings: April 18, 19, 22, 1912. Report: May 28, 1912.

    Chairman: William Alden Smith (R-MI)

    Investigation of the sinking of the H.M.S. Titanic.

    1912 Committee on Privileges and Elections, Subcommittee Hearings (The Clapp Committee)

    Resolution passed: April 27, 1912. Hearings: June, October 1912.

    Chairman: Moses E. Clapp (R-MN)

    Investigation of campaign contributions during the presidential elections of 1904 and 1908.

    1913-1917 Senate Committee on the Judiciary Special Lobby Investigation

    Hearings: June to September 1913, January to July 1914. Report July 16. 1917.

    Chairman: Charles A. Culberson (D-TX)

    Investigation of alleged lobbying activities in Washington, D.C., and elsewhere.

    1923-1924 Committee on Public Lands and Surveys (The Teapot Dome Investigation)

    Hearings: October 22, 1923 to May 14, 1924. Report: June 6, 1924.

    Chairman: Thomas J. Walsh (D-MT)

    Investigation of government oil reserves in Wyoming leased to oilmen and developers.

    1932-1934 Committee on Banking and Currency Investigation of Wall Street (The Pecora Wall Street Expose)

    Hearings: April 11, 1932 to May 4, 1934.

    Chairman: Peter Norbeck (R-SD), 1932-1933; Duncan U. Fletcher (D-FL), 1933-1936

    Investigation of Wall Street banking and stock exchange practices; led to passage of the Securities Act of 1933, the Banking Act of 1933, and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934.

    1933 Special Committee to Investigate Air Mail and Ocean Mail Contracts

    Resolution passed: February 25, 1933. Terminated: June 30, 1936.

    Chairman: Hugo Black (D-AL)

    Investigation into use of government mail subsidies; led to passage of Air Mail Act of 1933.

    1934-1936 Special Committee Investigating the Munitions Industry (The Nye Munitions Committee)

    Hearings: September 1934 to February 1936.

    Chairman: Gerald R. Nye (R-ND)

    Investigation of the manufacturing and sale of munitions and the economic circumstances of U.S. entry into World War I.

    1935-1938 Special Committee to Investigate Lobbying Activities (Public Utility Companies Investigation)

    Resolution passed: July 11, 1935. Terminated: June 16, 1938.

    Chairman: Hugo Black (D-AL), 1935-1937; Sherman Minton (D-IN), 1937-1938

    Investigation of public utility company lobbyists.

    1936-1940 Education and Labor Committee, Subcommittee on Civil Liberties (Senate Civil Liberties Committee)

    Hearings: April 10, 1936 to July 1, 1940.

    Chairman: Robert M. La Follette, Jr. (R-WI)

    Investigation of antiunion practices.

    1941-1948 Special Committee to Investigate the National Defense Program (The Truman Committee)

    Resolution passed: March 1, 1941. Last hearing: November 22, 1948.

    Chairman: Harry S. Truman (D-MO), 1941-1945; James M. Mead (D-NY), 1945-1947; Owen Brewster (R-ME), 1947-1948

    Investigation of defense contracts.

    1945-1946 Joint Committee on the Investigation of the Pearl Harbor Attack (Pearl Harbor Committee)

    Hearings: November 1945 to May 1946.

    Chairman: Alben Barkley (D-KY)

    Investigation of the attack at Pearl Harbor.

    1949 Committee on Expenditures in the Executive Departments, Investigations Subcommittee ("Five Percenters" Investigation)

    Hearings: August 8 to 26, 1949. Report: January 18, 1950.

    Chairman: Clyde R. Hoey (D-NC)

    Investigation of influence peddling in defense contracts.

    1950 Foreign Relations Committee Subcommittee Investigation of Charges by Senator McCarthy (The Tydings Committee)

    Hearings: March 8 to June 28, 1950. Report: July 20, 1950.

    Chairman: Millard E. Tydings (D-MD)

    Investigation of alleged disloyalty by State Department employees.

    1950-1951 Special Committee to Investigate Organized Crime in Interstate Commerce (The Kefauver Committee)

    Resolution passed: May 3, 1950. Report: August 31, 1951.

    Chairman: Estes Kefauver (D-TN), 1950-1951; Herbert R. O'Conor (D-MD), 1951

    An investigation of organized crime in America. Many of the hearings were broadcast nationally on television.

    1951 Committee on Armed Services and the Committee on Foreign Relations Inquiry into MacArthur Dismissal (The MacArthur Inquiry)

    Hearings: May 3 to June 27, 1951.

    Chairman: Richard Russell (D-GA)

    Investigation of the dismissal of General of the Army Douglas MacArthur and of U.S. policy in the Far East.

