As trump guy ..I do agree with left on few things

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  1. Quasar44

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    about 1-10 percent tops

    Amazon pays 1.3 in Fed tax
     
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    I support revolvers
     
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    Semi-auto revolvers?
     
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    Do you support gun free zones?
     
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    Baby Boomers are at the top of the pile now and most of them did smoke weed and snort some cocaine when they were younger and probably don't see the harm. Whereas the previous generation were mainly only exposed to alcohol and cigarettes whereby they didn't see the harm in that either.

    Personally, I don't care what anyone does at home so long as they don't get behind the wheel of a car or go out and recklessly endanger others.
     
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    You are certainly rational and logical. Great post.
     
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    Semi-auto revolvers?
     
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    6 shots is plenty for home def or a shotgun
     
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    Look, do you think that any semi-auto gun should be allowed?
     
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    Agreed but how do we make that politically possible? Remember it's not about safety, it's about paving the way to an Orwellian future for America. As long as the law is on our side it behooves everyone in the sane states to acquire a personal arsenal of high quality firearms and tons of ammo. If they can ban the AR15 et al, high capacity magazines, certain types of ammo, levy ridiculous taxes on firearms and ammo and add more restrictive laws annually, is there any question of what their true intentions are.
     
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    Fine wine and other classic spirits are a legitimate commodity. DOPE is just garbage that people use to get high. Your comparison is ignorant
     
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    Do you know what a semi-auto "gun" is?

    Revolvers ain't that
     
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    How high in alcoholic content before this is no longer relevant?

    Uh, the medical value?
     
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    Did I mention revolvers?
     
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    Talk about ignorance, it is a fact that alcohol is worse than weed, in many ways. It is a fact that alcohol addiction is a serious, serious disease.

    it is also a fact that people can get high on many legal things, heard of glue sniffing?

    i have never done drugs, never even tried weed! But if someone wants to use it or take drugs, that’s their problem.

    meanwhile, the war of drugs has created the modern Al capones - pablo escobar, el chapo and death and violence to the degree we have never seen. Heard of ISIS in middle east? You can find the same thing in mexico - sinoloa cartel or los zetas, powerful criminal organizations which are even more powerful than the Mexican army? Know about MS13? Gang violence in inner cities? What about the number of people incarcerated for drug offenses?

    How much have we spent to combat drugs? Trillions? How has that worked out?

    I don’t take drugs and never will but illegal drugs have created much bigger problems than if these drugs were legal.
     
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    Yes I do
    How can we get rid of hundreds of millions of pistols
     
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    What exactly is your stance here? Semi-auto rifles should be banned but not bolt action or shotguns or pistols?

    If the question is how can we get rid of hundreds of millions of pistols then the answer is about as easily as you can get rid of tens of millions of AR-15s and AKs.

    You can't...
     
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    I support only shotguns , ruffles and revolvers for self def
     
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    Yes..the facts are ...what I think is best ..is impossible and I know
     
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    The military and police would have to go door to door
     
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    I hear you. I personally don't want hard drugs to be legal. I've seen first hand what crack cocaine and the like does to people, families, the addiction, etc. I have family members currently addicted to that stuff and it's a terrible scenario. However, I am a rational enough person to understand that just because I don't personally want it to be legal doesn't mean it actually makes sense for it to be illegal. I've seen first hand the effects of crack on people but I've also seen first hand the effects of alcohol abuse on people. Meanwhile I have a home bar stocked with multiple bottles of whiskey and bourbon....

    I'm honest enough with myself to understand that I simply cannot provide any argument whatsoever against cocaine that also cannot be applied equally to alcohol. At least with alcohol, with all of it's negative properties, it's legal therefore I know when I go into the store to purchase a bottle of Jameson whiskey I'm getting Jameson whiskey and not some random concoction brewed up by my local moonshiner in his shed. That's the problem with illegal drugs, you have no idea what you are getting in that package because there are no regulations hence the massive spike in fentanyl overdoses and whatnot. Or infections from dirty heroin needles. Or most recently those kids dying overnight due to those illegal THC vape cigarette cartridges they bought off of street corners. Nobody's lungs turned to glue overnight and killed them from vaping juices they bought from an E-cig store, those kids were dying in a matter of hours from inhaling some random liquid weed concoction things that random people were making in their houses.
     
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    Door to door for who? Everybody?

    For 1 you can't use the military to do that, that's illegal in the US.
    2 you can't just send the cops to every single house in America. You don't have enough cops, and even if you did and they went knocking on everyone's door it's not like anybody is going to let them inside to look around. You need warrants for that and to get a warrant you need probable cause from a judge. "We made AR's illegal yesterday and we know there's like 20 million of them in the country but we have no idea where they are so we need a blanket search warrant for every house in America" wouldn't fly even if AOC herself were Queen of the US...
     
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    Many would turn them in if you give them a huge buyout compensation
    The others you would have to use the police
     
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    Most are law abiding and would turn them in
     
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    Do you have any evidence to support your claim or is this just speculation?

    If we look at statistics from other nations who have tried the buyback policy it doesn't work very well. New Zealand tried it recently and they've only gotten an estimated 10% or so of the guns out of the hands of the people as the result of them voluntarily turning them in to authorities.

    New York implemented the Safe Act which required all "assault rifles" to be registered and the banning of any further purchasing of them. According to authorities there are about 1 million "assault weapons" in NY and only about 44,000 had been registered. So about 4% of people were law abiding and willing to listen. That's not "most".

    Australia has similar numbers.

    New York is heavily Left leaning and NZ and Aussie aren't exactly the United States. If you can only get 4% of the guns registered in a state like New York (which rivals California as most Progressive in America) then what do you think the compliance rate would be in a place like Alaska? Alabama? Montana? Texas? Etc.

    Other "civilized" nations call the US the wild west with our crazy gun culture and our insane 2nd Amendment that actually lets citizens have these things. And they are fairly correct, we do have a gun culture here. If nations without a 2nd Amendment can't even get their citizens to voluntarily turn in their "assault rifles" then what makes you think Americans of all people would do it? It's hard to get more "Progressive" than New York and even they told the government to go pound sand when they asked for their ARs to get put on the government tracker.
     

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