Trumps spending is beyond insane

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Looking at the source instead of the facts contained is definitely a way to avoid reality. But not one that makes you look smart.
     
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    You guys do it to Fox every day so.. ehh don't care what you say.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    When Fox reports facts, they are as worthy of analysis as any. The problem is that you guys on the right keep confusing opinions with facts. Fox is designed so their viewers don't know the difference. But those of us who are not immersed 24/7 in their echo chamber do.
     
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    The military industrial complex is all about empowering and enriching select corporations and the very few. Manufacturing a phony endless war on terror is the scam that came out of 9/11, the gift that keeps on giving. Over 90% of the victims of this ongoing genocide are innocent men, women and children. In a real modern war it won’t matter much what kind of defense we have, the end result will be an extinction event or near extinction event. The fools who buy this war propaganda are enablers of the bloodbath machine running this pretend government. It does not operate within the constraints of the Constitution and hasn’t in decades.

    “War is a racket.” - Major General Smedley Butler, USMC
     
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    You just described all of the msm
     
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    That old dictator dribble again...
     
  7. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    When the other debater is left with no other resource but the "I'm rubber you're glue" argument, that's when I know that my job is done.
     
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    Nonsense as far as Democrats are concerned the only necessary military spending is that to keep bases open in their districts, even when the military itself has long ago declared the base redundant
     
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    Illegals cross the border in such numbers and with such impact that it is an invasion.

    From MacMillan Dictionary

    Invasion(2) -- a situation in which a large number of people or things come to a place at the same time, especially in an annoying way
     
  10. Dayton3

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    There isn't a single fact in your post. Although Butler did say that.
     
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    that is not an invasion, that is illegal immigration. Neither country has ever invaded the US.
     
  12. Bob0627

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    For you the only “facts” is the propaganda being relentlessly spoon fed to you by the military industrial complex and their minions. They depend on mass gullibility for their raison d’etre and of course to line their pockets.
     
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    Trump has just announced a budget that cuts 4.4 Trillion dollars in spending over 10 years. About a half-trillion per year.
    I know, you didn't see that part......

    It won't matter because the Dem house will cut out the cuts and increase waste, which will then be blamed on Trump.
     
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    You sure have drunken the kooaide
     
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    Of course.
     
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    The military industrial complex is a self licking ice cream cone. For example, an officer who retires at an O-6 or above can in general look forward to a post retirement high paying job with a company providing goods or services to the military.
     
  17. Bob0627

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    Check the mirror, YOU swallowed the propaganda and defend it religiously. For me war is not only a racket but more importantly it’s a war crime and the ultimate in human rights atrocity. This is profiting from mass murder and carnage paid for by the gullible fools who are fully complicit.
     
  18. Dayton3

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    I love how you people love to talk about how people are profiting from war excessively yet you never actually name names.

    If you really believed what you say you would have a dozen names of individuals and corporations which have profited excessively from wars, how much they profited excessively and how a "war" led to those excessive profits.

    Otherwise you're just prattling leftist propaganda.

    I don't suppose you ever thought of it this way but what you call the "military industrial complex" during World War Two was known as the "arsenal of democracy" without which the good guys would not have won the war.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Cool!

    Hmmm... I wonder how many other claims we could make using the Dictionary Fallacy that you provide.

    How about that Trump won in 2016 because white supremacists invaded the voting places.
     
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  20. Bob0627

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    You don't really give a **** do you? You're too indoctrinated and only believe the lethal garbage you've been fed. The list is too long, but I don't mind educating those who really care:




    All you understand is "left", "right", "republican", "democrat" bullcrap ignorant propaganda labels. The last 3 Presidents and a good case could be made for the last dozen Presidents are/were all war criminals pandering to the military industrial complex.

    “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” - Benjamin Franklin
     
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    Didn't answer the question. Then again, the deflection is prob all I needed to know about you anyway.
     
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    So using words consistent with the definitions provided by a recognized English language dictionary is to you a fallacy.? It is impossible to have a well reasoned debate without some ground rules such as using standard English as opposed to making up your own definitions of words.
     
  23. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No. Cherry picking one meaning from a dictionary and ignoring the context is, as I have demonstrated, most definitely a logical fallacy. Not surprisingly, it's called a Argumentum Ad Dictionarium (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_dictionarium)

    English is good. But useless if logic is absent. Saying something in the most proper language, elegant prose, and perfect grammatical structure is worthless when what you say is total nonsense.

    When you say that Mexico invaded us (or similar) with no further significant qualifiers, the interpretation given by @rahl conforms to logic. Yours does not.
     
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    If the "list is too long" then you should have no problems listing a dozen or so individuals or corporations which have profited excessively by war and explain why those profits are excessive.
     
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    Sorry I can't help those who wear blinders and ear plugs, the videos speak for themselves.
     

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