Trump-Netanyahu’s ‘deal of the century’ revealed

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  1. bomberfox

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    Except satan doesnt exist.
     
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    The Palestinians are robbing us Europeans!
    There is no other word for this nasty stealing that lasts for so many years.
    The Arabs leave the Palestinians as a bleeding wound in the Middle East and we Europeans have to pay money every year for that.
     
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    So you just want all Jews only in Tel Aviv ??
     
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    pales never wanted peace and they will live in their sewer pipes forever
     
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    Pales will get 2/3 of WB and new land near Gaza plus 50 B
     
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    When you start wars and invade you pay the price
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah yes, free and democratic elections in Vietnam - just like free and democratic elections
    in North Korea, and East Germany, and Hong Kong, and Poland, and .....
    Yes, the Israelis had their land stolen. Three bruising Roman wars left the Jews without
    a nation for nearly 2,000 years - and driven out of 120 nations after this tragic event.
    You go to many of the towns an villages of the bible but you only find some dirty Arab
    settlement on top of it. It's Jewish name replaced with a Muslim one.
    Same thing is starting to happen in Europe now. I believe Antwerp is nearly half
    Muslim. Wonder what the Arabs will call it?
     
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    You misunderstood, no pop transfers, its just a question of jurisdiction, no one is squeezed in this proposition, the Palestinians never governed themselves as "Palestinians" there was always some ruler - Ottomans, Brits, Jordan, Israel, only after Oslo they got to govern themselves.
     
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    Didn't take you long to come out of your closet! When are you going to start supporting the final solution?
     
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    "Free and democratic elections" only came about AFTER the U.S. left Vietnam. Those "free and democratic elections" had been scheduled when the French left the country but the U.S. invaded, occupied, and started a war in Vietnam instead. Get your facts straight.

    It wasn't stolen by the Arabs.

    That's quite a racist comment. If I were a snitch I'd ask for it to be removed.

    It could be .... but the last time I was there it was half Jewish.
     
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    I suppose you can say there are free and democratic elections in Vietnam and her
    colonies right now. Depending where you are in Hanoi's empire you would vote
    like this.

    1 - Vietnamese Communist Party
    2 - Vietnamese Communist Party
    3 - Vietnamese Communist Party

    1 - Cambodian Communist Party
    2 - Cambodian Communist Party
    3 - Cambodian Communist Party

    1 - Laos Communist Party
    2 - Laos Communist Party
    3 - Laos Communist Party

    It's not as obvious as that - but essentially, that's what it is.

    Re dirty Arab towns. No, it's not a racist statement. Go visit Arab nations - walk
    around the best of them - Cairo and Amman. No Muslim left-wing sympathizer
    in the West would live in them. And certainly, no place for a single woman.
    And this was the state of Palestine late 1800's. The Jews bought up a lot of
    land from Arabs and Turks, drained the swamps and cleaned it up. Even the
    bible itself said the Jews would return to Israel and restore a ruined land. That's
    an incredible thought - an indictment to the Turks who controlled it and the
    Syrians who "owned" it.

    And the first Jew murdering riots were against Jews who were living on land
    they legally purchased from Turks and Arabs. The rest is history (though I
    don't like that Trump is approving of now in the West Bank - that's a bridge too
    far as far as I am concerned.)
     
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    Yes, a final solution could happen in Europe again.
    Anti-Semitism is rising again. This time it's coming from three directions instead of one.
    1 - far right attacks
    2 - far left attacks
    3 - Muslim attacks
     
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    Here's a quick lesson on Vietnam:
    1. Vietnamese Communists contributed greatly to tossing out the Japanese occupation (under which Vietnam had no Democracy) by armed force.

    2. The Vietnamese Communists tossed out the French occupation (under which Vietnam had no Democracy) by armed force.

    3. The Vietnamese Communist tossed out the U.S. occupation (under which Vietnam had no Democracy) by armed force.
    The Japanese and the French denied Vietnam self-rule and Democracy. When Vietnam was finally to conduct Democratic elections the U.S. invaded instead and plunged the country into yet another war.
    NOTE: It was the U.S. (not the Vietnamese Communists) who refused the Vietnamese people the vote under Democratic elections.

    How the Vietnamese people vote is none of our business. The Communists have been a Godsend for Vietnam all through modern history. I was a soldier in Vietnam 1966 – 1967 and I visited again in 1999. The country is doing very well for itself and that is thanks to the Communist Party and as long as things are going well I see no problem with the Vietnamese people voting Communist again. The country has Democratic process today, something they never had until they defeated the U.S.

