CNN Poll: 76% Had Positive Reaction to SOTU Speech

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  1. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Sort of like how Trump has changed the meaning of the word "Presidency" to just another word totally UNWORTHY of Respect?

    Got it.:salute:
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they are not from everywhere, where they do discriminate should not get government funds
     
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    They are not barred from the process entirely but in some areas of the nation adoption providers are virtually all religious organizations — sometimes the same organization with numerous locations. They can and do prevent gay couples from adopting. Many others will not even place a child if the parents cannot prove they are a certain religion.

    With the number of children we have in the system nationwide the only qualification should be is this a loving and safe home.

    Numerous articles have already been posted — in this very thread — showing that they can and do bar gay couples.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah, Obama had already beat him to that change.
     
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    I see.... Well, in rare moments of idle curiosity, I have wondered which one of them was the "inserter", and which one was the "insertee".

    So, Petey is the "wife" in this scenario...? Well, hell... he is pretty cute, after all....

    [​IMG]. "If little Peteski is elected, I may need to meat him...." :popcorn:
     
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  6. Paul7

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    Behavior that George Washington had a soldier executed for, just sayin'.
     
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    Yes they can.

    Gay rights do not replace religious rights.

    The government forcing someone to participate in something against their religious beliefs is no different than the government forcing gay people to marry the opposite sex.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Religious organizations aren't given taxpayer funds is the answer, of course.
     
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    You still have yet to actually provide any kind of evidence that the 3000 adoption providers are virtually all religious organizations.....even in some states.
     
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    The gay activists would rather put the kids on the streets than allow them to be cared for in religious institutions.

    I've pointed this out numerous times to him, and the facts just bounce off him.
     
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    Except they are, but thanks for playing?
     
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    Which is just outright lies — but that is an area you seem to excel.
     
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    We need to buy stock in Forest Laboratories Inc, I can see a large increase in escitalopram sales! There is just some times that Cannabis just isn't gonna be strong enough ;) ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    I understand you're frustrated when you're losing this badly.

    So you're suggesting gay activists wouldn't rather put the kids on the street.

    I mean where would we get that idea?

    It's not like activists keep targeting the same baker when he wouldn't decorate a gay wedding cake or anything.

    Bold strategy Cotton. Let's go to the instant replay.

    https://www.frc.org/op-eds/aclu-forcing-faith-out-of-adoption

    https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-r...option-agencies-are-too-valuable-to-shut-down

    https://apnews.com/1835ae287faa490fa171d4814fb77d7c

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2019/11/06/opinion/leave-adoption-out-culture-wars/

    https://www.npr.org/2017/02/28/517092031/in-religious-freedom-debate-2-american-values-clash
     
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    No, they're not.

    Money is allocated to keep the children fed and clothed. That money goes to them, not the agency.

    The agency does not use government funds to operate facilities, staff, or anything else.
     
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    Oh, dear... me and my atrocious, error-prone keystroking. Of COURSE I meant to type, "meet him".... My bad.... :pc:
     
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    That's right, ever since CA turned blue and became the littering grounds for illegals.
     
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    You have even posted a source showing this isn’t the only case.
    Try again
     
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    You have presented nothing to illustrate this besides repeating it over and over.

    Bigotry?

    Children are not baked goods

    If these religious charities that receive federal and state funds and that control who is able to receive child care funds are so biased that they cannot do what is best for the children then they should either a) be replaced with secular organizations or b) self fund.

    No one wants children to be put on the street — they just don’t want religious organizations deciding the only option is their facilities or a family that will indoctrinate their specific brand of cult worship.
     
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    Except I didn't do that.

    The children and the people adopting them receive the benefits, regardless of who cares for them.

    Good luck shutting down more people trying to take care of kids.
     
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    Sure.

    Other than the links in the post you replied to, you mean.

    If they exercise their freedom of religion and don't load gay people up with a half dozen kids each, the centers should be shut down and the kids should just be put on the streets.
     
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    Nope. Ever since Republicans started giving the country either inept candidates (Bush) or poster boys for the Seven Deadly Sins (Trump).
     
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    Except you did...
    But deny away, whatever — shouldn’t expect any less.

    Correct, and some of the agencies themselves are publicly funded. Furthermore a religious institution should not be allowed to approve who can receive federal and state subsidies.
     
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    No one besides you has said that.
    Projection much? If gay people can adopt children would be better on the street? That seems like outright hate and bigotry.
     
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    Ah - so, those who looked at the polls and thought Hillary would win were not aware of the fact the electoral college, not the "popular vote" elects the President.
    Imagine their shock on election night.
     
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