Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Your quote looks doctored or partial. Dishonesty. Where did you get it?

    You say we are social then anti-social. Which is it?

    We are the most insecure animal on the planet and that forces us to be social.

    We cooperate to make friends instead of enemies. I can give you that we might have fair play as a part of some cooperations, but we use it to get ahead of others and want instinctively to be the fittest. We are then competing against some other cooperating guy or gal.

    Competition is not always one level.
    If you want to join a rowing team for instance, you will cooperate with fair play to get into the test canoe, but once there, fair play goes out the window as you try to outdo/compete with the other rowers so that it is you who makes the roster and not the less fit.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    How come you and your Zionist pals falsify the facts?

    Gerhart Riegner, the youthful secretary of the World Jewish Congress, it ran into this wall of institutional disbelief: Riegner claimed that Hitler's headquarters was planning to deport up to four million Jews from Nazi-occupied countries to the east during the coming autumn, where they were to be exterminated 'in order to resolve, once and for all, the Jewish question in Europe.'

    [Zionist Jews admit Hitlers "plan" was to deport, NOT murder, (in order to exterminate was the writers opinion)]


    To exterminate: something was to banish it or drive it away. And it is this meaning that can be found in the Latin origin of "exterminate." "Exterminate" comes from "exterminatus," the past participle of exterminare, meaning "to drive beyond the boundaries." The Latin word exterminare was formed from the prefix ex- ("out of" or "outside") and "terminus" ("boundary").

    Not much more than a century after its introduction to English, "exterminate" came to denote destroying or utterly putting an end to something. And that's the use with which the word is usually employed today.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exterminate

    And for the board illiterates:

    deport

    1 [Latin deportare]
    a : to send out of the country by legal deportation

    b : to carry away


    Its crystal clear that the use of the word exterminate in Germany to mean killing all the Jews was a total fabricated lie, why do you support this?

    Why do you and your Zionist pals advocate deceitful word games and use such deceitful word games to falsify actual accounts of history?

    Oh wait word context fvckery is SOP around forums, but then they had excellent teachers, Zionist Jews.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    You want to pretend to be a holocaust litigation attorney and condemn me as an antisemite for critical thinking eh,

    So use your brilliant deductive skills to explain to us how you and your Zionist pals came to the conclusion that Hitler would 'exterminate' (as in gas/murder) Jews after they were deported outside the German occupied territory?

    Hell you cant even cite anything what so ever that references any civilians you claimed Hitler killed.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Uh, who is being dishonest? "Eh, no. A scientific statement from research with babies that has shown itself to be true. google, --- Babies know good and evil,--- and have fun learning about love and hate. I have a link somewhere if you nee it but you likely trust your own sources." The full quote and now you deny writing babies have fun learning about hate?
    I tried to keep my statement about moral behavior as simple as possible so you could understand it but still it was misunderstood, perhaps purposely because you have already been shown to be dishonest.
    You seem to be confusing competition with unfair play. Not the same thing, Competition can be fair and unfair play is never fair.
    So here we go again. People that act antisocially (not playing fair) are destructive to the group which decreases the groups success which in turn in the short term or the long term will reduce the antisocial persons genetic footprint therefore the bad behavior ultimately works against the "selfish gene".
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    When a lie is exposed you change the subject. You need psychiatric attention.
    BTW Nagasaki and Hiroshima were acts of genocide.
    Did that cause me to hate the US? No
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Not now, so don't intentionally irritate as I tend to reciprocate.

    I disagree. Bite me, and go away.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    You know psychopaths have little to no response to mass murder.
    Yes it was, same MO for Japan as for Germany.
    I know its hard for many people to accept that their kleptocracies arent the honest abe that instead spin lies contrary to what you all have been taught as children they were taught as children. I dont change the subjec, no need, I have both ansers and data to prove said answers. Ok, well give me your diagnosis doctor edna, I have 2 fishing buddies both are shrink, I will run whatever it is you think needs attention and report back, it should be a great laugh!
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Sure, Hitler and the Nazis might have been racists but they were far less racist than FDR and most Americans were at that time.

