GOP should allow more witnesses!!!

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  1. ButterBalls

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    Like I SAID! And I was right ;)
     
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    Interesting isn't it? Trump was called "an existential threat to our nation" and 'a threat to our democracy," etc... and yet the House dems could not be bothered to subpoena Bolton or his aid. They met a little resistance and gave up. And now we are once again supposedly a nation in turmoil with our very system of government in the balance if Bolton is not subpoenaed. It's all so transparent, how full of crap the dems are.

    And need we remind anyone that the Democrats still have ZERO proof of any of their non-crime charges against Trump.
     
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    Bolton is going to spill the beans on some figure from leftist mythology??? Since Bolton is already on record speaking favorably of the calls on Radio liberty, and Schiff is on record as saying Bolton isn't credible, and the New Your Slime appears to define anonymous source as pulled it out my ass. I seriously doubt Bolton is going to add anything worthwhile to the current conversation.
     
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    Shows how unimportant the dems thought he was. Thanks for playing.
     
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    Not surprising from the crew that wanted Avenatti to run for President.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't wait to hear Bolton spill the beans on Trump. Its gonna be awesome!!!! :)
     
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    As awesome as this?

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    You were pretty excited about that too!
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrat "stars" against Trump (and his supporters) so far:

    "The Russians"
    Michael Avenatti
    Michael Cohen
    Robert Mueller
    Jussie Smollett
    Corey Lewindowsky
    Nathan Phillips
    The "Whistleblower"
    Lev Parnas
    Michael Bolton

    I may have missed one or two.

    All the past "stars" failed to produce partisan benefits to Democrats and left Democrats with egg of their face. Parnas and Bolton won't be any different, I suspect.
     
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    This has been the M.O. of these fools. Ever couple months their puppet masters whip out some new imagined conspiracy crime that Trump is supposedly guilty of. Every single time, these fools dearly believe what their puppet masters have told them. Then we disprove what they claimed, and they don't even blink, cuz their puppet masters pull their strings to point at the next shiny object.
     
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    You are just witnessing people whose arguments are getting shot down every time, they know they can no longer compete in the arena of ideas, their side of the argument is lost, so they resort to name calling.

    Notice how these same people are just as sure of themselves, and just as amendment that they are correct, when they accused Trump of colluding with Russians and violating the Emoluments Clause, yadda, yadda, etc... Accusing Trump of a quid pro quo with Ukraine is just Emoluments Clause 3.0.

    Next month these same fools will be claiming Trump's guilty of some new conspiracy theory, and they will believe that one just as fervently as they believe this one today.
     
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    The House dems could not wait either, in fact they were so uninspired they never bothered to wait at all.
     
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    Its like bizarro world!
     
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    Tell Nadler to issue a subpoena for Bolton first thing Monday morning. :)
     
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    Well in any case the left is consistent at losing anyway :)
     
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    I wonder how much these DP geniuses had to pay their political strategists/advisors to lead them over this Buffalo Drop cliff to the delight of their opposition.



    Kind of disturbing even if you try to visualize jackasses instead of buffalos.
     
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    And that is a very abbreviated list too.

    Sure, we can call more witnesses and show the world what kooks and partisan hacks the dems are, but next month they will back with a whole new conspiracy theory, and all these dems will hit the reset switch in their pea brains, and we will be back at it, showing them how stupid their next conspiracy theory is - rinse and repeat... ad nauseam.

    These simpletons never ask themselves the obvious questions:

    1) Where is the impeachment charge against Trump for violating the Emoluments Clause?

    2) Where is the impeachment charge against Trump for colluding with the Russians??

    3) Where is the impeachment charge against Trump for obstruction of justice with the Mueller investigation???

    4) Where is the impeachment charge against Trump for firing Director Comey????

    5) Where is the impeachment charge against Trump for violating Federal law by asking the Russians if they can find Hilary's 30k missing emails, which prohibits campaigns from soliciting or accepting anything of value from a foreign national

    6) Where is the impeachment charge against Trump for promoting his club in Doral Florida as a possible location for the 2020 G-7 Conference??????

    7) Where is the impeachment charge against Trump for directing Michael Cohen to make illegal hush payments to Stormy Daniels???????

    8) Where is the impeachment charge against Trump for the trump tower meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya????????

    These TDS afflicted Democrats are shameless. We could point out all the times they have been bitch-slapped for claiming they finally have the goods on Trump, and failed, again. But it will not prevent their giddiness when they are presented the next "we really have him now" criminal conspiracy theory, they claim will take down Trump.
     
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    Well you can be sure "The sky's the limit" in politics.. AND everyone has their price :)
     
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    The link doesn't seem to work. 2nd try:

     
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    Its about corruption of the legal process - both Red and Blue.

    I'm with Dershowitz - who has maintained a consistent stance in both the Clinton witch hunt - and the Trump - Russiagate - which hunt.

