Trump Admin to Send Border Patrol Special Ops on Raids in Sanctuary Cities

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  1. struth

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    Such a shame he did that to his family
     
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    Harboring an illegal alien is a crime
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct. Blacks are midway down the liberal totem pole. Muslims are at the top. Also ahead of blacks are illegal Hispanics, legal Hispanics, gays, trans, and a few others.

    But blacks are still ahead of women, labor unions, and trial lawyers.
     
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    States aren't harboring an illegal alien. Sanctuary cities/states simply do not permit state resources to be used to enforce federal law. That is the job of the federal government and they need to pay for it.
     
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    I don't know a lot about the new totem pole of intersectionality, but it is mf'n irrationality, and anti Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
     
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    The politicians are. I’m not blaming the citizens of the state.

    the dems tried something similar back around the civil war, we call it the nullification crisis
     
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    It’s fun to track how the demographic groups are ranked by the Dems. Once you establish the rankings, you can predict how the Democratic Party will behave in any conflict between the groups.

    It’s much more fun and interesting than the Republican Party, which treats all people as individuals.
     
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    states legalise marijuana so they can harbor federal criminals
     
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    Did what? Got brought here as a kid?
     
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    Stayed here illegally.
     
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    They aren’t, as I pointed out.

    So you don’t know what nullification means. Not using state funds to do the feds job is not nullification. There is no and can not be any federal law which compels a state to enforce federal laws.
     
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    They are

    I know. They aren’t being asked to. What they are doing however is giving them aid and helping them evade federal law enforcement
     
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    I’ve shown they aren’t.

    no they aren’t.
     
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    No you haven’t. Yes they are.
     
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    Of course I have they no they aren’t.
     
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    Nope. When they give advance notice to criminals and help them avoid federal agents, they committed a crime as well.
     
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    If jack-booted, heavily armed soldiers is something you WANT to see in America's cities under ANY circumstances, you do not deserve to live in a peaceful, democratic republic. You do not deserve liberty or safety. It's best you pack up and head for someplace more authoritarian. There are plenty of such places in the world. Pick one and get out.
     
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    Illegal aliens are invading the country. They are the enemy. Treason is aiding the enemy. Hence sanctuary politicians are treasonous.

    It seems to me you are the one who is confused.
     
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    By some of the comments here, few know what sanctuary cities are or do. Allow me to help you, if you're willing to know the facts.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city

    "Leaders of sanctuary cities say they want to reduce fear of deportation and possible family break-up among people who are in the country illegally, so that such people will be more willing to report crimes, use health and social services, and enroll their children in school. In the United States, municipal policies include prohibiting police or city employees from questioning people about their immigration status and refusing requests by national immigration authorities to detain people beyond their release date, if they were jailed for breaking local law."

    "Studies on the relationship between sanctuary status and crime have found that sanctuary policies either have no effect on crime or that sanctuary cities have lower crime rates and stronger economies than comparable non-sanctuary cities."

    "Opponents of sanctuary cities argue that cities should assist the national government in enforcing immigration law. Supporters of sanctuary cities argue that enforcement of national law is not the duty of localities."

    There are some good arguments out there if you're interested on whether or not it is even constitutional for local police to enforce federal immigration violations, which after all are misdemeanors, not felonies.

    My personal opinion on these special forces:

    If jack-booted, heavily armed soldiers is something you WANT to see in America's cities, in our homes, under ANY circumstances, you do not deserve to live in a peaceful, democratic republic. You do not deserve liberty or safety. It's best you pack up and head for someplace more authoritarian. There are plenty of such places in the world. Pick one and get out.
     
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    These Republican/Trump propaganda is insane!

    ICE and the federal authorities can hunt down and arrest and deport ANY illegals anywhere!

    ICE can go to jails, hospitals, schools, jobs, anywhere they wish to arrest and deport illegals as they wish!

    The only thing the so-called "Sanctuary Cities" refer to is they are not going to job for the feds supposed to do!

    The cities are already overwhelmed, the city jails and detention centers will have no ability to arrest and jail murderers, rapists, thieves, and even unpaid parking tickets (which cities need to fund their tax receipts). Further, the regular experience for local police is any illegal won't talk to cops investigations or get information and testimony for the police to get catch serious lawbreakers. The cities have more important problems than arresting Jose the lawn mower, which costs the city tons of money, the feds don't pay anything for the costs for if and whenever ICE cares to pickup the 1000s of undocumented who have jammed up jail and the local courts so serious American criminals have to be released for more rapes, thefts, child molesters and everything else.

    This whole BS of Trump getting big time on Sanctuary Cities (whatever that is) is a joke! Want illegals? Go out and arrest them by the millions, but not in the already overloaded city jails and police!

    If the Republicans were serious about illegals, they could just give us actual IDs over and arrest anyone who is not. After 8 years, Trump and the Republicans claimed Obama was not American, with a new story of Trump's "Super Sleuths" in Hawaii and never made even a single ripple.

    What a FAIL!
     
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    The problem is when folks aid and harbor illegals.
     
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    yep

    No they didn’t, anymore than announcing a dui checkpoint is.
     
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    no they aren’t. They crossed the border illegally, which is a misdemeanor.

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    Again, this shows you don’t know what enemy means.
    And this shows you don’t know what treason is.
    Not really, since I just corrected you.
     
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    aiding and abetting criminals is a crime
     
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    They aren’t aiding and abetting criminals. Anymore than announcing a dui checkpoint is. Sorry.
     
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