    For instance, Marian Anderson was welcomed to sign in Nazi Germany but she got kicked in the teeth when she tried to sign in Washington D.C.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/vieilles_annonces/4914460604/in/album-72157624428147638/
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/vieilles_annonces/5513325221/in/album-72157624428147638/
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Thats the claim and it all comes back to bite em in the ass when they find out Hitler had over 150,000 Jews in his military!

    They were all ranks lowest to highest levels, admirals, generals etc!


    You should also be aware of a nasty game that Jews like to play. Keep in mind that Jew is considered a 'race' a 'religion' and a 'political body', and of course they use this to scream racist even for political criticism, think about that.

    I dont pay too much attention to certain people whining and crying that contribute nothing but criticism to these threads. Had you not posted what you did I could give a **** less what yarmeat and and posters who contribute zero whine about, but for the sake of other, this is only a few excerpts of a long list of shocking proven facts:


    Conclusions

    We have demonstrated with documentary evidence a number of critical associations
    between Wall Street international bankers and the rise of Hitler and Naziism in Germany.
    First: that Wall Street financed the German cartels in the mid-1920s which in turn
    proceeded to bring Hitler to power.

    Second: that the financing for Hitler and his S.S. street thugs came in part from affiliates or subsidiaries of U.S. firms, including Henry Ford in 1922, payments by I.G. Farben and
    General Electric in 1933, followed by the Standard Oil of New Jersey and I.T.T. subsidiary payments to Heinrich Himmler up to 1944.

    Third: that U.S. multi-nationals under the control of Wall Street profited handsomely from
    Hitler's military construction program in the 1930s and at least until 1942.
    Fourth: that these same international bankers used political influence in the U.S. to cover up their wartime collaboration and to do this infiltrated the U.S. Control Commission for
    Germany.

    Our evidence for these four major assertions can be summarized as follows:

    In Chapter One we presented evidence that the Dawes and Young Plans for German
    reparations were formulated by Wall Streeters, temporarily wearing the hats of statesmen, and these loans generated a rain of profits for these international bankers. Owen Young of General Electric, Hjalmar Schacht, A. Voegler, and others intimately connected with Hitler's accession to power had earlier been the negotiators for the U.S. and German sides, respectively.

    Three Wall Street houses — Dillon, Read; Harris, Forbes; and, National City Company — handled three-quarters of the reparations loans used to create the German cartel system, including the dominant I.G. Farben and Vereinigte Stahlwerke, which together produced 95 percent of the explosives for the Nazi side in World War II.

    The provable threads of Hitler financing are drawn together in Chapter Seven and answer with precise names and figures the question, who financed Adolf Hitler? This chapter indicts Wall Street and, incidentally, no one else of consequence in the United States except the Ford family. The Ford family is not normally associated with Wall Street but is certainly a part of the "power elite."

    In earlier chapters we cited several Roosevelt associates, including Teagle of Standard Oil, the Warburg family, and Gerard Swope. In Chapter Eight the role of Putzi Hanfstaengl, another Roosevelt friend and a participant in the Reichstag fire, is traced.

    The composition of the Nazi inner circle during World War II, and the financial contributions of Standard Oil

    An examination of the role of Standard Oil of New Jersey (which was and is controlled by
    the Rockefeller interests) was undertaken in Chapter Four. Standard Oil apparently did not finance Hitler's accession to power in 1933 (that part of the "myth of Sidney Warburg" is not proven).

    On the other hand, payments were made up to 1944 by Standard Oil of New Jersey, to develop synthetic gasoline for war purposes on behalf of the Nazis and, through its wholly owned subsidiary, to Heinrich Himmler's S.S. Circle of Friends for political purposes. Standard Oil's role was technical aid to Nazi development of synthetic rubber and gasoline through a U.S. research company under the management control of Standard Oil.

    The Ethyl Gasoline Company, jointly owned by Standard Oil of New Jersey and General
    Motors, was instrumental in supplying vital ethyl lead to Nazi Germany — over the written protests of the U.S. War Department — with the clear knowledge that the ethyl lead was for Nazi military purposes.

