Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Are you kidding? My imagination cant even fathom some of the ridiculous stories the J-Ws have invented
    No, he had nothing to do with peal harbor.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Stealing J-Ws money and property - PROVEN FALSE

    J-W propaganda:
    - Lamp shades made from J-W skin - PROVEN FALSE

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-W Fat rendered to make soap - PROVEN FALSE

    J-W propaganda:
    - Gassing of J-Ws - PROVEN FALSE

    J-W propaganda:
    - German Death Camps - PROVEN FALSE

    J-W propaganda:
    - Shrunken J-Ws heads - PROVEN FALSE

    J-W propaganda:
    - Genocidal Electrocution - PROVEN FALSE


    With all those lies it seems we need forensically investigate every detail of the outrageous holocaust stories to get to the truth.
     
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  2. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, your imagination is malleable enough to believe that cuck-and-bull story this Charley Larson invented.
    Are you sure? Maybe he's the one who claims "The Trail of Tears" was an annual trek made by the Indians and that not a single Indian died along the way.

    Each and every one of them has been PROVEN TRUE.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Homo Homine Lupus meaning Man is a Wolf to Man. We don't need any real reason to hate anyone. We make them up quite readily but they're all just excuses.
     
  4. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    YOUR EVIDENCE?

    More big mouthed lying Marxi-Zio-commie J-Ws I suppose?
    Not bad for a first day in the new armchair commando seat! Does it have drink holders?

    No court on the planet accepts blow hard alleged witness statements over material forensic evidence unless someone is threatened or paid off, the material evidence must match the testimony or its thrown out..

    J-W propaganda:
    - Mass murder of J-Ws - PROVEN FALSE

    J-W propaganda:
    - Gas chambers in view of prisoners - PROVEN FALSE

    J-W propaganda:
    - Ability to tell when a J-W was being gassed by smoke color - PROVEN FALSE
     
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  5. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Let me clarify for those who are easily confused:

    the material evidence and testimony must match or the testimony is thrown out in favor of the material evidence.

    So it does not matter if everyone on the planet testifies that you can swim in ice, material forensic evidence proves the testimony is false or a lie.
     
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    It would be generous to assume that the neo-Nazi bloggers are even telling the truth about Larson in the first place. I don't think they ever cite their supposed "quotes" from him and they lie when they say he found no evidence of gassing. He explicitly did find evidence of gassing, though he thought it was rare in Dachau -- historians generally agree with him on this point. For mass gassing, Dachau typically sent their prisoners to other camps. They had plans for a gas chamber of their own, but I don't think it was complete by the time of the camp's liberation. Larson points out that they did, however, use cyanide gas in the showers for some prisoners. I found all of this a while back when debating a Holocaust denier on FB and I'll share the quote from him again when I find it (this one, unlike those of the neo-Nazi bloggers, will be cited).
     
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    More credible than yours'.

    My mouth is of average size.

    Generally speaking, I only lie when I apply for a visa to a country that I know won't accept the truth.


    I'm not a communist.

    I am not a Jew, if that's what you mean, so you suppose wrong.


    I will be 73 next month so this is absolutely not my first-day crushing trolls and correcting people with no knowledge.


    No.

    That is precisely why the mass murder of Jews [called the Holocaust] is - PROVEN TRUE
     
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    These so-called neo-Nazis would flunk out the first week of Hitler Jugend boot camp. They (Hitler Jugend) were inspired by fanatic and regimented adults while these neo-Toe rags are delirious on sloe gin fizz and dressing up for each other in Holloween drag.

    I think you are probably right about Larson and him being attributed to much more than he actually claimed. It would be great if you could find those quotes and although our dear friend won't acknowledge a word of it I promise you that I will be happy to read it.

    BTW: I have been to both Dachau and Auschwitz-Birkenau and what you say is true. Also, as most people refer to the extermination camp in Oswiecim as Auschwitz it was actually the camp across the road of Birkenhow that carried out the "final solution". I'd like to point out that Holocaust deniers like to make a big deal out of the "fact" that Auschwitz (itself) didn't "exterminate" people and for that reason alone the Holocaust is a lie. I am fairly certain they know that such duties were carried out at Birkenhow but they'd rather leave that detail out of their rant.
     
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    Because religion is a good thing for good people, and a bad thing for bad people.
     
