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  1. Mamluke13

    Mamluke13 Newly Registered

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    I'm starting to study Sept alison.com its.free but the trick is it's a non accredited school but it has professional up to date standards in there classes.do you think its possible to get a job with a non accredited degree or certificate
     
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    No, not really.
     
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    Depends on how old you are and what experience you have I would think.

    All of my training/certs were employer paid for.
     
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    Im 39 but I heard it depends on the employer fro. Your experience do you see people with non accredited degree get jobs.like for coding etc
     
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    I am not in the coding field so I don't know. Seems to me that coding is a saturated market so the pay is sliding. My field is lacking in competent technicians so the pay scale is easily negotiated higher.
     
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    My wife is 42, didnt graduate college, works in finance on the I.T. side and makes 150k.
     
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    I know so many people saddled with college debt that don't even work in the field they graduated from. Find an occupation that will pay you to go to school. There are MANY!
     
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    Won't AI be doing all of the coding soon?
     
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    I don't know, I am not in that field but that's a scary thought!
     
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    Yes. But it's not a college degree. In the end, it's what you have learned that counts. Everything you learn helps you get a job.

    There may be other alternatives, though. Depending on what it is you want to learn.
     
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    Absolutely. There are many resources online to learn coding. I first learned to code when I got my college degree in the 70s and 80s. Very little of what I learned about coding then was useful shortly after I graduated other than the general concepts. In the early 2000s I found myself without a job, and very few options available. I managed to land a coding job by pure luck. Had to teach myself to code again in the newer platforms using books and lots of practice in a week. If you know the logic behind coding, the rest is not so difficult. Most employers won't evaluate you on your degree, but on what you can do.
     
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    Hell, just ask Lori Laughlin. I mean she does have the in on admissions to an accredited university so whipping up a degree from that school should be a piece a cake for her. It’ll cost you though.
     
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    Why settle for getting a job? Why not create one for yourself and then create some for others. I've been working on that since I was twenty two years old, and I've only a tenth grade education. At some point in life, don't you want your tools to be other people? If you can't employ yourself, you'll not be able to employ others. Do you really want to have to work for every dollar you ever earn? And what about the people who can't employ themselves? They need people like you to provide them with jobs.

    The truth of the matter is that people who can do what I suggest above don't need credentials. They need knowledge.
    Credentials can only take you so far. With credentials you will have to work for everything you ever earn. But knowledge will set you free. Stay with Alison, and start thinking like a boss.
     
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    Judging by your typing, I really wouldn’t go into coding if I were you. Any typo is very unforgiving.
    I code in SQL and C#.

    As for accredited university - yeah, when I see resumes with schools like University of Phoenix, I generally send them straight to garbage.
    It’s not that hard to get a degree from a normal accredited university.
     
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    That isn't a school and isn't offering degrees, even non-accredited ones. It's just a site offering on-line courses and there are plenty of similar sites who are less dishonest with their marketing. If it's completely free, you'll likely get what you pay for. I'd recommend Pluralsight as a better option for programming based courses, though that isn't free. This kind of site can be useful for developing and expanding your skills in particular areas and are especially good for keeping up to date with changing technologies but they're not something that you put on your CV specifically. You'd still need either formally recognised qualification or to start at the bottom and learn on the job.
     
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    20 30 years ago yes, that was like the wild west then and a lot of people were self much harder to get in the door these days.
     
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    At the moment the door is wide open. It was far harder to get a job a few decades ago.
     
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    But you need those credentials you mentioned or you wind up like son working a phone or chat line for 12.50 an hour and working for five different companies in eight years while sitting at the same desk
     
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    Locally the best opportunity for someone with little money is the electrician's union. They give people first rate instruction in the National Electrical Code and all of the electrician's skills and all you have to do is pay union dues. They're more of a guild than a union. You won't make a lot until you're a journeyman but the couple of guys I know who got their education like this say it is the best deal anyone can get.

    You do have to be able to endure calloused, dirty hands, some backache, and a weathered brow.
     
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    There are companies who like their people to have certificates for window dressing, but actually hire on the basis of ability. Problem with non-accredited degrees is they smack of having no credibility in saying you have the education they stand for. If the school is actually providing the education, it would probably be seeking accreditation of some kind.

    I am self-educated, I have no problem saying you can learn a great deal and develop fine skills without a college degree- but I'm an entrepreneur, own my own businesses- not dependent on a degree to get a job.

    I looked at the site. My impression is that it is closer to a trade school than a university and not trying to misrepresent itself. You would earn a certificate from such a place, and it would have value but would be seen differently than a formal college degree by employers. It's validity depends greatly of the career and position you are aiming for. Regardless- no degree or certificate is more valuable that the right attitude and drive. Anyone who is looking for a job that can present the right attitude instantly has an advantage over most applicants.
     
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    no they are scams, all learning is on the job
     
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    That is largely true that all real learning is on the job. But sometimes a piece of paper does get you in the door and to the starting line. And the more widely recognized, accredited, and generally highly thought of is the issuer of the piece of paper, the more likely you get the door opened to you for a start and a tryout.
     

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