    The provable threads of Hitler financing are drawn together in Chapter Seven and answer with precise names and figures the question, who financed Adolf Hitler?

    This chapter indicts Wall Street and, incidentally, no one else of consequence in the United States except the Ford family. The Ford family is not normally associated with Wall Street but is certainly a part of the "power elite."

    In Chapter Eight the role of Putzi Hanfstaengl, another Roosevelt friend and a participant in the Reichstag fire, is traced. The composition of the Nazi inner circle during World War II, and the financial contributions of Standard Oil of New Jersey and I.T.T. subsidiaries, are traced in Chapter Nine. Documentary proof of these monetary contributions is presented. Kurt yon Schrader is identified as the key intermediary in this S.S. "slush fund."

    Looking at the broad array of facts presented in the three volumes of the Wall Street series, we find persistent recurrence of the same names: Owen Young, Gerard Swope, Hjalmar Schacht, Bernard Baruch, etc.; the same international banks: J.P. Morgan, Guaranty Trust,

    Chase Bank; and the same location in New York: usually 120 Broadway.

    This group of international bankers backed the Bolshevik Revolution and subsequently
    profited from the establishment of a Soviet Russia.

    This group backed Roosevelt and profited from New Deal socialism.

    This group also backed Hitler and certainly profited from German armament in the 1930s. When Big Business should have been running its business operations at Ford Motor, Standard of New Jersey, and so on, we find it actively and deeply involved in political upheavals, war, and revolutions in three major countries.

    Two men were then backed as leaders for major Western countries: Franklin D. Roosevelt in the United States and Adolf Hitler in Germany. The Roosevelt New Deal and Hitler's Four Year Plan had great similarities. The Roosevelt and Hitler plans were plans for fascist takeovers of their respective countries. While Roosevelt's NRA failed, due to then-operating constitutional constraints, Hitler's Plan succeeded.

    So let us ask the question again: Is there an unelected power elite behind the U.S.
    Government?

    A substantive and often-cited source of information is Carroll Quigley, Professor of
    International Relations at Georgetown University, who in 1966 had published a
    monumental modern history entitled Tragedy and Hope.1 Quigley's book is apart from
    others in this revisionist vein, by virtue of the fact that it was based on a two-year study of the internal documents of one of the power centers. Quigley traces the history of the power elite:

    ... the powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing
    less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to
    dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as
    a whole.


    Quigley also demonstrates that the Council on Foreign Relations, the National Planning
    Association, and other groups are "semi-secret" policy-making bodies under the control of this power elite.

    https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf...Rd1eiMuTbhnkA8DOkybYw2j0yFwsgKi86SXVvl9nfLdWw



     
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    Sorry for the delay. Life is not all fun and forums, sadly.

    There was a time when I mastered French as well as my mother tongue. I used to read French literature, even poetry, in the original French. I used to think in French sometimes, too. I had to switch to English with the advent of the internet to be able to enjoy the best it has to offer.

    The little I know about the origins of Christianity and the Gnosis comes mostly from a book written by a French researcher, by the way - Ory Georges - which sparked my interest for the subject.
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Religious history is interesting when one is interested in seeing tribal man at his worst.

    I hate to think of how stupid and gullible so many are.

    It impossible to know how many of the religious in the supernatural religions are fools and how many just stay in them because of social and tribal issues.

    These days, in the West, religions are doing more damage than good as they are slowing our social progress.

    Oh well. Got to love the satanic genocidal gods. That is all they have.

    Stupid is as stupid does.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Religion of course is something every person on the planet has. No one can govern their actions using science alone, well except for commander data on start trek maybe lol.

    The question that always remains: what 'ism' best fits to identify and flesh out the core constructs of their religion?
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    I agree with your first, in the sense that we all have an ideology and some of those are more philosophy than theology.

    We all chose our isms for sure, but when we force our kids to follow our parental ways, we do damage to their thinking.

    All one needs do is look at the supernatural based religions that call even genocidal gods good.

