Educated vs "Non-Educated"

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Then you now know that the gov. does not own the assets of private hospitals any more then they do any private business. Even an auto repair shop is government regulated for many of its practices, that doesn’t mean they the gov. own or even manage it. That doesn’t give it Gov. ownership. It is not the same as government regulated. You keep saying they are the same thing, like public schools. Nope.
     
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    The remarks of a “ pseudo sociology expert.”
     
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    If you’re a Canadian ? . You practice socialism. You’re a socialist. There is nothing some have written to indicate they know what socialism is. Medicine in Canada AND the United States is SOCIALIZED. They just differ by degree. We have Medicare, Medicaid, Chips and all sorts of other SOCIAL programs.
    The suffix “ism” simply means we practice what it’s root indicates. We practice socialism in the US. Those of us that do, are socialists. Deal with it. It’s laughable how people hate “socialism” but luv their social programs. Hypocrisy abounds.
     
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    “Average people” don’t even take IQ tests anymore. They don’t because they are MEANINGLESS. It’s an attempt to generalize about entire groups of people for literally, the rest of their lives.
    The actual questions are made up under false premises.
     
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    No, the real issue is it still didn't make any sense. How can intelligence not be measured as intellect? If that's the case, is heat no longer measured as hotness? Cold no longer measured as coldness? If intellect is no longer measured as intelligence then what is it measured as?
     
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    Generally speaking, "average people" can't stand the idea that there is someone in the world who might be smarter than they are, so they say IQ tests are meaningless. They don't take IQ tests because they don't have to, everybody knows they are average. People with IQ's in the gifted range are too smart to be able to understand the stupidity of the people around them. They are poorly socialized because they are often rejected by stupid people. Give them a problem to solve, though, and they will solve it.
     
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    It's actually a way of saying the tests measure aptitude in a chemical environment as well as a general IQ test. This is not difficult.
     
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    You need to quote me accurately. You still aren’t doing it.
    The “measurement of intelligence” , is not the same as intelligence. You keep confusing the two. Secondly, “general intellect” is not intellect.
    An IQ test only measures how well you do on that specific test.
    Intellect is specific. .
     
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    Yes it is. We now use aptitude testing which are specific to skills and we know these skills can be improved upon.
     
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    Maybe IQ level is better measured by polling people who fall for IQ testing. (Sarc)
     
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    IQ tests are meaningless. Do the research on them.
     
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    Like those millions of middle class workers who lost their jobs during the Bush recession and lost their employer based healthcare, many of which had preexisting conditions. They weren’t unproductive.
     
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    Collectives are a subsistence model, and only produce enough surplus to fund non-productive members for short periods of time.

    It makes no difference who owns the company or what the company sells .. if they're involved in the selling of products or services and the purchase of labour, they're capitalist. If they can fund non-productive non-members (via taxes, or whatever) indefinitely, they're capitalist.
     
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    No, of course not. Like I said, even those who claim they are (while living like capitalists), are almost always not.
     
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    There is not a limited supply. In some places there is a surplus.

    I'll ask again, why do you think doctors shouldn't earn the quite modest income that they do?
     
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    What are you talking about? Did any of them join collectives in order to improve their lot?
     
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    We live like socialists as much as any other “ists”.
    We, like all other democracies, have combination societies and live our social programs.
    “Collective” btw, is just a word that’s the opposite of “ individualism”. It’s not a form of government or a party. It’s the same bogus label transfer that “libertarians” use cause they’re too embarrassed to be called “republicans”, and what “progressives” call themselves because the right made “liberal” a bad name. It’s word games.
     
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    “Collectives” is just a general term for a “group of people or businesses or entities” that get together for a common purpose. No one doubts they can be more efficient.

    An example, are the towns that get together and rather then have a police department for each, they contract with a county sheriff’s department for less money then each pays on their own. They can do this to save duplication of support services like the dispatcher.

    Schools consolidate to form unions to save tax dollars and hospitals to save office expenditures and share doctors.
    The idea they are limited in value for your “non productive” members, whatever 5hats contrived to mean, is pretty silly. They save and service everyone for less money, even the poor who still pay.

    Its all socialism.
     
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    We are not even remotely 'socialist'. SOME individuals in the West do practice socialism, but our states are most decidedly capitalist .... all the way to the bank.

    We are, in fact, notable for our wholesale rejection of collectivism.
     
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    It's socialism if the collective is dependent upon its own labour and resources, and is not engaged in the purchase of labour and raising of profits.
     
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    What is a collective ? A made up term ? I use real terms that describe real programs. They were able to get Obamacare , which along with Medicaid funding and other social benefits, are all social programs. That’s socialism
     
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    Ha ha....guess what socialism is built upon....collectivism. look up the definitions. The little sidestep can’t hide the FACT, these are all social programs. That’s socialism In Medicaid. Don’t say you don’t have Medicaid. Why don’t you go to your state capital and look for the department of social services and/or Heath and welfare. None has the word “collectivism” . They are SOCIALISM. Every fking state has social services, they don’t have collectivism services.

    Because you pay state taxes, you support these social programs. Like it or not, you support socialism. How many deniers read dictionaries ? Maybe not enough.
     
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    Is that your definition. It certainly isn’t in any dictionary.
     
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    Are you paying into or collecting social security ?
    That’s a social program. The suffix “ ism” just means “the practice of.”
    So, if you’re paying into social security or collecting, you’re practicing socialism. Show me a definition that says otherwise.
     
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    Let’s get our facts straight. Do you or do you not pay taxes for any public service, schools, roads, Medicaid etc...
    If you do, that’s collectivism, which if for a social program, means you practice socialism. . Sorry, facts don’t lie.
     

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