Oil from a Bible in Dalton, Georgia?????

In my opinion what is happening in Dalton, Georgia is that the ultimate Cyrus.... Messiah Yesua - Jesus is intervening and breaking His lambs and His sheep out from under denominations that force them to attack other lambs and other sheep over doctrinal differences that are actually rather petty.

James 5:14
"Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:"

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/45/1/s_724001

Isa 45:13
"I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts."

 

After the thirty seven minute mark in this video is a testimony by a woman about a woman whose son had cancer who contacted her and she and Pastor Johnny Taylor and some friends go out and pray for him........... she talks about how he passed the vial of oil to the mother who took him and some of his friends to the hospital bed of her son forty year old son who was dying of cancer...... and Pastor Johnny Taylor felt that Jesus was telling him to get the mother..... to pray for her son....... so he did this.

Pastor Johnny describes the mother rubbing the oil on the face of her forty year old son like he was an eight year old....... and guess what happens within a day or two!!!!???

My point is this....... the mother would not be considered an "elder" by ninety nine percent of denominations of Christianity so........ Jesus is breaking chains and doing what Pastor Johnny wrote on a sign....... "the church is going out of the building."

 

Seriously?

 

Yes...... there are many Jewish Bible promises of signs and wonders being used to usher in the Era of Moshiach.... to turn us around and give us a heart to actually fear our Creator.

 

I'm Orthodox and the first thing I do when anything happens to me or to someone I love, (including my dog), is reach for the oil of Saint Nektarios. He never fails me. It's called faith.

Saint Nektarios is an intercessor for cancer, so if anyone has need, they can get his holy oil from any church dedicated to him. His tomb is in Aegina Greece, and I'm sure the monastery there would also send it if asked.

 

Wish 'em luck with their new oil endeavor but I'm not buying any shares in it.

 

What kind of oil? Olive?
This miracle should be subjected to science.

But look whenever anyone claims to converse with god and he tells them things a red flag goes up personally .

They need to record his speaking so we can see if he speaks with a southern accent!

Miracles have been seen and all should be tested to weed out the frauds .

God never materializes tons of food to feed the starving kids.

Instead he secretes piggly wiggly veggie oil ruining a perfectly good bible.

Does god speak yiddish ?

I must remain skeptical until this is verified by science

 

One must judge the tree by the fruit it bears, so if people are becoming more devout because of the oil, then it is of God. Otherwise it's not.

Many years ago, I was given an oily piece of cotton with a strong scent of Myrhh and Roses that was taken from the tears of an icon of the Virgin Mary. When I wrapped it in a piece of clean cotton, that cotton too would become oily and start smelling like Roses and Myrrh. Yet the container it was in, never absorbed the scent.

When these tears are tested, (and believe me they have been), they usually find that the properties are the same as human tears but without the impurities.

 

Some bad news on this one!



Ministry with Bible allegedly producing oil shuts down, but continues to defend its work


Claims that a Bible in Dalton is flowing with oil undermined by new information


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Happy to conceed my error (in non belief) the first time one of these 'miracles' happens outside of context. IOW, when a Hindu farmer in a small South Indian village finds a Bible leaking oil. Or a Northern Japanese Shintoist grandmother. Or a Buddhist monk in the Jungles of Thailand.

 

Well said.........
it will be wonderful to see the Holy Spirit - Ruach ha Kodesh poured out
and see real healings that cannot be refuted.

Pastor Henry Gruver had a near death experience back in 1984 and he sure seems
to have a special level of faith..... .and determination to come back even after facing death.
His story is one of the wildest that I have ever heard!




Amazing Encounters with Angels, Demons & Heaven! | Henry Gruver on Sid Roth's It's Supernatural!

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•Apr 1, 2018

 

Actually there have been 'medicine men and women' (or rather witches), since time immemorial, and these people can cure others. Is the cure and source from a Creative and therefore beneficial source? That would depend on the fruits and whether a person is becoming more virtuous and devout? A person has to be very careful when it comes to spiritual matters.

Saints in the Orthodox Church can cure others when alive, (among other charisms given them), but its the miracles after their death and the clamoring of the people to have them glorified, that proves their holiness. Normally the process of glorification took 100 years, but there have been so many great Saints lately in Greece (a warning maybe -Jonah and he whale comes to mind), that the process now is about 20 years. .

