How many threads are started by foreign trolls ??

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  1. gringo

    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    I read this board for entertainment only

    but when I see much of the hatred and stupidity posted here I think to myself

    “Americans are not this hateful and stupid”

    Am I wrong ??

    Are foreign trolls posting here and creating discourse on purpose??

    what say you??
     
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    I say never underestimate the power of American stupidity and hatred . Msm and those that see compromise as defeat have worked so hard to create this hateful tribalism in order to misdirect away from the fascism of oligarchy evidrnced by Princeton and northwestern in a study that used 2 decades of cogressional record as proof of the demise of our republic.

    We got the best fascism money can buy.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I dunno. I have read some pretty crazy posts by someone whose handle starts with a "g"
     
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    I have been thinking the same too and even thought about creating a thread similar to this. I'm glad you did as I was not certain whether such a question is acceptable by the moderators.

    But I agree, the level of nastiness and the utter stupidity of some of the responses sure as hell makes me think they maybe trolls.
     
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    I'd say you're wrong about American's ability to be hateful and stupid, and imho profoundly ignorant.

    of course there are "foreign" trolls around here, just like there are domestic trolls.

    A political discussion forum would attract people with strong political, economic and social opinions, so this is a "target rich" environment for trolls of all ilks, be they amateur or professional, sincere or malicious, right or wrong, righteous or corrupt, foreign or domestic.

    And given the fact that in Trump's america, where facts, ethics and personal integrity are heavily discounted in support of his presidency while he engages in trash talking his opponents, his nation and its institutions, its no wonder that many citizens accept such behaviors as acceptable.
     
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    Do you think ANTIFA are a bunch of foreign trolls?
    The clown that ran his car through a GOP registration booth?

    Lefties aren't right in the head these days. They have become the thought police --- think they have the right to kill people they disagree with. Look at the Bernie crowd. If you want to know how communism killed 100 million people, look around. Our lefties are heading their party in that direction.
     
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    perfect example above
     
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    Oh .. I think Red and Blue create enough discourse on their own - foreign voices would be lucky to get a word in edgewise.
     
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    The right actually kill people, the left tend to just shout a lot:
    Meanwhile, here is what the right has done in Germany recently:
    June:
    A far-right extremist has confessed to murdering a pro-refugee German politician who was found dead outside his house on 2 June having been shot in the head.

    15th Feb 2020
    One person has died and four more were injured in a shooting in the central Berlin borough of Kreuzberg on Friday evening. The shooting took place outside a Turkish comedy show at the Tempodrom, a concert venue with a 3,500-seat capacity.

    19th Feb 2020:
    A gunman has killed nine people in two apparently racially motivated shootings at shisha bars and one at his home in the German town of Hanau, police have said.
     
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    The hatred seemed to have started on 20th Jan 2009. I remember the days when I used to admire the collective patriotism and comradely shown towards each other by Americans. Nowadays, judging by posters on this board it is very much us and them. The American right hate the left and anyone foreign, the left hate the American right
     
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    The left wing media usually blames the "Far Right". Too many conservatives relative to leftists to be far anything. Fact is that Mussolini was a socialist before he adopted Fascism. Stalin --- leftist. Hitler --- leftist. They all learned fascist policies from Woodrow Wilson, the patron saint of progressivism. That's why the European Fascist Apples don't fall far from the American Progressive tree. Hitler was an environmentalist. He also adopted the notion of concentration camps from the Democrat Plantations. Democrat lynchings and eugenics put into practice by Margaret Sanger are thought to have inspired the gas chambers.
     
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    Troll is such a subjective term in this context. Too often its used in liu of an argument as a sort of quasi-accepted personal attack, inferring that the target is disingenuous, which is of course unprovable.

    Ultimately it seems to me as yet another attempt to silence extreme opinions.

    No thx. 'Trolls' have a right to speak, and we have a right to ignore them. Its the fault of those who can't let it go that the 'trolls' keep well fed.
     
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    It doesn't really matter what label is used. The 3 murderers in my post had political beliefs regarding immigration closer to those who vote Republican than those who vote Democrat. In fact the last murderer stated that Trump stole his ideas about immigrants
     
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    Of course there are I'd say about 4-5 of them put in occassional appearances. But sadly yes Americans can be that dumb and hateful. This is proven by the fact that half the audience for that Democrat meat grinder that was supposed to be a debate didn't get up and walk their asses out of that bloody three ring circus.

    On other the Dem clown car now has its token little person.
     
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    The one suggestion I would make for the management is mandatory & locked country / state of origin by IP address of every poster beneath their avatar set when membership is approved.
     
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    Do you mean you're not one?
     
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    Yeah. Obama had a knack at stirring up racial hatred. His "Wingman", Holder was even better. Civil unrest skyrocketed under Obama.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States

    Some incitements

    Fast & Furious killed Brian Terry.

    Deleting Muslims from the terror watch list killed 14 in San Bernadino

    Deleting 500,000 names from the gun background check system killed countless people.

    The Promise Neighborhood program that undermined the background check system for school age kids unleashed its intent on marjorie stoneham douglas hs as Nikolas Curz should never have passed a background check.

    Before that the same program allowed Trayvon Martin to get away with suspension for vandalism and being caught with stolen women's jewelry and burglary tools. He traveled 250 miles to case his father's neighborhood and ended up being killed by Zimmerman.
     
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    You mean he stirred up hatred by being black or perhaps you can explain how he stirred up hatred
    Yea, those 2000 guns in fast & furious really made a significant difference to the 400,000,000 guns out there
    You want all 2 billion Muslims to be categorised as terror suspects? Neither of the two murderers were on a teror watch list.
    tell that to the pro-gunners who defended him not being banned from having a gun
    You wrote this as if it was Trayvon Martin's fault that he was murdered by Zimmerman! No one gets a custodial sentence for vandalism and handling stolen property
     
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    I say you are wrong.
    probably 80% or more are by USA Americans

    The divide in America is very real and very strong.
     
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    I would say over half are Trolls....many are Putin's boys.
     
  21. dairyair

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    I think you answered the OP by showing exactly what the OP posed as questions.

    Such devisiveness.
     
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    Damned hard to do given that there are widely available computer programs that can represent an IP you want.
     
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    Wweeee!
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    Who motivated this guy?

    Gunman who shot Steve Scalise cased baseball field for ...
    www.chicagotribune.com › ct-steve-scalise-shooting-20171006-story

    Oct 6, 2017 - The Illinois man who in June opened fire on Steve Scalise and other Republican members of Congress had cased the baseball field for weeks.
     
  25. truth and justice

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    Well for one thing, you can blame the pro-gunners given that James Hodgkinson was allowed to keep his guns even though just a few weeks earlier he was reported by a neighbour to be shooting at trees in a residential area and then questioned by police. But hey, having your right to guns is more important than the deaths of bystanders
     

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