As a non-partisan, I saw the SOTU address as a declaration of war...

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  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Republicans only pretend to care about spending when a D is in the big chair. I guess it's sort of better than the democrats, who never even pretend to care about spending.
     
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    A bill can not become law until the president signs it. Once signed, he owns it, and the deficits that go with them. Republicans controlled the house and senate for 2 of trumps 3 budgets. And republicans control the senate and white house for this latest budget. Republicans are ENTIRELY to blame for the deficit.
     
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    The SOTU was really good but he needs to say a little more about the evironment.
    It was like "and for the environment we are planting a trillion trees....NEXT"
     
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    The way to recover is to clean out the career political class and replace them with honest americand with integrity who put the people and country over party.

    Then bring back FCC regulations Clinton crushed that required any both sides be voiced instead of only one side. Partisan media outlets have helped to create this venom and division filled with hatred. There was a reason our wise leaders regulated information services They had enough sense to see the need. Give Americans both sides of the argument from the same news outlet and make people use their brains instead of what they should think be it fox or MSNBC

    Deregs in various sectors has been a disaster whether the media or the financial sector . From the time fdr regulated the financial sector to deregs we never had a financial led crash. Intelligence would have went back to the regulated financial sector. But ideology trumped intelligence and pragmatism .
     
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    Sorry I wasn't one of them. I do however remember Obama talking about raising taxes to balance and he did but never came close to balancing. Sorry but raising taxes will never balance the budget as long as you will not vote for and are not interested in reducing the size of government.
     
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    So, four more years of Trump Sr.
     
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    A distinction without a difference. You support these politicians.

    Lol...you don't know your own history it seems. Perhaps you should read about conservatives in France, how they sat to the right in the Chambers and how their primary concern was supporting businesses (as that was who owned them) over that of anything else. Conservatives support the military-industrial complex too. This is known as crony-capitalism and it is the tool that socialist in the Democratic party is using to leverage against you. Trump is the poster boy for crony-capitalism. Both parties are authoritarian, and yes that includes the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Donald Trump.
     
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    Politicians always prefer more spending. It is the basis of their power and it isn't their money. Other conservatives, on the other hand, want less spending and smaller government.
     
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    We will have four more years of Trump Sr.
     
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    You are non-partisan but you dont blame people for hating Rush Limbaugh? As a non- partison was their anything positive in that speech worth remembering?
     
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    The last quality person in Congress was Ron Paul. He's the only politician in my history that actually cared about liberty for the people. His was a very lonely voice. Our politicians despise the idea that people might want to make their own decisions.
     
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    Speaking the truth!
     
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    That's funny. I don't support politicians at all, not a single one. I consider them the dregs of society.

    Politicians, like most people support their personal interest. The problem is that their personal interests affects others in a big way. We have no authoritarianism in the U.S. What we have is greedy political climate.
     
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    I agree.

    I seldom see this kind of honesty in these threads. It's refreshing- thank you!
     
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    So, you'd be fine cutting the military budget by 90%?
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The climate is completely supported by the citizens. Congress gets re-elected at a 90%+ rate. Every two years, we can completely turnover the house and 1/3 of the senate. If the people got united and did that, party would be irrelevant for a time, while the new Congress scrambled to figure out what people want. We could have actual conversations. There are so many issues that need not be partisan, but are. This is how politicians keep us divided.

    If your boss told you "great job!" why would you change how you do your job? It's up to the people to fix this. Politicians have no need.
     
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    The House creates and passes the budget. The House is controlled by Democrats. What's wrong with them?
     
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    Thank you, too! There are very few non-partisan voices in this forum. Reading, "My team is always right and your team is always wrong," gets pretty boring, so I don't participate in many threads.
     
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    Thats fair. Though I would say Trump was elected to wage political war against global progressivism. And I think 2020 is going reinforce his mandate.
     
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    Rush has stood up for traditional American values and against radical leftist politics for 30+ years. It's a shame you can't appreciate that.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Meh - values change. Women weren't allowed to have their own bank account until the mid 70's. Democrats got that changed. No party has exclusivity on good or bad. Both parties can proclaim that they have really smart people, really dumb people and everything in between.
     
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    OFHEO was formed under HUD. Clinton / Cuomo failed to fund it. In 1997, Republicans sponsored a GAO study and found the regulator to be a disaster,,,no minimum capital requirements, nothing. Richard Baker (R-LA) ran the Capital Markets Subcommittee and tried to install an independent regulator. Maxine Waters was among the objectors. Schumer spoke in opposition of regulating Fannie and Freddie on the Senate side.

    GAO STUDY OF HUD'S ROLE AS A
    MISSION REGULATOR OF FANNIE
    MAE AND FREDDIE MAC

    THURSDAY, JULY 30, 1998
    U.S. House of Representatives,
    Subcommittee on Capital Markets, Securities and
    Government Sponsored Enterprises,
    Committee on Banking and Financial Services,
    Washington, DC.

    The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 2:00 p.m., in room 2128, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Richard H. Baker, [chairman of the subcommittee], presiding.

    Present: Chairman Baker; Representatives Lazio, Sessions, Snowbarger, Vento, Bentsen, Kilpatrick, and J. Maloney of Connecticut.

    Chairman BAKER. I would like to call our meeting of the Capital Markets Subcommittee to order and to welcome our witnesses. Given the events of the day, I want to first express my appreciation to each of you for the late and inconvenient notice of our change in time for the hearing. Given the circumstances though, we felt it most appropriate not to conduct our proceedings, given the day's events. I do express my appreciation to you.

    In 1992, the Congress through legislation gave the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development the responsibility of mission regulation for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The intent of Congress was to make certain that targeted housing needs are being met by these Government sponsored enterprises. Last year, the committee asked the General Accounting Office to perform the first comprehensive audit of HUD's role as mission regulator of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
    Page 2 PREV PAGE TOP OF DOC

    Today we will hear testimony from representatives of the GAO and HUD on the results of this audit. I must report, unfortunately, after reviewing the audit, that I am not comforted by GAO findings nor do I believe HUD has fulfilled its principal regulatory obligation. In addition, we will hear testimony from the Acting Director of the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight. It should be remembered that last October, the subcommittee received testimony from the GAO on an audit of OFHEO's work as a safety and soundness regulator of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, a responsibility which was also created by the act of Congress in 1992.



    In the middle of concerns about the Fannie / Freddie regulator, Cuomo does this ----->>>

    *CUOMO ANNOUNCES ACTION TO PROVIDE $2.4 TRILLION IN MORTGAGES FOR
    AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR 28.1 MILLION FAMILIES*

    WASHINGTON - Housing and Urban Development Secretary Andrew Cuomo today
    announced a policy to require the nation's two largest housing finance
    companies to buy $2.4 trillion in mortgages over the next 10 years to
    provide affordable housing for about 28.1 million low- and
    moderate-income families.
    http://archives.hud.gov/news/1999/pr99-131.html


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    Minimum wage has everything to do with low income employment. The only time raising the minimum wage didn't crush the economy was in the late 1990's, during the Dot-Com bubble. You saw what happened when Pelosi and Reid held Katrina Victims and Veterans hostage for a 40% increase. The law raised the minimum wage on July 24, 2007, July 24, 2008, and July 24, 2009. That time frame ring a bell?

    Protecting Cuomo as Democrats do to shelter their own allowed a guy who couldn't run a lemonade stand to rise to the level of Governor.
     
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    Wow...Romney is voting for impeachment.
     
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    I agree that taxes need to be raised, and spending needs to be cut.
     

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