    1953-1954 Senate Committee on Government Operations, Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations (The McCarthy Hearings) and (The Army-McCarthy Hearings)

    The investigations by this subcommittee can be divided into two distinct phases. The first consisted of a series of hearings conducted by Joseph McCarthy throughout 1953 regarding alleged Communist influence on the press and on government, including "The Voice of America," the State Department's overseas information centers, and the U.S. Army.

    Report: January 25, 1954.

    Chairman: Joseph R. McCarthy (R-WI)

    The second phase involved the committee's investigation of Senator McCarthy's attacks on the army. These hearings were broadcast on national television.

    Hearings: April 22 to June 17, 1954. Report: August 31, 1954.

    Acting Chairman: Karl E. Mundt (R-SD)

    1957-1960 Select Committee on Improper Activities in Labor-Management Relations (Labor Racketeering Investigation)

    Resolution passed: January 30, 1957. Report: March 31, 1960.

    Chairman: John L. McClellan (D-AR)

    Investigation into corruption in the labor or management field, including in the Teamsters union. The committee heard from more than 1,500 witnesses over 270 days of hearings.

    1964 Rules and Administration Committee (Bobby Baker Case)

    Hearings: October and December 1963; February, October, December, 1964. Report: July 8, 1964.

    Chairman: B. Everett Jordan (D-NC)

    Investigation of conflicts of interest and financial improprieties engaged in by Baker, who served as secretary to the majority until he resigned on October 7, 1963.

    1973-1974 Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities (The Watergate Committee)

    Resolution passed: February 7, 1973. Report: June 27, 1974.

    Chairman: Samuel Ervin (D-NC)

    Investigation of possible corruption in the 1972 presidential election campaign.

    1975 Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities (Church Committee)

    Resolution passed: January 27, 1975. Report: April 29, 1976.

    Chairman: Frank F. Church (D-ID)

    Investigation into abuse of power in intelligence-gathering by CIA and the FBI.

    1987-1989 Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition
    (Iran-Contra Hearings)

    Hearings: May 5 to August 3, 1987. Report: November 17, 1987.

    Chairman: Daniel Inouye (D-HI)

    Investigation into alleged covert sales of military equipment to Iran and diversion of the proceeds to aid the Nicaraguan Contras.
     
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    lied under oath, that's pretty darn serious for a president. Have you seen how some have been jailed for lying to FBI? yeah...

    and he obstructed justice, people forget Clinton was accused of obstructing justice by trying to coerce, intimidate, alter facts, silence people.

    My personal opinion is that that too didn't meet the threshold but came much closer than what we are seeing today. Biden's actions were WAY worse than Trump's, no democrat ever cared, you hear them raising alarm bells?. Plus, look at all the attempts to impeach Trump, there was even a push to draft articles for lack of 'morality' during Charlottesville. Yes, at this moment, democrats have no principles, they from day 1 promised to impeach Trump just because he's Trump.
     
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    Wait, I thought Biden/Burisma was debunked? If it wasn't investigated, who debunked it? Snopes? lol
     
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    The Senate can call any witnesses they like or not call any witnesses.
     
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    Number one, Biden's Son didn't work for Burisma in 2010. Biden didn't threaten to hold back money for Ukraine in 2010. Russia hadn't invaded Ukraine in 2010. Not until Biden's Son started working for Burisma and it looked like the Ukraine investigator was going to ruin Biden's Son of an $88.000 a month job did Biden decide to get rid of the investigator.
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    He did push it and that is why he is facing impeachment charges
     
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    Why on earth would the Senate investigate Biden/Burisma/Ukraine???
     
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    I think that it doesnt stop with Biden. Profiting off your position of power is rampant in congress. In otherwords... its opening a can of worms for republicans and democrats.

    Plus the republicans are ultra concerned about how they are portrayed in the liberal, democratic arm of the democrat party....the media. There would be so many investigative reporters digging into republicans. Remember how many republicans retired after Trump was elected? I wonder about them.....

    Even bush positioned Bidens son on the board of Amtrak. Was that a favor for a favor?

    Personally I think there is a lot to uncover as the culture in DC is ingrained with this type of corruption but the media isn't interested in causing trouble for their guys and republicans lack courage.
     
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    FACT: when Shokin was fired from the Ukranian Investigator Office, he was not looking into Burisma. The case has laid dorment for years. Shokin could care less about Burisma.
     
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    Clinton wasn't impeached for Lewinsky.

    He was impeached for Jones.
     
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    They can investigate anyone apparently.

    Maybe they can just issue subpoenas and have Ukraine appear.
     
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