Why do men like to kill men? At times of war, many men smile in the anticipation of killing another

Why do men like to kill men?

At times of war, many men smile in the anticipation of killing another man. Sons love to anticipate killing as well. Killing is the epitome of personal drama and that is why we love it. Fathers love to see it in their children, and the children are eager to emulate their parents.

We just love war, and it we do not collectively stop loving it, it looks like we will go extinct. We are just to *******ned powerful for this little spaceship earth.

Nice that modern humans, as a species we are so nice that we mostly do economic war. Not so nice when we wage military war. Unfortunately, we now seem to be waring against our own existence.

Better to trade, even with nature; so why do we seem eager to destroy ourselves by killing the earth?

The notion of honorable killing served us well to date. That notion, because of population pressures and M.A.D., now means more of an honorable suicide or genocide by all the military forces of the world, should they be stupid enough to get to a nuclear WWIII.

We men are no longer doing the best that we can for our children or our own best end. We have not curbed our love of killing enough and have put our full global habitat at risk of extinction. Stupid is as stupid does.





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DL

 

This is a psychologism. Killing isn't the epitome of personal drama; Loving is the epitome personal drama. Killing is simply easier and requires less investment.
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homo homini lupus est.
Man his is worst enemy. It's in our nature to kill each other.

 

Ask Cain and Able.

 

Who is delighted to kill? Some arm-chair general???

 

I don't think good men do- but of course, some men do.
In the natural world, the most violent animals, the ones who use violence not just for defense for food, but for control of others of their own kind- are our closest relatives, the chimpanzees.
Humans are, by nature- probably the most dangerous species ever to walk the earth, and may possibly become the only species ever to be totally responsible for their own extinction.
Our hope and goal is to rise above that, but it doesn't look promising.

 

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I detect a misuse of wording.

You love others for the drama. Explain please how love gives more drama than hate.

I know that both entertain, but war epics or battle scenes seem to have a larger following than love epics.

Note how most movies etc. are violence centered and not love centered.

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DL

 

PTSD seems to indicate otherwise. No?

Further, few animals will fight to the death, generally speaking, as that rather eliminates the losers chance at reproduction.

The winner of such conflicts will not generally chase and kill his challenger. The more he fights, the more chances of losing, which is not what instincts would have him do.

That has been my own personal experience in fights. If you have fought, I imagine that you would not chase a loser to just inflict more damage.

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DL

 

No. He sends our young to die.

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DL

 

It is bleak, I agree, but not hopeless yet.

To rise would take leadership and political will and in our divided world, that becomes quite hard.

I was disappointed when, Gretta, is that her name, when even after being applauded for berating us parents for ruining her future world, her audience just went back to their usual do nothing much mode.

I was raised to leave things better than when I found them, or at least intact.

That was good advice that most of us do not follow. Not necessarily because we want to but becvause our systems are set up for destruction instead of sustainability.

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DL

 

The personal drama of love is held within ourselves (usually) so it is less visible. Hate and killing appear to be more dramatic only because it is a more visual expression of emotion.

 

The military industrial complex is the most profitable scam on the planet. The difference between the MIC and the mob is that the mass murder committed is "legal". Those who earn massive profits don't actually do the killing, they enlist the gullible and ignorant (and often poor) fools to do the killing for them under the indoctrinated pretext of patriotism/defense of country. These fools are actually led to believe they need to commit genocide and/or other human rights atrocities for righteous and honorable cause(s). And risk life, limb and mind in the process.



"War is a racket." - Major General Smedley Butler, USMC
"Everything Hitler did was legal." - Martin Luther King Jr.

 

I would think the soldier is glad when he realizes that foreign soldier isn't going to get a chance to kill him.

 

The idea that man evolved from apes is a librl lie. Everyone knows God made man 6,000 years ago. Then he buried a bunch of dinosaur bones to test our faith.

 

If you know about quantum physics, the earth and existence could literally be 6000 years old.

I wouldn't expect most to even comprehend how such could be possible.

 

The arguments on the environment are deeply flawed. Not to say it's not changing, but to say we are doing nothing about it, and must trash the world we have now to save ourselves.
That's sky-is-falling panic, and that is a deadly condition.

Facts show we are doing a great deal- and have been working on the issues for 50 years, with an increasing rate of success.

