Senate never investigated Biden & Burisma

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  1. PeppermintTwist

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    And he never submitted any official complaint or paperwork with any of the branches of the government of the USA but instead sent his personal goon Ghoul-iani on the mission. lmao
     
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    That's total bullshit. Here is the sworn affidavit that contradicts everything you said. Read at paragraph 6 and 8. Biden is a POS.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement
     
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  3. Ronstar

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...e-probe-casts-doubt-on-giuliani-s-biden-claim

    There’s little question that the Bidens’ paths in Ukraine held the potential for conflict, and in a tweet last week, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani said the U.S. should investigate the matter. But what has received less attention is that at the time Biden made his ultimatum, the probe into the company -- Burisma Holdings, owned by Mykola Zlochevsky -- had been long dormant, according to the former official, Vitaliy Kasko.

    “There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky,” Kasko said in an interview last week. “It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015.”

    Kasko’s assessment adds a wrinkle to one of the first political intrigues of the 2020 election season. It undercuts the idea that Biden, now a top Democratic presidential candidate, was seeking to sideline a prosecutor who was actively threatening a company tied to his son. Instead, it appears more consistent with Biden’s previous statements that he was pressing for the removal of a prosecutor who was failing to tackle rampant corruption: According to public reports and internal documents from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office, U.S. officials had expressed concern for more than a year about Ukrainian prosecutors’ failure to assist an international investigation of Zlochevsky.

    The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.

    In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.

    Shokin became prosecutor general in February 2015. Over the next year, the U.S. and the International Monetary Fund criticized officials for not doing enough to fight corruption in Ukraine.

    Shokin took no action to pursue cases against Zlochevsky throughout 2015, said Kasko, who was Shokin’s deputy overseeing international cooperation and helping in asset-recovery investigations. Kasko said he had urged Shokin to pursue the investigations.

    Shokin has denied any accusations of wrongdoing and declined to provide immediate comment for this article. In an interview with the Ukrainian website Strana.ua published on May 6, Shokin said he believes he was fired because of his Burisma investigation, which he said had been active at the time.

    In October 2017, Burisma issued a statement saying Ukrainian prosecutors had closed all legal and criminal proceedings against it.

    Sargan said the prosecutor general hasn’t reopened the case into Burisma or Zlochevsky, contradicting a claim in the New York Times that the Ukrainian prosecutor is scrutinizing millions of dollars of payments from Burisma to the firm that paid Hunter Biden. Ari Isaacman Bevacqua, a Times spokeswoman said, “We stand by our reporting, which is detailed and well documented.”
     
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    No grounds to investigate the Bidens.
     
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    No grounds to investigate Trump.
     
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    If the Senate or the DOJ start and investigation in to the crimes of Biden, then the democrats will start screaming abuse of power and we get to start impeachment all over again. But after the election perhaps to quote the words of the messiah, Trump can say "I'll have more flexibility" then how about a special prosecutor made up of 100% republican donors (just to mirror the Mueller investigation) to take on that investigation. Sound familiar?
     
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    StarFox, I say this nicely, none of that makes sense.
     
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    Trump wasn't President then :wierdface:¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Pretty much! Old adage "Don't want NONE, don't start NONE" :) ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    At this point, I'd say yes :)

     
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    OPSIE! Someone with DATA, that stings them a bit ;)
     
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    so we should only investigate wrongdoing if Trump is President?

    huh...
     
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    so we should only investigate wrongdoing of people NOT running for President?

    huh...
     
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    If verified facts show that the Bidens did anything wrong with Burisma, sure, investigate it. But don't pull a HRC style investigation, because it will fail.
     
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    Well it surely looks like that's the way the Dems are doing it :) Unless you can show another president that has be raked over the coals as much as he has and emerged victorious and the dem failures and looking like idiots ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    LMAO higher threshold? As in over a BJ?? GTFOH.
     
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    GOPers love to investigate about sex, but not corruption. Y'all are hilarious. How about just stay out of people's sex life.
     
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    History revisionism. Go read about the case.
     
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    Witness intimidation, obstruction of justice among other things....
     
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    Projection at its finest.
     
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    They certainly didn't give a shyt till Biden ran for president. Oopsie? ;)
     
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    Trump did no such thing and none of those are in the articles of impeachment.
     
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    Well, I guess a President with a crackhead son might be a concern now.. Especially after all they knew about those two and Ukraine. Although I can see why the left is so fond of the dynamic duo, drugs, whores and sucking money from a country by extortion, fits right in with the DP and the folks that make up their largest voter block :) ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    With all due respect how do you think people who barely have enough money to run for the senate Retire ten or twenty years later as multi millionaires?
     
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    No, it was his Daddy! Lil Bo just got the perks is all ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     

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