Trump-Netanyahu’s ‘deal of the century’ revealed

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  1. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    I was a soldier and I live in the real world, sometimes enemies kill each other Alexa, I "love" killing.....but I'm attacking you ?
    And what's that about Jews ? I'm supposed to agree and love them all because they are Jews ? I also hate Bibi so what ?
    I said if you watch over genocide and ethnic cleansing - you are looking for the wrong things, the Likud will build now on, not cleanse.
     
  2. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who is "them"?

    You see now, you are the reason why people become anti-Semites and racists. In a single sentence, you have packed Jews and Israel into an entity. It could be that you do not know the difference, but I do.


    G-d forbid I should impress you! To my credit, I wasn't trying. It was you who accused me of "smashing Jewish tombstones". Was it unfair of me to prove you are wrong and really so painful to know that you are wrong?


    I was right, wasn't I? You really don't know the difference.

    I don't know what country you are from but I do wonder what your opinion would be if your town were suddenly to be decreed part of another country.
     
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    So you think Israelis will eventually genocide the Palestinians, Millions of them, OK, this is a yes or no outcome, I'll tell you what O told Alexa, you are watching the wrong place.
     
  4. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your reading comprehension is lacking but your rejection of what I actually wrote was predicted ... and I even said so.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I prefer they abandoned religious tyranny and misery and embrace Israel’s religious freedom and prosperity.
     
  6. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    Tell me the difference between hating 8 Million ppl and 14 Million ppl.


    Ill would read the newspapers and remeber that the Brits are leaving and land is to be divided between TWO new states, then I would make a decision to whom I'd like to join, and if I chose war.....I wouldnt bitch about it....
     
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    The situation between Israel and Palestine will become what still what it is.
     
  8. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Once again ... and I am getting tired of pointing this out ..... Jews and Israel are two different things.



    I see. You'd shoot but not complain. I don't believe you. Even the IRA had Sinn Féin.
     
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    What you call the 'real world; is one of you colonising people and killing them at will and taking their land. Yes that is reality but it is a reality against International Law.
    No idea what you are talking about now but if it is you calling Aaron Matte video a 'hate video' then yes, it does mean you hate peaceful people. As you believe the only reality is Israel's ability to kill at will and take land from others then that may very well be true. I oppose the reality you wish to create. I do not support killing defenseless people and colonising their land leaving them with nothing.

    You do not know what will happen now. Israel is always killing the Palestinians.
     
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    The HATE isn't ! that's point lol, you can't justify dehumanizing 8 Million but not 14 Million. dehumanizing and general hate is wrong no matter who the subject is lol. you are not better than the settlers that hate Arabs you just a mirror image of them that's all.

    I wont call it murder and genocide and whatever your party made it, if I fight I have respect to my efforts and to my brothers in arms. if Syria bombs us after we bomb it we wont call it murder. a bomb in a bus is murder thou, you ppl need to be reminded of that...
     
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    I was a soldier and I never took land, colonized anyone, killed anyone or whatever you say.

    No, you assume I hate those who hate me and that's not true, I don't hate anyone, not really.
    I never said all those things you write you just make those up, reality is for the Palestinians to accept what they can get and work their way toward trade and jobs that make a country and not focus of ****ing up another because that will not secure their future.
    I didn't create reality I simply suggest you stop fighting windmills but its just a suggestion Alexa, I dont really care what you'll do.


    And they always kill Israelis.....to think this is the objective is.....y'know....not real, the deal was known to be rejected, why was it placed on the table to begin with ?
     
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    Who is justifying dehumanization of anyone? You?


    What party are you talking about?


    All you are doing is distributing cliches that have been handed out to you from people with no more understanding than any other dumb-downed soul who takes his queue from cinema dialogue.
     
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    Are you talking about Turkey that took over half of Cyprus ? France who hold part of south America calling it 'french guinea' ? Britain that went to war over islands on the other side of the world ?
    USA that holds Guam ? China that took over Tibet ? or maybe Russia who just took over Crime ?
    All those colonizing countries and more...