Cars for example. 50 years ago averaged 12 MPG and burned that poorly and inefficiently. Today, the average is more like 30, and we burn it much more efficiently.
Appliances such as gas furnaces used to by 75% efficient, today they are 95%. All appliances are designed with energy conservation in mind.
The same is true of re-cycleables. Boxes, tires, a vast array of things are produced to maximize that.
Houses have far higher energy efficiencies. Windows for example, are now typically made with special glass that dramatically controls heat transfer.

Just in the last 30 days-
Reports have shown up on a new battery process- which, if it can be scaled to fit cars, will reduce the full-charge time requirement to 5 minutes.... as quick as pumping gas.
When that is in place, combustion engines will be obsolete.

Another report documents a breakthrough in the pursuit of fusion energy, using a vastly more productive method with far simpler processes and very low heat. If that is scaled up, it promises an end to all fossil fuel power plants as well as nuclear.

The list of such things being done right now is very long, and getting bigger faster and faster. The people who rant and demand that we destroy what keeps us running today and funnel all money toward their immediate fears only delays the process that is already underway- and that could be the actual effect that makes the worst results happen. That is something to fear- having screwed ourselves listening to extremists who demand miracles today, at any price.

I think most people, at least mature ones, want to leave the world better than we found it. Science and technology is moving rapidly in that direction- but the capacity and comprehension of people is another thing. I think people are less capable than they were 50 years ago. Instead of being the best we can be, too many of us simply blame society for not making their lives easier- even though their lives are easier than all past generations. We're becoming lazier, more irresponsible and selfish that ever. If you can figure out how to fix that- or how to get people out there promoting the effort- let me know. Damn few are as interested in what they put in to society as in what they get out.

 

Exactly what do you base your opinion on? Did you ever serve in combat? I have and I didn't know anyone who enjoyed killing other people!
Unfortunately, it is a part of war and once soldier realizes that his choice is either him, or them. then the choice of him becomes the obvious choice!
Every soldier in combat fights another battle, rather they are consciously, or unconsciously aware of it and this the battle to not let yourself cross the line and lose your sense of humanity! The majority of us come home with PTSD and horrific nightmares of the violence and killing!

 

I think you just made my point.

The visual shows the internal thinking.

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DL

 

I would need to see more of that speech to see what he qualified his statement with. Context is everything.

If he said legal in Germany, I could agree, Hitler was the law, just as Trump seems to be in the U.S. where his crimes are legal because he is the chief.

If MLK said f he said moral, then he was an immoral fool. IMO.

I enjoyed your link. A good find with a lot of truth.

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DL

 

The honor of killing anonymously is dishonor given all the collateral damage.

What would you think if, for instance, the earth was under fire like that from some alien race?

To many, the U.S. is an alien race, and not a well respected one at that.

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DL

 

Strange that a god who knows everything, including the results of any test, would still bother testing.

God needs a better make work project instead of wasting his valuable time, while he sits in his timeless place.

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DL

 

Thanks for this.

I agree that much is being done, but science is spending more on Mars and other useless projects and want to terraform Mars while we do not even know how to repair our own earth.

Even with all the work some are doing, it is not enough to even slow down the yearly gains that are assaulting our environment.

Even fusion energy is creating problems for the environment as they do not know where or how to store waste effectively for the thousands of years for the decaying process to make it safe.

We need less teck and pollution in our lifestyles. Not more.

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DL

 

PTSD is a modern phenomenon. It's the result of imposing silly rules that makes the soldiers always question themselves on their actions. Without those restraint, man can adapt to anything. Look at how the germans and japanese made war compared to the USA in recent time. Who do you think suffered the most from PTSD?

 

Water wells, building standards, sanitation standards, wastewater treatment, preservation of wetlands and natural resources, national and state parks, hunting regulations, research and development in science and medicine, hospitals, clinics, medical colleges, law enforcement, EMT's, ecological regulations, manufacturing regulations, nuclear regulations, government, human rights. Seems to me that man does care and sacrifice for humanity and the earth. And is actively and fervently involved in its continuance at all times.

 

Which makes my point that we are not made to kill each other.

I base my opinion on the fact that we have a history of almost constant war for the last 5,000 years.

If it is not love of killing and war that keeps us in this pattern, why do you think our history last 5,000 years of history is so filled with those?

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DL