You need to listen to Fox News to actually get it!

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    Sorry that was a day late and a dollar short.... Shift had already conducted his Star Chamber....Jerry didn't even all a fact witnesses, just a handful of radical professors that had been calling for the President to be impeached since Nov of 2016. The President wasn't going to take part in that sideshow.
     
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    1) 3 relevant witnesses called by Republicans were in fact invited to testify. Totally irrelevant ones were denied such as Hunter and the whistle blower as they could not possibly present relevant testimony. This was done in accordance with the rules that were set by the Republican committee that investigate Benghazi.
    2) All Republican members were allowed the same time under the same rules as Democratic members. Again, they were following rules set by Republicans previously. No questions were "approved" and the only question denied was one meant to out the whistle blower which would have violated federal law.
    3) I have no idea where you got that, he was invited he declined. The invite held no conditions other than those all members had to adhere to.
    4) Make believe la la land.

    That leaves you with zero.
     
  3. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Bright guy! Thank you for the compliment.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yet another talking point that proves what I said on the OP. A Fox echo-chamber will just repeat this nonsense they heard from their talking heads, without so much as pausing to wonder "how would DACA personally benefit Obama?"

    As I said, the Fox echo-chamber consumer is required to not question anything.

    It would be funny if it weren't for the fact that examples in history of this mentality have never ended well.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually you show your ignorance of FOX news. You have been given plenty of suggestions for watching hours of FOX that are totally neutral and yet you rail on the same old talking points. Get back to us after you have watched one hour of Bret Baier, Shannon Bream, and Martha MacCallum.
    Then get on to the pablum fed you by Rachel Mancow and Larry O'donnell
     
  6. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You said "You complain about all the info in the report being redacted, when shown that the leaders can look at the redacted parts you dismiss it as it being worthless "

    Quote where I said it was worthless. I said it would be absurd to impeach him based on an ongoing investigation when there are so many other instances ("sheer number", remember?) of obvious abuse of power that are not under investigation. And it would be ridiculous to expect him to reveal information that might hinder that investigation. So I ridiculed it, as all ridiculous statements demand.

    So looks like you're going to claim you misinterpreted it. I don't see how the above could be misinterpreted to mean "worthless", so it's a poor excuse. But it will have to do, I guess...
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump supporters listen to nothing other than Fox, Breitbart etc, and literally NOTHING ELSE? Do you have even a semi credible link supporting this claim? On the surface, that sounds sort of preposterous when referring to such a sizable chunk of the electorate. Are you trying to say that none of them ever catch the network news or their local paper? Do they never see their yahoo/google etc newsfeed? That would take quite an effort, and boy that would surely be a ratings bonanza for Fox that is not bore out by the Nielsen ratings. I know that your characterization certainly does not apply to me.
     
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  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm not talking about "bias". Of course they're biased! That makes no difference... Or it shouldn't. to any moderately intelligent consumer. I'm talking about knowingly misinforming their audience. But your post does raise a good point (inadvertently, I'm sure): watching other media is useless if you are too gullible to figure out the difference between bias and deliberate misinformation. This is what the Fox echo-chamber is counting on to deceive their habitual audience.
     
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    misinformation? You think CNN, MSNBC, NYTIMES are not guilty of this 24/7? Concentration camps on the border? Trump works for putin and is a russian agent? The covington kid (LIES).. remember buzzfeed? Nytimes and cnn have had to apologize for fake news..

    you want fake news? Just check below sites. There is fake news on cnn, msnbc to a greater degree than anything fox news can boast about and the fact that you consider it just biased and fox news fake, shows where your credibility is - NEGATIVE territory, not even 0.

    https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20...-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/

    https://www.cernovich.com/mike-cernovich-is-more-reliable-than-cnn/

    fake news awards:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_News_Awards
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    This thread is not about Fox. It's about Fox echo-chamber consumers.
     
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    Of course people consume Fox, it's the most trusted News network out there.....why would anyone consume news from those other untrustworty news outlets?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    They may read the local paper, and watch other news and peek at articles that pop up on yahoo or google. But they only listen to the Fox echo-chamber.

    Outside of the echo-chamber, you won't see anybody seriously entertaining completely debunked conspiracy theories like the ones about Ukraine being the one that attacked our elections, and not Russia (as all intelligence agencies have proven). Or that there was some sort of DNC physical Server, or that scientists conspire with the climate to convince people that climate change is real, or... any of the nonsense that the Fox echo-chamber consumers believe. When they hear the contrary, they just dismiss it without paying much attention to it.
     
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  13. FAW

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    So when you said...."But they [Trump Supporters] listen to Fox and their echo-chamber all day long, and nothing else."....you were just making it up. Gotcha. That's precisely what I suspected.

    Some may call that extreme hyperbole. Others may call it an out and out lie. One thing is for certain, your word probably should not be taken literally.
     
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    Nobody on Fox says that Ukraine and not Russia attacked our election.

    Where are you getting this misinformation?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It may not be able to be taken literally but...........

    Pew Study: Fox News was No. 1 news source — for Trump voters

    https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-m...s-is-no-1-news-source-for-trump-voters-233773

    The most loyal Trump allies are Republicans who watch Fox News
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...mp-allies-are-republicans-who-watch-fox-news/

    Although 37 percent of Republicans overall said that almost nothing could dissuade them from approving of Trump, more than half of Republicans whose primary news source is Fox News held that view. By contrast, only about 3 in 10 Republicans whose primary news source is something other than Fox were as solid in their support of Trump. Even Republicans without a college degree, a bastion of Trump’s support in 2016, and white evangelical Protestants were less likely to say that they expected to stick with Trump no matter what.
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    As Bill Maher sometimes says, with tongue in cheek, I can't prove it for a fact I just know it's true. Consider that one does not have to exclusively watch Faux to hear the same message since right wing media outlets tend to mirror each other in their monolithic spew.
     
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    ....but you figured that you would go off on a strawman regardless. No thank you, I am not interested.
     
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    If I were you I wouldn't be interested in discussing the out sized influence Faux has on Trumpette's either. Cuz.........you know.......lies.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any time anyone would like to see some daily fact checking on Faux's spew here's a great source.
    https://www.mediamatters.org/

    Prediction: Trumpette's will attack MM's credibility by repeating talking points designed to smear it but not be able to refute what they report.
     
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    Fox is the most trusted news network in the nation.....
     
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    Media Matters can't be trusted...it's a George Soros funded site....
     
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    Exactly so. At that point Trump showing up for that garbage would have only given excess dignity and gravitas to a lynching that did not deserve it.
     
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    ...Hmmm...I'm not sure about any of that, but I am sure that I am not interested in going off topic and chasing a silly strawman argument.
     
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    Become one and discover where you are wrong.
     
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    He was not given any opportunity to bring witnesses in the House hearings upon which the bogus articles of impeachment were based.
     
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    But they don't unless you believe GOP garbage...
     

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