    But no, you cry over Jerusalem that the Jews have cried for 2000 years.
    Face it, there are far more Jews in Jerusalem than there are Muslims.
    In fact, even in the census that was made by the Turks in 1905, there were more Jews in Jerusalem than Muslims even then.
    Only Jews had no power to rule what is theirs.
    Now they do and they offer success, freedom and prosperity for all.
     
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    Point me where I did if you think so, I say you do by calling Israelis killers cleansers war mongers etc'.


    The Anti Israel party


    No I actually fought Hizbullah in Lebanon and I never called them MURDERERS when they killed our soldiers, it's war.
     
  15. Thingamabob

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    I am having a discussion with an adolescent and I've seen enough now.
     
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    when you cannot refute his arguments, you start with personal attacks.
     
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    Lowkey talking with Abbey Martin about the conspiracy re Corbyn and the General Election



    Excellent video about the multi national work to make sure Corbyn did not get elected due to his dislike of Imperialism and desire for the Palestinians to be treated like all other human beings and have rights.
     
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    Your comment ignores the right to self determination - and does not change the fact that this is a bad faith deal.
     
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    Are those photos showing Arabs demonstrating with bright colored clothes, Reeboks and
    plump faces just some Jewish conspiracy to portray them as violent people?
    So why did the Arab Israelis REJECT the Trump proposal to be under West Bank
    control last week?
    I hear, all the time, that Arab Israelis enjoy one of the highest standards of living in
    the Middle East. Is this true?
    What Israeli PM offered Gaza full access to Israel, rail link, airport, seaport and industrial
    parks?
     
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    .. and you call his contribution (to our dialogue) sensible arguments, right? :laughing:
     
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    What part of your question do you consider the poignant one?


    What is your basis of debate if you don't even know the answer to this fundamental question?

    You hear this "all the time", huh? You don't get out very much I think.

    What??? You have no idea what the situation is. Do you know nothing about freedom?
     
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    Are you saying that the Palestinian Arabs are not free?
    Fatah and Hamas are particularly undemocratic.
    Especially in Gaza.

    But even in Gaza the people are doing okay. They have
    knocked back some pretty good deals so they are fairly
    confident. Ever seen photos of those amazing tunnels
    they have built? Miles and miles of concrete, electrical
    conduit and such. And all those rockets - they have more
    rockets than our army has in Australia (Hezbollah has
    about 140,000 rockets but I digress.) And the aid that
    the Palestinians get is simply amazing - World Bank in
    2009 said they got 1.8 billion dollars. We don't get that.
    Might go live there myself.
     
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    Your deductive reasoning is amazing, Sherlock! How did you know?

    What is your point? Do you like history? Have you read much about WW II, for example? Some day I will tell you about the Warsaw ghetto uprising - nasty Jews, huh? I assume you feel that after noting your opinion of Fatah and Hamas.

    Just living "the Life of Riley", eh?

    By adapting your style of 'logic' I can confidently say, "Just think of it! All of that they have achieved thanks to the endeavours of Fatah and Hamas!" Long live Mahmoud Abbas and Ismail Haniya!
     
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    It is the deal of the century !
    Only one small tiny problem .. Arabs do NOT want it .. They want it ALL !
     
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    It's amazing really. Israel is a super power in the Middle East, nukes, F35, satellites and all.
    Us Aussies don't have that (well, a few F35's...)
    For Gaza to be such a power as to take on Israel is indicative of their own power. And we
    Aussies have endless elections and new leaders every 18 months or so. Gaza has none of
    those problems. They have the world's media there and get the kids to do all sorts of theatrics
    - we only had them during the bushfires. And they get the UN's attention all the time - poor
    Israel doesn't have a chance - the Arabs even got UNESCO to declare the temple mount to
    be Arabic - that's like us saying Uluru always belonged to the white man. And imagine if no
    black man could climb Uluru because it's sacred to white folks, that's what the Arabs say so
    the religious Jews can't worship on their temple mount (I mean, Arab's temple mount.)
    And those Arabs have knocked back just about every land deal since the British were there.
    I am sure they know what they are doing. The Palestinians were even offered land in the
    Negev but knocked it back, along with a rail link, airport, sea port, open borders and industrial
    parks. I am impressed - we would grab all that with open arms.
     
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