More than half of French people think that our civilization will collapse

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    I’ll make you a deal. When Leonardo DiCaprio parks his jet and yacht and tells the world about global warming via FaceTime from the drivers seat of his Prius parked outside his off grid yurt, I’ll sit up and pay attention. But so long as the people trying to cram global warming down my throat Have, themselves, a carbon footprint 1000 times larger than the average joe, I’m not going to worry about it.
     
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    A wall is the best way to solve the problem, that way everyone could be registered and given a temporary work permit. The money they make could be sent back to their families and it would better the economies of their home country as well.

    This is what Germany did after the war, and I'm sure it's what Russia does. I read that they were processing 5 thousand work permits a day in Moscow.
     
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    You mean the little Stalin’s that run each of these failed nations ???
    They did that on their own
     
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    Wasn’t the concept of the modern condom developed to combat a syphilis epidemic originating in France?
     
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    Speaking in general terms -
    Alternate medicines and its underlying philosophy of contempt or suspicion
    of Western medicine leads to the deaths of thousands of people annually.
    In the last year alone measles has killed over 10,000 children (mostly
    Nigerian) because of anti-vacc views. Millions more die by abstaining from
    vaccines, medications, health testing, fake diets and the like.
    It's all a part of that sad, tired and mentally vacuous resentment of the
    Western tradition.
     
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    Okay... I understand... every immigrant going to America comes from a nation
    that America has destroyed. Why do they chose America if that's the case?
    I mean - America destroyed Ethiopia (must have 'cos of all the Ethiopian
    immigrants) so why do Ethiopians go to America and not, say, Canada or
    Mexico or Europe? And once in America, why don't Ethiopians leave?
    What damage, BTW, has America done to Ethiopia? And Ireland, Canada,
    Mexico, France, Jordan, Germany, Nigeria, South Africa ...... ??????
     
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    I was thinking of Europe, not the US. And especially migrants from Africa. We should have a wall though, and the migrants who come here should be registered and given temporary work permits.
     
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    I don't know if it's resentment of Western tradition, or a distrust of the US in some parts of the world.

    As for alternative medicine, things have to be balanced out. There are healthy ways of eating, and there are supplements people can take rather than drugging themselves up. Of course if a drug is necessary, then it's a different story.
     
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    Temporary work permits are a problem - wot happens when it's time to go home?
    Legal appeals, court cases, EU motions, Human Rights appeals etc..
    Fact is - Europe will one day BE AFRICAN. It happened with Rome and it will
    happen again - the mass migration of peoples.
     
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    Who knew it would lead to the collapse of civilization - ;)
     
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    Again, that theory go beyond simply global warming.

    Many people just use that theory to start to start a semi-autarcic way of living in the countryside.
     
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    France as a western, Christian nation has been dying on the vine for years. Atheism and Islam are the future for France. Only God knows where that takes them.

    But don't think I'm a smug American. We're on the same trajectory. Although we're about 100 years behind France on that path.
     
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    I agree with your statement. As a christian country, it's more complicate. I have rarely met white people being christian, however a large part of the immigration are subsaharian christian, either catholic or evangelic.
    Today, I think it's not an exageration to says that christianity is in France an african religion.
    Most of my catholic relatives have been buried by african priests, which is great because without them, there wouldn't have been a catholic ceremony.
     
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    I frequently hear them complain,... everything is getting more expensive while they aint earning more.
    Yup. The french pay a high price for their early retirement idea's.
     
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    Rome simply got beat by invading armies. And they didnt come from Africa.
    And I don't see how it will be African any time some day.
     
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    Rome was beaten largely because there were not enough Romans.
    Many of them coming from the South were Africans.
    Take a 90% majority having 1.8 kids per couple and a 10% minority
    having 3.5% - the number of grandchildren will be equal to both groups.
    This is Islam in Europe.
     
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    Typical mainstream medias propaganda. "Taking care of your elderlies is the problem". First, countries like Japan and USA have also huge public debt problem, for Japan it's even worse. USA has sligthy less public debt, but much much more private debt. Student debt is a time bomb. Even countries which no protection for elderlies has problems.
    And I'm always amused to see those politicians that barely worked in their life giving lessons of why they should retire later to some members of my family who got tough work all their lives and got as a payment cancers in their 60's. If there is a fat pig which got rich with the state it's them and their billionaire buddies.

    Yes and no.
    Romans let a number of barbarian tribes come on their territories under the status of "foedus" or "foederati", they were thinking they would end to integrate those barbarians in their culture. We could quote the Franks, a part of the goth, the burgundians.
    At the battle of the catalaunian plains, some goth under roman foedus would fight some goth under Attila command.
    Short after, the barbarian would end to divide themselves the roman empire.

    So basically, they wanted to "integrate" some foreigners and ended to get their country taken over by them, because they were too decadent to defend themselves. Should I really explain how similar is the situation with modern west ?
     
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    No, France has been rioting for years now.
    They pay like $6/gallon for gas, and their socialist pension system is bankrupt.

     
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    You're just making it all up and add a racist theme to it.

    About 2.3% of the Italians are Muslim. You're just talking total nonsense.
     
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    The thing is, that people are getting older and older. If you don't raise the age of retirement, than the people need to save a lot more for when they retire, or need to cut a lot of expenses when they retire. The entire idea that "the government" will solve it, getting money from thin air seems the idea of the French people at the moment. How very naive.


    Just because they weren't Christians, doesn't make them barbarians. The Huns were simply superior with their mounted archery. They made the Romans pay tribute a bunch of times, between wars where Rome lost time and time again. They simply drove the Romans back from all the way from the Balkans to the center of Rome. And not just the Romans. Them Huns took care of the Goths and Vandals too. And them lot rather invaded Rome than trying to hold their ground against the Huns. There was no integration. Nobody took over Rome and made them collapse. Utter nonsense. At best, Rome made other people comply with their culture by force. Insane to claim it was the other way around. Just insane.
     
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    Well the French can be glad to think that way....since about 75 odd years ago, we liberated France so they COULD think pessimistically.
     
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    More than half of French people think that our civilization will collapse
    If it does, we're all in trouble, for very few of us know how to survive on our own. We are all completely interdependent on each other to provide the necessities we all take for granted in our daily lives. Such an outcome would indeed, be a global tragedy.
     
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    You have a problem with maths and history.
    European Italians are not replacing their population, the Muslim
    Italians are having kids just fine. Muslims quietly, amongst them
    selves, will speak of timelines for when each European nation
    will become Islamic. Many will fall to Islam this century.
    North Africa became a big deal to Rome in the 5th Century. It
    was part of the south, north and west, invasion.
     
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    Your idea that 10% of the Italians is some Muslim immigrant is nonsense.
    They got less than 10 mosques in the country. That % you name is bullcrap.

    That's white supremacist fake news.

    south, north and west? Dude... lol
    Rome got destroyed by a superior armies coming from the east!!
     
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    The comment about owning Europe came from Muslim friends.

    And not just ANY Muslims, it's the radical ones who are having the most kids.

    I don't know any "white supremacists" - but I know a few black
    and brown supremacists.
    Rome fell from the East? What about the Vandals from Africa
    and the Germanic tribes from the North?
     
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