    That is a moral and mental deficiency that we should all be ashamed of doing, if we belong to a supernatural instead of natural religion.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Nazi Germany removed citizenship from anyone who wasn't part of the "great race." "Inferior" races were put in prison camps or death camps. Our own prison camps for the Japanese are a shameful stain on our nation's history, but it is nothing compared to Nazi Germany. To say that FDR was more racist than Hitler or that most Americans were more racist than the Nazis is just historical ignorance.
     
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    We as in the US had the death camps not germany.

    'Eisenhower's Death Camps':
    A U.S. Prison Guard Remembers


    The men I guarded had no shelter and no blankets. Many had no coats. They slept in the mud, wet and cold, with inadequate slit trenches for excrement. It was a cold, wet spring, and their misery from exposure alone was evident.

    Even more shocking was to see the prisoners throwing grass and weeds into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this to help ease their hunger pains. Quickly they grew emaciated. Dysentery raged, and soon they were sleeping in their own excrement, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches. Many were begging for food, sickening and dying before our eyes. We had ample food and supplies, but did nothing to help them, including no medical assistance.

    Outraged, I protested to my officers and was met with hostility or bland indifference.

    Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too said they were under strict orders to severely ration the prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up." But he said they had more food than they knew what to do with, and would sneak me some. When I threw this food over the barbed wire to the prisoners, I was caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense," and one officer angrily threatened to shoot me. I assumed this was a bluff until I encountered a captain on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?," he mumbled, "Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty.

    This is when I realized I was dealing with cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered the Germans subhuman and worthy of extermination; another expression of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper, Stars and Stripes, played up the German concentration camps, complete with photos of emaciated bodies.

    These prisoners, I found out, were mostly farmers and workingmen, as simple and ignorant as many of our own troops. https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v10/v10p161_Brech.html

    Now thats a real 'death' camp
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Re:

    Please note that in addition to 150,000 Jews in Hitler's military, there were about 2 million non Germans who volunteered to fight Hitler's war on Communism:

    "Adolf Hitler’s Armed Forces: A Triumph for Diversity?"
    https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/1/3/3102

    EXCERPTS " I ask those historians who still believe that Hitler and the Nazis were “white supremacists”: how do you account for the incredible degree of non-German and ethnic minority (i.e., 150,000 Jews and Jewish Mischlinge) collaboration during World War II? Again, some two million non-Germans helped the Nazis.

    The important thing to realize is that had the Nazis been as racist as most historians have argued, then they could not possibly have garnered the immeasurable level of support that they did. Even after Stalingrad; Spaniards, Slavs, Franks, and tens of- thousands of other non-Germans continued to fight for the Nazis on a volunteer basis. Frenchmen and Arab volunteers gave their lives in the final fight for the capital of Berlin in 1945."CONTINUED

    After learning that 150,000 Jews fought in Hitler's military, I was not especially surprised to find that there were also Jewish members of the Nazi party:

    "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

    EXCERPT "Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of partial Jewish descent."CONTINUED

    Of course, we shouldn't expect to see any of these inconvenient facts anywhere in MSM.
     
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    One day try actually reading their party platform. They denied citizenship to anyone who didn't fit their definition of racial purity. Their entire ideology was centered on their ideas of race. They literally believed the Arian race was superior. Just because historical facts hurt the feelings of historically illiterate Nazi apologists doesn't make them any less facts.
     
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    That low down no good dirty bastard!
    Party platform?
    Yeh good thing nothing like that 'ever' happened in america heh?


    Time honored founders of the constitution and congress of the united states:

    Naturalization Act of 1790

    The first statute in the United States to codify naturalization law. Alternately known as the Nationality Act, the Naturalization Act of 1790 restricted citizenship to "any alien, being a free white person" who had been in the U.S. for two years.

    In effect, it left out indentured servants, slaves, and most women. This implied that black and, later, Asian immigrants were not eligible to be naturalized
    http://encyclopedia.densho.org/Naturalization_Act_of_1790/


    Oh wait were the good guys so it dont count for us, only hitler because hes a bad guy.
    The ignorance or blinders you people wear which ever is the case never ceases to amaze me!
    If you want someone to read something post an excerpt and a link, if you think people are going to chase every rabbit hole you throw out here good luck with that.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Lets look at the atrocious disease riddled housing conditions that the evil monster adolf hitler forced the jewish prisoners under his charge to live in and compare that to our good guy, the American war hero J-W Eisenhauer!

