Stop & Frisk is Unconstitutional

I don't care what anyone said, including Bloomberg, Trump, or the SCOTUS, stopping and frisking a person without probable cause or suspicion of a crime, other than the fact that they are a minority, is completely and utterly unAmerican and against everything we stand for in this country.

So everyone on here kissing Trump's and Bloomberg's boots on this matter need to go sit and think about it. If you really believe its fine for cops to just walk up and order you against the wall, then you need to move to China or Russia, because this is America and we don't believe in that here.

 

Why is it only wrong if they do to a minority? Is it less wrong if it's done to me? I agree that stop and frisk is wrong, but I don't think that it has anything to do with haplotypes.

 

That is the basis of the stop and frisk policy implemented in NYC under Bloomberg. Brown people got the treatment under his mayorship.

 

I call BS. People got stopped and frisked because of where they were not because of their haplotype.
People got stopped and frisked because they were in high crime areas.

I don't agree with stop and frisk. I'm for sure going to jail if I get stopped all like that. I'm going for, at least, resistance.

 

You didn't answer his question. You just doubled down. I agree with bricklayer, its wrong period. Regardless of skin color.

 

Going by Bloomberg's own words, the cops were stopping and frisking young minority males.

 

I'm willing to be frisked of it helps catch people with illegal guns. I can deal with 20 second of being patted down to help save lives

 

That was my point too. Bloomberg is the one saying it's ok to stop and frisk minorities, and Trump and his loyal followers are falling in line. Its outrageous.

 

Well, you may be, but that doesn't change the fact that in order to allow this policy, we must relinquish our Bill of Rights.

 

What of the millions of individuals who do not share such an outlook and do not wish to be subjected to such? The individuals who were not asked for their input on the matter, and who have essentially had the decision made for them by some individual who thought it was a good idea at the time, all the while knowing that they themselves would never be subjected to what they are subjecting others to?

 

Amen

 

I'm sure more than just brown people.

 

Unless there is a willingness to use deadly force to deter such, there is nothing that can be done about the issue if the united state supreme court has already ruled such practices do not violate the united states constitution. If such has come to pass, deadly force and a civilian uprising is the only response left to take.

 

Might possibly be a relevant point except you are not describing the actual occasional stop and frisk policies of New York City.

 

Please quote and link to Bloomberg stating that "it's ok to stop and frisk minorities". Trump also while you're at it.

 

Stop and frisk is not new, I recall when I was a teenager window shopping in downtown Boston a city cop approached me and asked if he could pat me down, which is frisk.He explained to me that I matched the clothing worn by someone who had just armed robbed a Beneficial finance office nearby.He was checking me to make sure I didn't have a weapon.This was about 60 years ago.

 

Too late. Too much. I already don't believe the next charge of racism, whatever that may be.
Ever read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"?

 

SCOTUS stopped it.

 

Not these days, since the SCOTUS required NYC overhaul the policy. But, my OP was based on the statements of both Bloomberg and Trump's stated support of Bloomberg's policy.

 

Bloomberg justifying 'stop & frisk' on young minority males: "And they way you get the guns out of the kids' hands is you throw them up against a wall and frisk them"

 

ok. ever heard of what an ostrich does?

 

Just confirms why I don't like Bloomberg. Haven't liked him for years. Thanks for that.

 

The left has no credibility. If it's true, keep it out of their mouths if you want anyone to believe it.

 

I know it's unpopular but it is quite possibly the only effective way to get guns off the street and why is it that the gun control left oppose that but support shaking down law abiding gun owners. Over time the anarchy promoted by the left has turned the inner cities into the wild west where gang warfare is a constant. To add insult to injury the left vilifies law enforcement all the while advocating for the criminals with insane reforms that return felons to the streets shortly after being convicted of crimes including murder. Stop and frisk should have probable cause but that should be at law enforcement's discretion because they are the ones down in the trenches and if you're going to question their judgement what is the value of law enforcement in the first place? As in any profession law enforcement officers constantly train and are even subjected to mandatory sensitivity trainings the value of which is questionable. More important and valuable training includes recognizing criminal intent at the psychological level allowing for a more proactive approach. I view stopping and frisking known felons in troubled areas as proactive and a more realistic way to combat crime rather than reacting after the fact.

 

Bloomberg is the one who believes being young,black and Male is enough to stop and frisk. Just like Hillary called young black males "Super Predators"..... I can't see how anyone can support a democrat.