GOP should allow more witnesses!!!

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  1. Thehumankind

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    But why the Bolton-phobia, I don't know why the GOP feared Bolton's testimony that degree.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its cause the Republicans in the Senate are cowards.

    they are afraid of what Bolton and others might say about Trump.
     
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    "Trump is firmly Establishment"... .

    Is that why he has been impeached? ;-)
     
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    A clown show to keep you amused - you have to first understand the Establishment Agenda - and who some of the big players are - only then will you understand that Trump is an Establishment wonk.

    There are competing interests among the big money financiers in Washington - it is not some monolith .. some start chamber or Cabal...

    You are just getting caught up in the circus - and it is distracting you from the main game.
     
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    John Bolton would be a good start.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Senate trial may not have witnesses and Trump may get aquitted soon.

    but we WILL hear from Bolton, dont you worry about it.

    drips and drips of info....through the year. Then one big giant drop right before the election.

    this may actually be worse for Trump. :)
     
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    The only game for Americas corrupt bipartisan political establishment since Trump announced his run has been first rigging the 2016 election and then nullifying the election and removing him from office. Most of the activity associated with this attempted coup d'etat has been carried out by the USG's clandestine spy/secret police agencies and the similar clandestine intelligence activities of foreign governments. Our political establishment has reacted to Trump as if he was a dose of strychnine.

    “Yes, it’s possible President Donald Trump had his phone calls intercepted, stored and searched by U.S. spy agencies during the Obama administration, experts say -- but not necessarily in the way the president claims....

    News organizations have been unable to confirm any judge-approved wiretapping, and there’s a widespread belief Trump sourced his claim using potentially unreliable articles, continuing a habit of making shocking and thinly sourced claims on Twitter.

    Many experts have stated in television interviews that just two methods exist for wiretapping -- a “Title III” criminal warrant or an intelligence court order -- and that since the post-Watergate reforms of the '70s the president has been unable to order taps....

    One potential path is through “incidental” collection in dragnet or targeted surveillance of foreigners, followed by warrantless “backdoor” searches.
    Such “backdoor” searches could affect many Americans, not just Trump.”
    US NEWS, Will Trump's Wiretap Claim Prove True? Perhaps in some sense, former NSA officials and legal experts say., By Steven Nelson, March 7, 2017.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2017-03-07/will-trumps-wiretap-claim-prove-true

    Now we know that criminal electronic surveillance was authorized by the DOJ and the FISA Court and the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS.
     
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    There are several good starts, but I'm in favor of Cruz's idea of one on one. You call Bolton, we call the whistleblower and so on. Like I said, the longer your circus lasts the better
     
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    Schiff or Nadler could have subpoenaed Bolton they chose not to do that.
    They can still subpoena Bolton. Your post reveals exactly why they will never do that. ;-)
     
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    I think most Trump supporters will be delighted if either Nadler or Schiff decide to subpoena Bolton.
    They will not do that even if you beg them. Alas. :)
     
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    You will not hear Bolton unless Graham is mean enough to subpoena him. IOW, not likely. ;-)
     
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    GOP should allow more witnesses!!!

    That is an opinion apparently not shared by the GOP.
     
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    We are on the same page here - with respect to these nasty deeds - Look at Papadopolous .. set up by the CIA .. and other innocent parties who were rounded up - lives rifled through - threats, coercion. The power of the special prosecutor to mess with you - is absolute pretty much. Those that were charged - Tax Fraud - having nothing to with the "supposed" scope of the investigation.. and thus illegitimacy of authority.

    But look at the clown who was appointed SP. "A man of the highest integrity" and so on.
    Meuller is a scum bucket - with a demonstrable track record of scum bucketry... any 5th grader can google this guys nasty past.

    Note that this garnered almost no discussion on the mainstream ... neither left nor right. Meuller was praised to high heavens by the Left Media.. glorious were the platitudes. The right said squat - of significance.

    Remember this - Look not at the hot button issues .. on which different establishment interests disagree. but to where there is agreement . That's where devil hides.

    As a result of Russiagate . censorship has ramped up.. Freedom of information, press, speech is being attacked. by both sides.

    Did I give you the Oliver Stone link ?

    What does Warren agree with? .. punishments for what she considers .. "fake news". Please kick me in the head.

    . https://thehill.com/policy/technology/480505-warren-releases-plan-to-fight-election-disinformation

    That's just Evil.. Warren is fully aware of the Multi Multi Billion dollar propaganda industry .. not only in the US but globally. Edward Bernay's - Propaganda" - is the founder of what he rebranded as "Public Relations". Huge industry... big big money (and I am talking outside of advertizing - both however looking to achieve the same objective .. to shape opinion.

    So Warren knows fully that comparing the Russian FB ads - to the huge influence of other international actors - is like comparing a rain drop to a hurricane.

    She knows that her claim is BS - yet she said it anyway... in an effort to maintain the Establishment agenda - the one they agree on - censorship, further limitations to free speech, information, press.

    These are interesting times .. - the Anti Establishment movement is growing - at some point there will be a designations made this politician is either Establishment - or Anti Establishment. Lizzy is an Establishment Wonk.
     
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    Poor, poor Schiff...

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    Actually a trial is about adjudicating the facts. It's not an investigating body. Also, you should look up "trial by ambush" and why its not allowed.
     
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    If you were on trial and the prosecution miserably failed to present their case, would you ask your attorney to call a bunch of witnesses so that ALL the evidence could be heard? Of course not. The House had the burden to provide the indictment and the Senate has the responsibility to rule on the evidence the House brought forward. If the House failed their burden this badly, then why should the Senate bail them out and do their work for them?
     
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    Yeah the Democrats are totally phony on calling for witnesses. We've already seen their witnesses during the House inquiry. They don't want to expose those guys to cross by Trump's Defense team, nor do they want the whistleblower, Shift, the Bidens and many many more to be called.
     
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    I wish that would happen to place more transparency of the ongoing trial.
     
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    The House could have subpoenaed Bolton, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Brennan et al during their hearings. Pelosi, Schiff and Nadler chose not to do that. They will probably choose not to do it now, but I certainly hope they do.
    You could call the Congressional switchboard and ask them to get their butts in gear.
     
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    That has become very obvious now, and the whole world has watched Trump's opposition leaders expose themselves as crooked, incompetent, blustering fools. Trump has been further empowered.
     
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