    What did the # of inches of cigar - slick William aka Slick Willy - inserted into Monica's oval orifice have to do with Whitewater ?

    The Special Prosecutor is given "special powers" - to really fk with your life - no questions asked. We then give this power - for a very specific purpose - that must meet a high bar - and limited only to that.

    If that purpose is to investigate this genuine National Security Threat - What would that be ? - "FB ads" ? not - how about "Hacking the DNC"

    That is then what the investigation is limited to - but even including the ads .. OK .. so prove Trump aided with the hack - or that he paid for the FB ads.

    What does some fellow's tax records - from 10 years ago have to do with this ? ... Out of Scope - immaterial - in no way linked - one to the other.

    If we want to use the technical term - as per meeting the definition given in the Declaration OI .. "Illegitimacy of Authority" .. would be the term .. one that the D-man would use. One of the staunch defenders of liberty - regardless of imperfections - and relative to a swamp of imperfections. That swamp being the rest of the Cacophony in the MSM.

    There are other voices .. like Rand Paul .. Tulsi Gabbard .. and others that are on the same page .. and we should listen to them .. and join the Anti Establishment .. Wouldn't that be an interesting name for a 3rd party !
     
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    Agreed, 100%, but AG Reno kept telling Star to widen his scope and investigate ever more crap.
     
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    The mass political movement put DJT in the WH by uniting anti-establishment Independents, Republicans and Democrats. The RP will probably have one more chance to at least propose fundamental reforms that will reduce the size and power of government while empowering and enriching the productive working class.
    Real solutions are possible, but I am not very optimistic.

    Absent real reform an anti-establishment party might become viable very soon.
     
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    Well yes .. once you breach the dam .. start down that slippery slope - there is a reason why it is slippery - the crowd goes wild.
    "More power - what can I do with this POOOOOOWWWWWAAAAAAAHHH AAHHHHHH.

    Which is is why some of us want to maintain those barriers. The Establishment does not need more power. How about "Less Power".

    Russiagate was a power grab - an excuse for censorship - clamping down on freedom of information, freedom of speech, freedom of the press.

    From a recent interview with Oliver Stone - brought to you by RT ... your only source for anti establishment voices :)

    https://www.rt.com/news/479584-stone-hollywood-censorship-money/
     
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    Cool - that you agree that there is potential for such a thing - there seems to be a sort of tipping point for such things ... " Extra ordinary delusions and the madness of crowds" Charles Makey .. . Where various mania's are examined .. tulip bubble .. witch hunts . and
    Much study goes into such things from an economic perspective .. if you know which way the herd is going .. you can make money .. but the social perspective is part of it and a driver.

    Do you think the crowd is ready ? - This group (AE) decided the last election. This group has only grown since then - in this 3 year long clown show.

    Warren did something - something that gets the big X buzzzzz - in keeping with one of the primary Establishment efforts these days .. criminalizing information ..

    brought to you by the premier AE website - https://www.rt.com/usa/479536-warren-demands-criminalizing-voting-disinfo/
     
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    This will probably finish off Warren forever. What she gained by supporting the break up of monopolies she has lost with this latest fascist rant against free speech.

    If Trump, the rebels' candidate wins and proposes substantive popular reforms and the RP/DP refuse to enact them an anti-establishment third party could be created overnight.
     
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    OMG - please let it not be so - LOL - but you may be on to something. That said .. Trump is firmly Establishment as well in many ways. Let's see if he calls out Poko on the free speech issue. Have not seen him put up any defense of Assange .. helped get him out of prison at this point .. what ever he did .. - the worst of what he is accused of - he has served is time.

    I thought we were supposed to stand for liberty - due process - and the rule of law. The violations against this man are numerous.

    Oh but but - he aided Manning - suggesting he use familiar words as passwords... something many journalist might suggest to a source - that source being inside the US Gov't .. outing crimes of that Gov't.

    That is the worst he accused of - The dude/gal who did the crime - served her time already -

    There is a principle in justice called Actus Rea - and Men's rea ... the accused has to 1) have committed the crime 2) intended it. Assange did not hatch a plan to steal the information .. Manning did that .. and did the deed .. upon receipt of some information - Assange had conversations with Manning - as would be expected .. when Manning wanted to get more info -- Assange made some password suggestions.

    Sketchy at best. Then to the question of Actus Rea - Assange did not do the crime - steal the information - he was aware but this is something we deem acceptable for our reporters all the time.

    Actus Rea is tough to establish - and only on some secondary offence .. so what is the punishment for that ? far less than what Assange has already served.

    So what was the magnitude of the crime ? a crime of "Civil Disobedience" in many respects. national security is still intact - there was nothing of great danger .. sans a few operatives - no harm of which has come to any of them. A small setback in our spy program - the deeds of which have been sketchy at best lately... Arming Al Qaeda in Syria, and Yemen ..

    This is a full on assault on freedom of the press, information, speech ..
     

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