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    OMG! Poor Jews, just look at those disturbing housing conditions at Auschwitz!

    Just look at that!

    Its amazing there were any survivors at all under those conditions!

    What? Eisenhower was a J-W????!!!!

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    Now lets look at eisenhowers luxury suites for the Germans:


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    Just look how those damn nazis treated the Jews compared to the way the Jew treated the German civilians farmers and soldiers alike.

    Eisenhower housed these unappreciative germans in luxury suitres with room service and only a million died.


    Here is the Red Cross report about the conditions in a Rhine meadow camp:

    The prisoners were on an empty field like animals. There was no housing at all. During the first weeks there was no housing for the wounded either. The whole sector had been a wheat field which had been destroyed by the prisoners. They were in the mud up to the calves. With tins they digged holes into the ground. These were pits for living. There were no rain flies, no blankets. And there was rain every day. The holes had the disadvantage that they converted into bathtubs when the rain started. In these cases the whole camp was marching with it's wet clothes in long queues for hours in the camp. The conditions were catastrophic. There was nothing for the prisoners. No water tube, no toilet, not one single little roof but only barbed wire in several rows. The inmates of the "Rhine meadow camps" where also the camp of Bad Kreuznach / Bretzenheim was one of them was hitting the capitulation with full strength.

    Illnesses on the mud ground: pneumonia, edema, dysentery, typhus, sephritis, rheumatism, sciatica, bad legs, heart and circulation troubles

    <Health of the newcomers was according to the conditions. Only during the weeks the lack of food, water and housing was very remarkable. The undernourishment and the nights without housing (rain fly and no blankets, bad clothes) on the clay ground were provoking heavy damages of health with pneumonia, edema, dysentery, sephritis, rheumatism, sciatica, bad legs, and with heart and circulation troubles causing a high death rate. Also missing of any sanitarian and hygienic facilities (there was no protection from any infections) was supporting the loss of any health in masses.>

    Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross about German prisoners of war in the Rhine meadow camps 03

    "There was only mud. There was no dry place, there was only mud, and during the night one was going on walking around but sometimes sleep was coming and then I closed my coat and one could form trousers with this coat and then I was sinking into the mud and I hoped that I could sleep some hours without frostbite of my feet." (18min. 49sec.-19min. 15sec.)

    Torture of Germans in Rhine meadow camps in 1945



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    Im so proud to be an altruistic good guy american! We protect the world from evils! Yes we do. You got an evil dictator we will save you! With permission from our zionist pals of course.

    Then we reward war criminals by electing them for president!

    Hows that evil nazi bullshit working for ya yardmeat?
    :lol:
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    It pays to remember that the Zionist plan was to get all of the European Jews to move to Palestine and to steal the land from the Palestinians. They want the German Jews to be the ones at the top of the heap. Their plan was to get the lower class Jews to go first and to build it up so that the rich ones would arrive in comfortable surroundings. In order to make the plan work they needed a nasty enemy to get people to leave their homes in Europe so they helped to create the Nazis.

    They followed Herzl's plan from his The Jewish State book to the letter and it worked. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/quot-the-jewish-state-quot-theodor-herzl

    It is not a secret but most people remain willfully ignorant. The Talmud and the Bible both boast about how everyone will become slaves to the Jews. And even if people don't believe that, the Zionists do and they are working to make it happen. That is reality.
     
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    Some good stuff from an insider:

    The Truth will stand on its own merit

    A Jewish Defector Warns America:

    Benjamin Freedman Speaks by Benjamin H. Freedman

    Introductory Note -- Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20th century.

    Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States.

    Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times. This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential message to us -- his warning to the West -- is more urgent than ever before. -- K.A.S. ---

    Four out of five human beings on the face of the earth will be our enemies at war with us. And not alone are they four out of five human beings now on the face of this earth, but they are the non-Christian population of the world and they are the non-Caucasians... the non-white nations of the world, and that's what we face. And what is the reason? The reason is that here in the United States, the Zionists and their co-religionists have complete control of our government. For many reasons too many and too complex to go into here at this -- time I'll be glad to answer questions, however, to support that statement -- the Zionists and their co-religionists rule this United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country.

    Now, you say, 'well, that's a very broad statement to make', but let me show what happened while you were -- I don't want to wear that out --- let me show what happened while WE were all asleep. I'm including myself with you. We were all asleep. What happened?

    World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. Nineteen-hundred and fourteen was the year in which World War One broke out. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey. What happened?

    Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean, and Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, stood there with one week's food supply facing her -- and after that, starvation.

    At that time, the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. They were picking up their toys and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed.

    Now Germany -- not a shot had been fired on the German soil. Not an enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: "Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started." Well, England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that. Seriously! They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated. While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and -- I am going to be brief because this is a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make if anyone here is curious, or doesn't believe what I'm saying is at all possible -- the Zionists in London went to the British war cabinet and they said: "Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally." The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They [Zionists] told England: "We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war."

    In other words, they made this deal: "We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay us is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey."

    Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely absurd that Great Britain -- that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine -- should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war.

    However, they made that promise, in October of 1916. October, nineteen hundred and sixteen. And shortly after that -- I don't know how many here remember it -- the United States, which was almost totally pro-German -- totally pro-German -- because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews, and they were pro-German because their people, in the majority of cases came from Germany, and they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar.

    The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. So the German bankers -- the German-Jews -- Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: "As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!" But they poured money into Germany, they fought with Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime.

    Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, they went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like the traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. And they were no good.

    Well, shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany. The Zionists in London sent these cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis: "Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work, and you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war." And that did happen. That's how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room.

    Now the war -- World War One -- in which the United States participated had absolutely no reason to be our war. We went in there -- we were railroaded into it -- if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into -- that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. Now, that is something that the people in the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War One. Now, what happened? After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: "Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war." Because they didn't know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, and it was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration. The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. And I don't think I could make it more emphatic than that.

    Now, that is where all the trouble started. The United States went in the war. The United States crushed Germany. We went in there, and it's history. You know what happened. Now, when the war was ended, and the Germans went to Paris, to the Paris Peace Conference in 1919, there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know. Now what happened? The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all these nations that claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, the Jews said, "How about Palestine for us?" And they produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour Declaration. So the Germans, for the first time realized, "Oh, that was the game! That's why the United States came into the war." And the Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered this terrific reparation that was slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and they were determined to get it at any cost.

    Now, that brings us to another very interesting point. When the Germans realized this, they naturally resented it. Up to that time, the Jews had never been better off in any country in the world than they had been in Germany.

    You had Mr. Rathenau there, who was maybe 100 times as important in industry and finance as is Bernard Baruch in this country. You had Mr. Balin, who owned the two big steamship lines, the North German Lloyd's and the Hamburg-American Lines. You had Mr.
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    One thing that is important to note, check out and compare the Germans version of a negotiated peace, to the zionist Jews version in round 2.
     
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    Did Shakespeare hate Jews , judging from what he wrote ?

    Also , are jews hated because they are stingy judging from what Shakespeare wrote ?

    I don't know , I am from India so my knowledge about this is very limited.
     
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    According to the 'stab in the back' theory popular in Germany after defeat in ww1 , German morale collapsed because liberals gave speeches saying that Germany was on point of defeat and many of those liberals were jews .
     
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    The Jews tried to turn Germany into a commie country like they had done to Russia. Look how that turned out for the world.
     
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    Ooo boy, let's see if this site will let Judaism get criticized...

    I believe when asked if Jesus was a Jew, he said he wasn't of the Earth.

    The Jews claimed Jesus' death with pride, this is no secret and not much to debate at all.

    Christianity necessitates a rebirth away from Judaism. Jews mostly follow the Talmud over the Bible anyway.

    Let's keep it simple. Our Jewish pals have been kicked out of 109 countries in history. Are you going to say that's all a coincidence..
     

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