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    I appreciate that POV. I was reading that the tours of Dachau are explicit about that, and I'm glad to see some confirmation of that. Anyway, here's the Larson quote I was talking about (and proof positive that the neo-Nazi blogs Koko is copy/pasting are lying):

    "The majority died of natural diseases of one kind or the another. However, we did probe into such questions as, ‘What happened to those prisoners who became psychotic at Dachau? What did the Gestapo do with them?’ Well, they took those people to the crematorium. First, however, they were taken to a big windowless building next to the crematorium where the ceiling was covered with false shower heads. The victims were then ordered to strip and take a ‘shower.’ Outside the building, guards dropped in cyanide pellets. Then they’d blow the cyanide gas out and remove the bodies next door to the crematorium ovens. I think this is what happened to most of the truly psychotic prisoners and those they considered unruly and unmanageable and who, in the Gestapo’s opinion, were incorrigibles. But, in my opinion, only relatively few of the inmates I personally examined at Dachau were murdered in this manner. Still, medical facilities were totally inadequate. When people fell hopelessly ill and death was imminent, and when they grew so weak they could no longer work or function, they were taken to the cyanide room for disposal. The Nazi called them ‘mercy killings’ because there was no hope of them getting well. Actually, the Germans considered them a liability, and extermination was the answer.” (‘Crime Doctor,’ McCallum & Larson, p. 61. ISBN 0-916076-20-2; Library of Congress Catalog Number: 78-16403)

    https://debunkingdenialism.com/2014...ring-miscellaneous-pseudoscientific-nonsense/
     
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    Apologies for not responding to this sooner, Pisa, but great points. Funny how everything the neo-Nazis post in their blogs is a lie or a desperate non-sequitur, but their fans copy/paste their word vomit anyway. I'm sure you know this already, but don't expect any history denier to address the lies you've uncovered.

    Funny how the neo-Nazi enablers (the ones who, up until now, relied solely on copy/pasting racist lies) are now silent . . . and how they can't address historical facts like Himmel's testimony . . . and who are disarmed by having lies uncovered, such as the ones you discovered.
     
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    Why were there so many survivors?
     
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    Thats just a Marxi-Zio-J-W opinion, not a Larsen quote.

    You must be talking about this one:

    [​IMG]

    The one with all the windows? :roll:

    Up until 1960, it was an accepted fact that a gas chamber, disguised as a shower room, had been used to murder prisoners at the Dachau concentration camp. Then on August 19, 1960 on page 16, Die Zeit, a German magazine, published a letter from Martin Broszat, head of the Institute for Contemporary History in Munich.

    Herr Broszat stated that the Dachau gas chamber had never been completed and had not been put into operation. In 1976, Simon Wiesenthal, the famous Nazi hunter who was himself a prisoner at the Mauthausen concentration camp, wrote a letter to a magazine called Books and Bookmen in which he stated that there were no gas chambers on German soil.

    However, Martin Zaidenstadt, a self-proclaimed survivor of the camp who, for many years, came back to visit it every day, told the tourists that the Dachau gas chamber was indeed used for mass murder. The staff at the Dachau Memorial Site allowed Zaidenstadt to walk around the camp and ask visitors for money, out of sympathy for his suffering at Dachau, even though the camp records show that he was never a prisoner there.
    https://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/GasChamber/history03.html

    "I think this is what happened"

    and thats your proof that J-Ws were gassed? You cant be serious can you?

    I think means its 100% inconclusive!

    Of course since you have nothing, not so much as a tiny string to hold up your wild claims, here is more fun facts to shatter the hate filled imaginations:


    Zyklonb does not go into a gaseous state until over 80 degrees F, now you have these large buildings in the middle of winter and spring, do explain where they got the heat to gasify the pellets by simply tossing them on the floor? :roll:

    I did a quick check for germar rudolfs test video and its no longer on his site. What he did was take 2 kids and lock them in a sealed outhouse for 1 hour heart and oxygen monitors on both. Opened up a new canister of Zb and poured the whole thing on the floor of the outhouse. Doing constant radio checks proving this pouring Zb crystals on the floor is just another hoax.

    http://thisiszionism.blogspot.com/2008/03/zyklon-b-test-on-humans.html

    thats 26 for koko, 0 for the marxi-zio-commies!
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Why were there so many murder victims?
     
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    huh? Evidence? Why was there a 3million death toll LIE that took 70 years to sort out due to all the bullshit, and that you still cite as your narrative?

    WTF makes a 3 million mistake, oh wait reparations were paid based on the death toll, I almost forgot! I want my tax refund!
     
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    Neo-Nazi revisionists up until this point, "Larsen is the only person in existence that we can trust for forensic evidence!"
    Neo-Nazi revisionists after they realize that their forensic hero is calling them all liars, "You know, that's just one guy. We should hear from someone else."

    Once again, they are liars no different from the flat earthers. They are exactly the same.
     
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    the only liars are the marxi-zio.commies, 'I think' is not an expert opinion but an expression that further investigation is required to establish the facts.

