So how to celebrate Brexit?

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  1. gnoib

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    GONE
     
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    The last time I left the EU I was holding my passport.
    Now I've left the EU and I didn't even have to leave my house to do it.
    It's like the whole country's just left the EU.
    Apparently it takes a year to go through immigration, but we've just set foot out of the EU!
     
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    No more riding on the Brussels gravy train for Nigel Farage. He's going to have to pay his own expenses from now on.
     
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    Thankfully we can still blame the EU, it's not like we'd be turning on each other with no scapegoat for our own problems just yet, there's the whole judging the EU based on their negotiations for a free trade deal now and if we buy into it.
     
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    He probably will get a nice pension from the EU, or from the UK, which he represented.
    I always wondered who will pay their pension, the UK or the EU?
     
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    I was thinking he'd get knighted. Sir Nigel Farage
    Probably the EU pay for his MEP pension, since it was the EU who paid him £350.00 to sign in sit in his seat and speak up. The EU'd pay for this MEP like every other MEP pension and it'll no longer use money contributed by the UK to pay it, surely.
     
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    Who cares what the UK thinks from now on, its now about the EU and if the UK wants to have a share of the 500million market, bent a knee and say please.
     
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    500, 000, 000 market maybe, but how many of your 500, 000, 000 citizens live in countries in your market that can afford a German or British luxury car without a line of credit from Germany or the UK?
    It's not just how many people there are to sell to that matters, it's how many of your 500, 000, 000 can afford to buy too.
    The UK isn't going to depend on cheap labour/EU migrants businesses have been told. The UK isn't going to continue to use cheap labour like it has been doing in the EU.
    https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/priti-patel-businesses-cheap-eu-labour-1375848
     
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    Yeah, he gets a pension. That is one of the reasons we have to pay a £39 billion divorce bill.
    We will still have to pay £11 billion while we ''transition'' in order to stay in the customs Union and other EU benefits.
    Then there are the 30,000 civil servants who have to be paid while they negotiate the trade deals.
    Anyone waiting for an extra £350 million for the NHS had better not hold their breath.
     
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    That I guess will probably not happen, because the UK ain't a member anymore. But it is a interesting question and will probably be a side note in the upcoming negotiations.
    By the way the other EMPs are still citizens of the EU, which he aint any more.
    Glad to be rid of the scum bag.
     
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    4 years and you still know nothing.
    We are paying £39 billion towards our obligations to the EU which includes not only our share of the cost of Farage's pension but also all the other MEPs from all the other member states.
     
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    Look at this

    The UK can still rejoin the EU
    It is not as far-fetched an idea as it may sound. In fact, there is already a template for how to do it.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/uk-rejoin-eu-200130175005345.html

    :lol: is this a typical example of someone who can't let go of a ruined relationship.... she's taken off, moved in with the other guy and he's still going... "it's not too late.. she'll come back" :roflol:
     
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    Do we still pay £39bn in the event of no deal?
    People don't think we should pay for a bad deal.
    Sir Iain Duncan Smith says the UK should only pay if we get a deal we want.
     
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    While the best are rather happy to keep their jobs in the EU administration.
     
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    Probably yes, it has to pay, moneys owned, advance payments.
     
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    I don't think it applies to a no deal Brexit.
     
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    It has nothing to do with a no deal. The amount was agreed on, money owned, pre- payments.
    International courts will decide on that, probably, or tariffs could settle that question.
     
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    A reputation for reneging on financial commitments would not be a great way of starting a grueling round of trade negotiations.
     
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    True, but how can the UK pay for a bad deal?
    This money should be conditional the EU doesn't stop the UK from being competitive.
     
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    Forget the deal. The divorce payment has nothing to do with the deal it is for commitments we have made to the EU budget 2013-2020 and for future pension payments.
    We are legally liable for it deal or no deal.
    https://www.channel4.com/news/factc...oid-paying-the-39-billion-brexit-divorce-bill
     
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    Why? Is Brussels going to send a gunboat if we don't pay up?

    They want our trade and we want theirs so some sort of deal will be hammered out. In the meantime, we may not be completely out but we are on our way and that is the only bit that counts.
     
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    No, they will take us to court.
     
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    It's not like we can't afford to pay up, £33bn is a drop in the bucket, as long as MEPs including British ones who served (Farage ect) get their MEP pensions like non British MEPs; even though UK left, these people still served as MEPs so should imo receive any MEP pension like any other MEP.
    But why should the UK pay for a bad deal? So I support people who say this money should be conditional of a deal that doesn't tie the UK to the EU to allow UK to be competitive; even if the UK's on the EU's door step, we can't help where God put us; but I'd prefer a deal that allows our freedom or a no deal, then I'd feel okay in paying; but I won't like paying a divorce bill to be ruled without a voice in a bad deal that doesn't diverge from EU rule, law and order.
     
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    Why are you suddenly worrying about a bad deal? We were told that getting a better deal was easy and would take just days.
    Are you doubting the promises of the leave campaign? It's a bit bloody late now.
     
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    I'm sure we all worry about a bad deal. I voted remain, and became a convert without the help of a leave campaign and a suspect bus.
    A bad deal is always something to be worried about until it doesn't happen.
    We're not out of the woods yet, we should all worry about coming out of our transition with a bad deal, a no deal is better than a bad deal with the EU and I don't even think a Canada style deal would be a good deal because I personally want less alignment with the EU.
    The EU is a difficult customer and even if we have a deal with them, it'll be a waste of time and money because of EU xenophobia about buying non EU products, as witnessed by Canadian cattle herders producing beef for the EU market in CETA at an increased cost only to have the EU fail to buy at sale time going back on their promise and annoying Canada.
    https://www.france24.com/en/america...ith-eu-food-safety-agriculture-meat-exports-2
     
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