Hezbollah - American Forces Surrounded In Iraq

Watched it...not that interesting as it was pretty partisan. Why he even took a shot at the legitimate election of Bush, cute.

No one should be surprised......

"Clark joined the 2004 race for the Democratic Party presidential nomination as a candidate in 2003, but withdrew from the primary race in 2004, after winning the Oklahoma state primary, endorsing and campaigning for the eventual Democratic nominee, John Kerry. Clark leads a political action committee, "WesPAC", which he formed after the 2004 primaries[1][2] and used to support Democratic Party candidates in the 2006 midterm elections.[3] Clark was considered a potential candidate for the Democratic nomination in 2008, but, on September 15, 2007, endorsed Senator Hillary Clinton.[4] After Clinton dropped out of the presidential race, Clark endorsed the then-presumptive Democratic nominee, Barack Obama.[5] Clark served as a co-chairman of Growth Energy, an ethanol lobbying group,[6][7] and is on the board of directors of BNK Petroleum.[8] Between July 2012 and November 2015, he was an honorary special advisor to Romanian prime minister Victor Ponta on economic and security matters.[9][10]"

So he is a liberal telling unconfirmable liberal slanted stories.

Now what about what I posted? Anything to refute that?

 

Not hard to jog your memory. Search Google for "Iraq Invasion Of Kuwait"
Good place to start to learn...

 

Is that what the U.S. brought to Iraq ....... decorcracy? And here was me thinking all they brought was deeth and destruption.

 

The idea of a Christian Crusade is ridiculous. The only religious wars going on, are the wars against Christianity. Christians are the most persecuted people in the world, whether it's by atheist China, EU secularism, Muslim fundamentalism, Israeli Orthodox Jews and Hindu nationalists.

 

The price of freedom and democracy is high after decades of dictatorship. You maybe expect a peaceful transition?

Too bad they could not just flip that "Dictator / Democracy " switch.....

 

That was bush 1.

 

The "peaceful transition" was already in progress thanks to the United Nations. The U.S. WMD hoax, illegal invasion, torture at Abu Graib and Guantanamo, and death of a million innocent men, women, and children stopped the "peaceful transition" in its tracks, destroyed thousands of years of history, and introduced a wave of treachery worse than anything known to man which continues to this very day. Is it "freedom and democracy" you see in Iraq today? So what "price" did you pay for that never-ending war?

 

Crusades has a bad connotation in the ME, and Bush shouldn't have used the world. He realized it afterwards. The connotation in the ME is wrong also, since the Crusades were called by the Pope at the request of the Byzantine Emperor. He wanted to free his people and lands from the Turks since they wouldn't allow pilgrimages to the religious sites.

What happened later on with the clash of cultures, and the greed of the European nobility is a different story. It was not though the intent of the Crusade.

 

It was not.

What a load of mistruths.

The international inspectors were not allowed to inspect, US aircraft were routinely hit by Iraqi radar etc..peaceful transition...

Using the word Saddam and peaceful in the same sentence gives away your lack of understanding of what occurred.

“and introduced a wave of treachery worse than anything known to man”

The imbecilic level of that comment....

Have you read a single history book? Ever?

 

800 years ago, that was when “The Crusades” ended. Anybody still offended by them (on either side as both sides were at fault) needs to move on.

Trying to use the word Crusade to show this was religious in nature is silly.

 

I agree that's it's not the worse treachery, we've surpassed it recently. I think the worse was telling the people not to leave Mosul before bombing the terrorists, and that we had precision bombs. Then we bombed them and the city into the stone age. Dresden comes to mind. The stench from the thousands of corpses was strong even after 6 months.

Of course it was not for nothing. Trump said he will not help to rebuild the city unless they hand over the oil. Mafia tactics? Worse I think!

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Never judge a tree by its stature,

nor the power and the name it wears.
Ones judgement should only come,
by the merits of the fruit it bears.
(My version) - Jeannette


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Just to be clear...

You think the that was the "worst" treachery in what? Middle Eastern history? Modern times? American History? World History?

Dresden was a legitimate bombing target. It was part of the Reich, the city support the Reich, it was full of people who supported the Reich. Destroying it speed up the end of the war and thus saved Allied lives.

The men who manned the panes that leveled it were heroes for facing the danger in doing so.

Can I assume you think Nagasaki and Hiromasa were war crimes too?

 

It's that turn the other cheek thing I betcha.

 

I would not trust muslim or christian religious fanatics, but in real life, the christians and muslims I interact with are good people for the most part

 

the Bush Crusade is still going on today... has not ended yet

and yet the Jihad is still going on today, has not ended yet

the religious fanatics of both religions need to just give it up, let people believe what they want to believe

 

Right now we are the worse criminals on the planet. Millions have been maimed and died because of our actions. I don't know if it reached the level of the Nazis or Bolsheviks, but we're getting close. The indifference our government has towards human life is the same though.

Do you have children or grandchildren? If you do, do you think they should be killed or maimed because of our government's crimes? I certainly wouldn't want mine killed, nor any other innocent, but they will be. That hole in the ground is not going to save them - not from a nuclear bomb, nor from a rumbling earth.

Best to pull your nose out of the MSM and find out what is going on. You'll have to look hard though, any site that goes against Washington's narrative has been knocked off youtube.

 

Push come to shove I think I would rather be captured by radical Christians than radical Muslims. Better chance of keeping my 'wits' about me.

 

Bush Crusade? What are you babbling about? How many Muslims have we forced to convert upon the penalty of death under this Crusade you think exist?

Are you not going to address the Kuwait invasion? The violation of the ceasefire by Iraq? Both which are the reasons we are in Iraq.

 

We are winning the war against Terrorism but losing the War against Communism in the USA !!!

 

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And yet they let you post "da truth" huh?

What a absolute load of emotional rubbish.

 

The Crusades were both at fault
The Muslims- prevented Christian pilgrams
Christian- pope wanted to spread his influence into that region.

Many Warriors from the Viking days that needed to be let loose

 

Chesty F.ing Puller..

Greatest Fighting Withdrawal in military history. Pure guts and determination.

 

there is video of Bush saying it....

we are in Iraq because of Bush jr...

 

I am not of either religion, so I would not want to be captured by either sides fanatics