Trumps spending is beyond insane

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  1. SEAL Team V

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    In fact there are investigations ongoing with many govt departments. It seems when a department has a surplus and year end is fast approaching they will frivolously spend that surplus on nonsense so that department receives the same budget next year. Draining the swamp is taking longer than projected due to the entire Trump presidency has been nothing but resistance from the Dems.
     
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    Remember what the GREAT GREAT Eisenhower said about the , " Military Industrial Complex"
     
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    Military spending is out of control
    Welfare benefits out of control.

    Trump really has no power to change the spending as both the Demoncats and Repukelicans want massive spending
     
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    Then you should be happy that his new budget cuts the deficit and social spending
     
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    his budget propopsal increases the deficit.
     
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    In that same speech, Eisenhower called for maintaining a strong regular military because in a future war there would be "no time to mobilize"
     
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    No. you linked to a website that even admits some of the figures for other nations are "estimates". You didn't link to anything that one minutes on Google wouldn't give anyone.

    That is not proof. I want evidence from an unbiased source.
     
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    I gave you the citation showing the spending. You are free to provide a source of your own which rebuts mine. "nuh uh" isn't an argument. My figures stand, unless proven otherwise.
     
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    Well good thing your not running then :)
    Wrong.

    So the military does not provide defense.
    So the military does not benefit from the equipment money buys.
    That's your view?

    Stop reading lefty talking points, they will rot your brain.
     
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    currently? no. We are paying to be an occupation force. We are not even constitutionally at war currently.
    Ask anyone currently in the military what they think of the equipment they are issued.
    I don't read left talking points. I'm simply pointing out your right wing talking points are disproved by reality.
     
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    “Even with all the proposed spending cuts, the budget would fail to eliminate the federal deficit over the next 10 years, missing a longtime GOP fiscal target. Instead, White House officials plan to say their budget proposal would close the deficit by 2035.“
     
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    I have no idea how you think this contradicts anything I said? Trumps proposal increases the deficit. Claiming that you can "eliminate the deficit in 15 years" is like claiming you can achieve world piece in 15 years. It's moronic.
     
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    No it’s stating the budget decreases the deficit. Not enough to make the 10 year mark but 15 instead. But nevertheless it’s impossible for it to do so unless it’s lowering the deficit.
     
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    I support a lot of the items Trump has succeeded on, but I have to agree his approval of Spending is insane! He has a 1/10 rating with me on Spending and it pisses me off to see very little mention of this in Republican circles. They are failing generations to come with this reckless approach. I see very few politicians on either side calling him out on it and that sucks.
     
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    What countries are you talking about? You can not really be endorsing isolationism can you? You think that is a viable defense strategy in the modern world? Withdraw into our borders and wait to be attacked before we defend ourselves?

    We defend ourselves more effectively by having troops and ships deployed out side the U.S..

    I really think you view of "defense" is incredibly narrow.
     
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    Nations do not "declare war" anymore. Declarations of war are a historical anachronism.
     
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    Well the reality is that he can’t cut because democrats control the house. His newest budget is his indication that if he gets a republican house he’s going to get some cuts done. But it’s impossivle to do while the dems hold the purse strings.

    I doubt they’d even let him cut military spending for fear it would look like a “win” for trump.
     
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    Congress sets the spending not the president... if you have a problem with overspending you have a problem with congress, specifically the house of representatives. Not the president.
     
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    I think strong military is a must when you want to be an America First president. Other countries don't like America when its in America First mode.
     
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    What does being "currently being at war" have to do with defense? You want to only have the ability to defend the country if we are at war? I'm not even sure what you are trying to say....

    And for the third time what countries are you talking about? Can you maybe just toss a name or two out there? Bases by treaty? Boots on the ground? Ships in foreign ports?

    Very well aware of the equipment the U.S. military has and it's quality. I've handle a piece or two, hell I have some sitting 4 feet from me know :)

    Your a walking talking point. I could write your next 5 post I bet.
     
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    How dare you not blame Trump!
     
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    I have yet to see a budget Pelosi has offered. It's real easy for her to complain when she hasn't done her job.

    Still Trump Spending 1/10.
     
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    They are strengthening their forces and have been for decades. Both spend am higher percent of GDP on the military
    With which he was referring to the fact that increasingly the Intel outfits were controlling too much access to information and the bureaucracy to all pervasive.
     
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    That's been going on for decades. Part of the Gingrich contract with America was trying to put an end to that sort of abuse.
     
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    but it increases it

    trumps
    Budget proposal calls for cutting some spending but ramping up military spending by more than he is cutting, increasing the deficit.
     

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