Obama Takes Credit For Booming Economy

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  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    I posted facts.

    We weren't speaking about peoples' misguided and unwarranted assumptions.

    And we weren't discussing unsourced and hysterical assertions. If you have some sourced facts, please post them.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The facts the matter to the American voters were listed by President Trump in his State of the Union address.
    They are an impressive list of facts.
     
  3. rahl

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    depends. With population growth, and new jobs being added in the economy, along the same trend line, it is just as easy to add jobs when UE is at 3.5 as it is when it's at 8.
     
  4. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL....I guess that is all that needs to be said.

    Your abject ignorance is on display. Whether you realize it or not is literally of no consequence. I feel more than confident that I have proven my point. I am going to seek out someone from the adult table. Best of luck to you.
     
  5. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    This may just be the least responsive post I've read here.

    Congratulations on scampering away from a debate at Olympic sprinter speed.
     
  6. Nemesis

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    Lay out those "facts".

    I will be much interested in those "facts".

    When you're finished doing that, find a source giving that moron "credit" for riding long term economic trends.
     
  7. struth

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    What’s there to debate? I agreed with you obama was handicapped by having a dem congress
     
  8. rahl

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    I know it sucks for you that reality is clashing with your ideology. But it won't go away. Rejecting it won't do you any good.
     
  9. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looking at your posting total of almost 60k posts, are all of them of the 1 or 2 sentence lacking substance variety, or do you perform more admirably in other threads and I just keep missing it?
     
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  10. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If anyone wants to understand why Trump gets so easily agitated with Obama, particularly when the latter points out he initiated the long economic expansion the country has enjoyed since the Bush recession, and did so without enacting a tax cut giveaway to the rich to boost GDP but exploded the deficit, watch this.

     
  11. rahl

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    huh? All the arguments I make are supported by data, with citations. This particular argument you are making has been refuted so many times in so many threads that all that is required now is a simple reminder of that fact. I really couldn't care less whether you accept objective reality or not, as objective reality it will remain regardless of what you feel.
     
  12. Nemesis

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    There you go again.

    Do you think that you "win" debates here by misstating other posters' claims?

    It's rather immature. Please do a better job.
     
  13. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL......just not this one or any other conversation that I have with you. For that matter, not any conversation I see you have with anyone else. Gotcha.
     
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    All bs.

    But here are the facts. Obama added far more jobs than trump. Look how badly trump sucks even though he was handed an economy in great shape.

    Obama was handed an economy in free fall because of Republican principles.

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  15. rahl

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    where did you get lost? It's an objective fact of reality the economy has been on the same unchanging trend line since 2010. This is a proven fact. Nothing trump has done has changed any economic metric trend line.
     
  16. struth

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    Maybe I misunderstood your comment then. I thought you were highlighting how Obama inherited a bad economy...which he did
     
  17. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A strawman argument is when a person argues against a point that has not been raised.

    Now please show me where I have argued that the trend line is different.

    You will not do so, because I have not made that argument. Hence, you are making a strawman argument because you are arguing against a point that has not been raised. It is difficult to take you seriously, because you never seem to make a serious argument, at least not in any discussion I have observed with myself or with anyone else for that matter. You come into threads and rapid fire countless responses because they are all only a few mindless sentences, often times a logical fallacy without one shred of actual thought put into them. You then proceed as if you had just made a great point, to make baseless assertions like "you just cant accept objective reality".
     
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  18. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If only they were perhaps people would be more receptive to your posts.

    FactChecking the State of the Union
    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/factchecking-the-state-of-the-union-3/

    This is the point where Trumpette's typically refer to the facts as fake news. Or call the organization refuting Don's lies as being funded by Soros...........or some such nonsense. What they don't do is make the counterfactual argument..........because there is none.
     
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    So you are just rambling incoherently, and not addressing what I've posted. ok.
     
  20. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL.....This is a short thread. It is all there in black and white. You aren't fooling anyone, other than perhaps yourself.
     
  21. rahl

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    Oh I have no need to fool anyone. The data is perfectly clear.
     
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    Lets leave it up to the reader to decide. This is boring.
     
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    I accept your concession
     
  24. Natty Bumpo

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    Obama feels he deserves credit for the nation's recovery from the Bush recession, initiating and presiding over seven of the past ten years of economic growth, and Trump can certainly claim credit for building on that success he inherited for the past three years.

    He can also lie and deny the first seven years of growth, and be assured that some asshats will actually swallow that.

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    To whatever unknowable extent a president actually impacts the economy, hyper-partisans will acclaim one and attack the other.

    So it goes.

    Mindless pom pom flailing is silly.

    Will Trump keep bloating the national debt?
     
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  25. One Mind

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    Lol. You cant make that claim with certainty and you should know that .

    TPP would have sucked more jobs just as nafta did and when we gave china our jobs .

    Sorry but trump gets to take credit even if your hate wont allow it. We cant trust in any opinion that hate creates. Those brains are null and void with anyone with some living brain cells left.

    I am sick of the intellectual dishonesty fueled by base emotions.

    And I am supporting sanders not trump. I just detest what hatred does to some people. Some objective minds must point this out . So tired of the partisan BS. And the thoughtless knee jerks .
     

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