I read an interesting book a while ago by a young Greek living near Mount Athos who knew the Elder Paisios (Saint Paisios). He told the Elder that he wanted to search into the different faiths - something that was common in the 70's or 80's. Saint Paisios said fine if that's what he wants to do, so off he went to India.

In India he heard about a certain Guru who had reached the highest level. When he found him he realized it was nothing more than witchcraft and that the Guru was able to fly. The horrors he saw around him though was unbelievable. There were young Americans everywhere who were stuck there and couldn't leave. They had no passports, probably stolen, and no money to get home. He believes that it was only the prayers of the Elder that saved him.

 

Of course, yes. Healers are important in all cultures.

But I'm talking about the 'supernatural'. To believe that, I would need to see any 'miraculous event' take place entirely out of context. That means it would need to be something like a leaking Bible in a place where there are no Christians. Or a flying Hindu amongst confirmed atheists.

 

In Christianity the miracles had to be out of context, otherwise why would the pagans convert? What I noticed, is that the mass conversions usually occurred after the Apostles, and the Saints that came after them as well as some Protestant Missionaries were martyred. This shows that everyone and everything a person does and feel, has an affect on others in some way and that humanity is all interconnected.

 

I'm talking about 'miracles' witnessed today.

 

If these healers can actually heal, why does anyone die?

 

Everyone dies at sometime. The healing is to foster one's faith and if one is healed or not, is all in God's providence. When a woman told the Elder Paisios she didn't want to go to a doctor, he told her she had to go, and that doctors do God's work.

 

Here's the greatest miracle in Christendom:

In Jerusalem there is the Church of the Holy Sepulcher built by the Crusaders. Because of infighting between Orthodox, Franciscans, Armenians and Copts, the Church is separated into 4 sections.

A few years ago the Israelis found that the Edicule with Christ's tomb needed repairs, so the infighting stopped and archeologists were called from Greece to overlook the work. With them were Rabbis, Protestant Ministers, Imams and scientists - all disbelieving it was the place of Christ's burial.

They worked for days and found nothing, then 2 hours before giving up they hit a marble slab with a Cross on it - probably placed there by the Crusaders. Underneath the slab was everything exactly as mentioned in the Bible. While working on it, there were quite a few unusual occurrences like the machine stopping whenever it touched where Christ lay, and then starting again.

The area with the tomb belongs to the Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem and on the Saturday before Greek Easter he enters the Edicule and begins to pray. After a time a flame emerges from the tomb and he passes it out to the people. This flame has a very low temperature for the first 20 minutes and it doesn't burn, so you can see people washing their faces with it on videos.

According to testimony's, when the flame appears on the tomb, there are flashes of light and electricity all over the Church and some candles can be seen lighting up on their own.

There's a lot of videos of the Holy Fire. Here's one from 2019. In other videos you can see the Turks that hold the keys to the Church with their red fez's, as well as Israeli police.

 

Why don't they have a 100% heal rate.

My guess is those that heal would have healed whether they saw a particular healer or not.

 

Why do people who believe in god have to pretend that imaginary miracles are proof that supports their beliefs. My guess is that demonstrates insecurity.

 

Interesting!!!!


https://slate.com/human-interest/20...medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


The Bible That Oozed Oil
A small Georgia town, a prophecy about Donald Trump, and the story of how a miracle fell apart.
By RUTH GRAHAM

 

Are you saying that anyone who witnesses something that is beyond one's scope of understanding is imagining it?

Miracles are a means to give people faith, or to reinforce one's faith. Without the miracle of Christ's Resurrection we'd still be sacrificing humans so don't knock it.

 

I've got to listen to the meetings from Dalton, Georgia again:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=603018353776096

 

This is probably like the gold dust Bible years ago on The Bonehead Network (TBN).

Complete hooey.

 

No there are a lot of things that are currently beyond man’s understanding but that doesn’t make them miracles. Miracles is just ascribing something you don’t understand or a delusion to god. Or in some cases shear stupidity like when thousands die in a tsunami and the survivors say their survival was a miracle.

And we are still sacrificing humans only much more efficiently than in Christ’s time. It is called war, and poverty, and concentration camps, and religious persecution none of which has improved over time.