    1) There are NO autopsy reports of any Nazi gassing victims from any western doctors. Although there were many thousands of corpses available in German concentration camps by the end of the war and although at least 1,000 autopsies were performed, none showed any evidence of death by poison gas or poison. Dr. Charles P. Larson made those autopsies to find proof of gassings but found nothing.
    2) Except for two poor quality photographs allegedly taken near Krema 5 at Birkenau (see Pressac), there are NO photographs that are even alleged to be of corpses of Nazi gassing victims from any German concentration camps. Both photographs were obviously retouched and clumsily, especially one naked female in the foreground with flailing arms. They also fail totally to show any signs of hypostasis. Some darker areas should have been evident even in black-and-white photos.

    The photographs that are endlessly shown from Belsen, Dachau and elsewhere—and misused deliberately—have nothing to do with gassings. The captions for those photos from any number of news or government sources clearly fail to even claim they are of gassing victims.

    3) There are NO German documents to identify any gassing victims. For those who think otherwise, let the USHMM, or the ADL, or anyone else provide such a document.

    4) For “overwhelming” Holocaust evidence, what one is given aside from photos of people who died from natural causes is anecdotal rubbish. So-and-so was last seen being sent to the “left,” or “right,” (it doesn’t even matter) usually by Dr. Mengele (with a “conductor’s baton” and wearing a “monocle” according to Elie Wiesel: Night, page 29 in Bantam paperback—just like Erich von Stroheim) and never seen again—but, sometime later (half-an-hour, or so) smoke was seen rising from the chimney of the crematoria just down the road and, therefore, darling so-and-so must have been gassed. That is as good as it gets, folks. An inconvenient fact for the Jewish liars who told such tales is that according to a CIA report,“ The Holocaust Revisited,” Feb 1979, page 11: “Although survivors recalled that smoke and flame emanated continually from the crematoria chimneys and was visible for miles, the photography we examined gave no positive proof of this.” That is an understatement because the CIA had more than fifty high resolution photos from large format negatives taken by US reconnaissance aircraft when gassings were supposedly most frequent, every day during the summer of 1944 (4 April through 13 September 1944). The CIA experts could NOT find the slightest trace of smoke from any crematoria. Clearly, the “eyewitnesses” LIED.

    crematoriums dont smoke but the J-Ws told us they could tell by the color of the smoke!


    5) There are NO German documents that speak of gassing. For those who think otherwise, let the USHMM, or the ADL, or anyone else provide such a document.

    6) Elie Wiesel and many tens of thousands of Jewish “survivors” c-h-o-s-e to leave Auschwitz and go west by January of 1945 with the very same people who had supposedly been murdering them by the thousands every day for years. How is that possible if Auschwitz had been any kind of “extermination camp?”

    “The choice was in our hands. For once we could decide our fate for ourselves. We could both stay in the hospital, where I could, thanks to my doctor, get him [the father] entered as a patient or nurse. Or else we could follow the others. ‘Well, what shall we do, father?’ He was silent. ‘Let’s be evacuated with the others,’ I told him.”

    Not one picture of a gassed J-W exists in any records anywhere, this is what they would ahve looked like:

    [​IMG]

    9) The numbers of “Holocaust survivors” are enormous

    10) The “six million” number itself is pure Jewish mythology

    https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/2015/01/27/simple-reasons-for-rejecting-the-holocaust-hoax/
     
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    J-W propaganda:
    - Colored Crematorium smoke - PROVEN FALSE

    J-W propaganda:
    - Gassed J-Ws - PROVEN FALSE

    [​IMG]
    What about the 6 million in the 1919 holcaust?

    Thats 12 million out of 15 million holocausted J-Ws


    Explain?

    All the other holocausts were fake why should we believe this one real when the zio-marxi-commies cant cough up any evidence and have to hide behind gag laws to prevent investigation into their lies?



    [​IMG]
     
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    Perhaps the most authoritative statement of the facts as to typhus and mortality in the camps has been made by Dr. John E. Gordon, M.D., Ph.D., a professor of preventive medicine and epidemiology at the Harvard University School of Public Health, who was with US forces in Germany in 1945. Dr. Gordon reported in 1948 that “The outbreaks in concentration camps and prisons made up the great bulk of typhus infection encountered in Germany.” Dr. Gordon summarized the causes for the outbreaks as follows:

    “Germany in the spring months of April and May [1945] was an astounding sight, a mixture of humanity travelling this way and that, homeless, often hungry and carrying typhus with them…”

    Dr. Gordon’s findings are corroborated by Dr. Russell Barton, today a psychiatrist of international repute, who entered Bergen-Belsen with British forces as a young medical student in 1945. Barton, who volunteered to care for the diseased survivors, testified under sworn oath in a Toronto courtroom in 1985 that “Thousands of prisoners who died at the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp during World War II weren’t deliberately starved to death, but died from a rash of diseases.”