    I have been to at least a dozen Arab nations on several occasions and I have been to Israel twice. My preference for order, hygiene, cleanliness, and the position of women in their respective societies is none of my business. If it were up to me I would radically change both the Arab and the Jewish State. How they live is maybe my business?
     
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    Interesting. Have you been to North Korea? It has elections too. So does China, so does Russia.
    What improvements have come about in Vietnam are wholly due to the opening of the economy
    to Capitalism. A friend of ours spent ten years in a "re-education camp" for the crime of being a
    leader in the Sth Viet army. He got out the same year Hanoi opened its stock market.
    Without the peasants of North Korea being able to sell their own produce the nation would have
    starved to death. Didn't the same thing nearly happen in Vietnam?
    Uganda went from a simple peasant cash (read Capitalist economy) to a Socialist, govt control
    economy where people starved or were shot, and back to a Capitalist economy with a six percent
    growth rate - similar to the one in China when it abandoned economic Socialism.
    So why the war?

    Yes, the Communists "tossed out" the Polish, Ukraine, Hungary, Rumania, Bulgaria, Romania
    and Czech Capitalists too. Liberation came to these nations.

    America understood what Stalin's "free elections" meant for these hapless nations. At the time
    many in South Vietnam did not. They quickly found out - hence the shock and anger of the Nth
    Vietnamese when they invaded the south and found few friends. I guy I walked with said one
    Sth Viet refugee had a saying he heard often after 1975, "don't listen to what they say, watch
    what they do."
     
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    As expected, you displayed your hatred of Muslims and Arabs then play the victim card.
     
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    I don't know the percentage of Arab attacks - it's just a fact.
    It shouldn't surprise anyone. Many Arabs supported Hitler
    in the war - including the Mufti if Jerusalem who was with
    him in his last days. You will find Protocols of Zion and
    Mein Kampf in many Arab airport bookshops today.
    The real surprise, to many, is that the Western Left has
    joined in this ancient racism. Worse - some are openly
    siding with the Islamists too.
    So I suppose, the Jews should just go home to Palestine.
     
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    So, you have no idea of the lies and crimes the U.S. committed in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Grenada, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Panama, Costa Rica, Chile, Iran, Irak, Afghanistan, Cuba, etc. huh? And have you never heard of Joseph McCarthy and Geo. W. Bush? All of that treachery was committed in the name of Capitalism. The U.S. destroyed and thwarted world-wide Democracy more than any other nation. You can murder one another off to extinction in the U.S. if you want. But get your hands off the rest of the world.
     
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    Ain't that a crack! It's funny, really. All of that devastation and still they claim to be a victim!
     
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    Carry on playing the victim card. News for you - The Old Testament is not a history book. The current Palestinians have more ancestry with the people of ancient Palestine than most of the current Jews in Palestine and Israel. Many of the Muslim Palestinians have Jewish ancestry - Muslims did not appear out of nowhere
     
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    You're right.

    Definitely worth thinking about.
     
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    So, with modern DNA, lets sift the Jewish Arabs from the Arab Arabs.
    Let's allow all people with credible Jewish DNA to live in Palestine.
    Let's take the Jews out of all the nations they currently live in - and
    where many hate them, and send them home.
    And let's send all the Arabs back to where they came from. This
    could be the Arabian Peninsula - I don't know.

    One problem - the Arabs in Israel don't want to be a part of the
    West Bank "Deal of the Century" business. So getting them to
    leave Palestine completely is going to be a hard sell.
     
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    Which bit don't you get? - Palestine is not Jewish land and Arabs have lived in that land for 1000's of years. LOL at your "Deal of the Century" quote. Here is a better idea - remove everyone who does not have ancestry going back 200 years
     
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    You are confused. There Moslem Arabs, Jewish Arabs, and Christian Arabs. .... all of them are Semites. Religion is not a race.
     
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    So someone with 200 year ancestry can stay, someone with 3,500 plus years
    ancestry must go?
    We know there still exists the lineage of Aaron, the brother of Moses.
    This is the Levite tribe. They, for starters, can be the first group to stay.
    We can then work on all the other tribal groups going back to the Bronze
    Age.
    Muslims appeared, when, sixth or seventh century AD.
    I think the Muslims in Europe and American can leave, too.
     
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    True. Some people are converts to Judaism. Strangely enough, such people never
    tended to stay with Orthodox Judaism more than three generations on average.
    Jews of the Cohanim/Cohen line have an amazing lineage of nearly 4,000 years.
    Studies of genetic purity once focused upon the Jews of Rome - still there after the
    destruction of the nation of Israel by Rome. Never intermingling much.
    Jews and Arabs, even if they never mixed, would still be related as they both come
    from the line of the Hebrew Abraham.
     

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