    Dr. Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed each day.

    Despite noisily publicised claims and widespread popular notions to the contrary, no researcher has ever been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps.

    In addition, 14,000 internees died at Bergen-Belsen alone, after the coined ‘Liberation’ (from typhus) by British forces, clearly not by so-called German executions or gas chambers. More internees and staff died at Bergen-Belsen after ‘Liberation’ than before, under German administration.https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/
     
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    Only desperate neo-Nazis could point to a forensic investigator one minute and then ask us to ignore that same investigator the moment he dares challenge their racist agenda. Just more proof their cult was never based on evidence.
     
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    Im pointing out that marxi-zio-commies dont have a clue what the difference is between relevant expert testimony compared to expressing one of several possible' but unproven hypothesis, the latter having no standing in any court on the planet. Hell you still havent figured out how I beat you in the lack of belief debate, though you also consider yourself a philosopher, needless to say I take great pleasure in that too.

    Even if that possible hypothesis were true, it it merely prove some rogue unauthorized agent did it against German policy.

    YOu really need to enlarge your exposure if you want to argue things of this magnitude if its truth you want, oh wait....I forgot.

    Furthermore you totally disregard my post #494 which is really hard to find since its the one above yours that there were 2 other pathologists one which testified in court.

    Since one post above yours is too difficult for you to find, I will post it again for you so you can disregard more FACTS that are inconvenient to you story line spin.


    Perhaps the most authoritative statement of the facts as to typhus and mortality in the camps has been made by Dr. John E. Gordon, M.D., Ph.D., a professor of preventive medicine and epidemiology at the Harvard University School of Public Health, who was with US forces in Germany in 1945. Dr. Gordon reported in 1948 that “The outbreaks in concentration camps and prisons made up the great bulk of typhus infection encountered in Germany.” Dr. Gordon summarized the causes for the outbreaks as follows:

    Germany in the spring months of April and May [1945] was an astounding sight, a mixture of humanity travelling this way and that, homeless, often hungry and carrying typhus with them…”

    Dr. Gordon’s findings are corroborated by Dr. Russell Barton, today a psychiatrist of international repute, who entered Bergen-Belsen with British forces as a young medical student in 1945. Barton, who volunteered to care for the diseased survivors, testified under sworn oath in a Toronto courtroom in 1985 that

    “Thousands of prisoners who died at the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp during World War II weren’t deliberately starved to death, but died from a rash of diseases.”

    Dr. Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed each day.

    Despite noisily publicised claims and widespread popular notions to the contrary, no researcher has ever been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps.

    In addition, 14,000 internees died at Bergen-Belsen alone, after the coined ‘Liberation’ (from typhus) by British forces, clearly not by so-called German executions or gas chambers. More internees and staff died at Bergen-Belsen after ‘Liberation’ than before, under German administration.
    https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/

    There I crayola'd everything to dumb it down as far as possible and enlarged it because it seems the only way to get a point across to the marxi-zio-commies in case they forgot to bring their glasses
     
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    By the way did you come up with some good spin on how they can get zykln b to gasify on those cold floors yet? :roll:

    why should we believe the alleged 1945 holocaust when we know that the 1919 holocaust was faked?

    Wheres my damn tax refund? The death toll was reduced to 1 million!

    Even yad le' scammer cant find enough J-Ws to get to 6 million! Do you think that his requirements are too strict? 'any J-W living in europe and russia at the time'? Think maybe he should enlarge the scope a bit more to include any J-W alive on the globe?

    got any material evidence, pictures that look like this:

    [​IMG]

    Im sure you had no idea that is what a gassing victim looks like.


    Got the goods for us?
     
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    I see what you mean about copy/pasting lies. Paraphrasing is fine as long as it clearly shows that only an excerpt from a larger piece is being used. Using it as a whole is (as you say) a lie.

    The treatment at Dachau sounds familiar really. The mentally ill were treated in the same (or similar) manner and ending their lives was PR'd as "doing them a favour". Dachau, as you know, was used mostly for political prisoners and dissidents.
     
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    I wouldn't refer to the survivors as "so many" and if you don't know why there were any survivors at all then I am astonished that you don't already know. Is it a rhetorical question or do you really want me to answer it? The short answer is ... the speed of the Red Army's advance.
     
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    Tens of thousands of slaves were murdered in the Union concentration camps during the Civil War. Are you outraged about that?
     

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