Hezbollah - American Forces Surrounded In Iraq

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  1. Poohbear

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    Iraq came close. Were it not for Israel Iraq would have become a nuclear
    power. First to get it would have been Iran, then the Gulf states would
    have cowered. Iraq would have then become an empire and inevitably
    gone up against Israel. This would have threatened the whole fabric of
    the Middle East and drawn in America and Russia.
     
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    Exactly. The illegal invasion of Irak (by the fake WMD scare) had nothing to do with combatting Irak in the First Gulf War which was legal and just.


    Are you saying it was not about oil?

    I cannot see a solid idea in what you've written and it is impossible to see what is on your mind. Maybe, just maybe you are saying that diplomatic efforts by the U.N. did not bring about an improvement in the Middle East and the conduct of Saddam Hussein? If that is your theme then you'd be wrong because U.N. pressure on Saddam culminated in Iraq destroying its WMD's ...... you know, the ones the U.S. claimed were not destroyed in order for the U.S. to illegally invade Iraq on false pretences.
     
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    Here is some friendly advice; :arrow: If you own the biggest weapon in town you can use it to either endear yourself to your neighbours by sharing the security that weapon might offer or you can threaten everyone with it and create enemies. If you employ the first alternative then good for you! But if you choose the second scenario then do not squawk if your neighbours do everything they can to acquire their own weapon that is either equally devasting as yours or even more powerful. This is pretty basic stuff and it should go without saying but I get the impression that you haven't yet understood it.
     
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    Oh sure, I understand that what defines the threat of a nuclear weapon isn't its yield
    but its owner. I am not bothered by France or England having a bomb, but when Nth
    Korea, Iraq, Iran all get the bomb then watch out.
    When Iran gets The Bomb then overnight Turkey, Egypt and Saudi get it too. You can
    more or less kiss the nuclear non-proliferation treaty goodbye. Then Libya, Yemen,
    Bahrain, Lebanon, Syria etc all get The Bomb.
    And the two nation thwarting this treaty with regards to Nth Korea - China and Russia,
    will find their enemies Sth Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Ukraine etc all go nuclear. Then life
    will be interesting.
     
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    Yeah. Right. And Islam is a passive, peaceful, tolerant, totalitarian theology.

    Come on, you have to realize that reality makes that statement of yours absurd.
     
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    Restricted them from what? Their missile program never slowed down and they still fund terrorist organizations in the region. They didn't destroy any centrifuges and were still allowed to enrich uranium for peaceful ? use. What Obama gave them was relief from the sanctions that strangled them and a new bestest buddy in the WH.

    We might have been better not to have killed Saddam and we sure as hell shouldn't have killed Gaddafi, I'll grant you those.
     
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    Lived it. Saw it develop and conclude while in uniform. Where is my post incorrect?
     
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    How would the left have handled the invasion of Kuwait?

    Strong words and hugs?

    What prophecies are you rambling about?

    What a truly poor attempt to deflect.
     
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    And that is the difference between you and a decent human being.
     
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    Except the crusades were a good thing..
     
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    Then explain why you made this most adolescent comment ..... :below: :below: :below:
    Your post is entirely incorrect. You have been fed a sack full of lies which is easily understandable because you were "in uniform". American BS propaganda is at its most concentrated when brain-washed to soldiers.

    And I wonder where your response is to my post on "the international WMD inspection team" in Irak? Cat got your tongue?
     
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    WTH are you babbling about? You are denying the invasion occurred? What sack of lies have I've been feed? How was I brain washed?
    At least be clear in your insane accusations if your going to invent them.

    What post about inspections did I dodge, what post #?


    I was a Marine, not a Solider for the record.
     
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    You are saying this was the reason for the war against Iraq - it gaining nukes and stopping Israel being the Imperial power in the area it would seem. Israel had already destroyed Iraq's nukes. Saying it had them again was a lie and this was made quite clear to our politicians by our Intelligence. They said Iraq was not a danger to us. Iran much more and then they were asked to go away and bring back something to justify war with Iraq -when there was none. You appear to be going by the Clean Break strategy.
     
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    You and the west, in general, are not bothered by France or England having a bomb because those two nations have already been castrated by the U.S. and are being held hostage by NATO membership. In short, they have no testicles.

    North Korea, Irak and Iran plus a few others (Russia and China) still have their heuvos hooked on. They will not say “Yes sir!” and “yes ma'am!” when Washington wants them to join in on illegal shenanigans across the globe and they are well aware that the biggest threat to their (and the world's) peace is the U.S.

    Part of this must certainly be true and the rest is just imaginative supposition … but your point is clear and it is worth noting and worth considering. But none of it is a consequence of their own doing. I said it before and I'll say it again ….. If you threaten everyone with your superior weaponry then the nations of the world will do everything they can to acquire their own weapon that is either equally devastating as yours or even more powerful. So … who is to blame for those “watch out” nations wanting to protect themselves from you?
     
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    It is clear that you have no idea what you are talking about and you are unwilling or incapable of learning anything on the subject. I have wasted my breath on you and I probably won't waste any more of my time on you.
     
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    France and England are not threating to wipe other countries off the Earth like North Korea and Iran have done. Pretty easy difference to see between those cases.

    Since it's "you and the West" you aiming your post to I think it would help if we knew where you were from? Care to share? It might help us understand your point of view better.
     
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    You deny a barbaric invasion of Kuwait by Iraq, one of the most documented invasions in history. Then refuse to comment on that invasion in anyway at all. Which in itself shows more about you than any post could.

    Please do go away. May I suggest Highway 80, I hear it's a good escape route.
     
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    You deny a barbaric invasion of Kuwait by Iraq, one of the most documented invasions in history. Then refuse to comment on that invasion in anyway at all. Which in itself shows more about you than any post could.

    Please do go away. May I suggest Highway 80, I hear it's a good escape route.
     
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    No the difference between me and someone who falls for big government nonsense and the transfer of our wealth to the bankers, government contractors, politicians and bureaucrats, the most evil people on the planet, thinking he is spreading some kind of goodness in he world.
     
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    Oh, your one of those.

    Kroger has tin foil on sale this week, might wanna stock up.
     
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    And you'll scratch your head when every last vestige of liberty is stripped from you by the very same big government
     
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    Do you have to remove the tinfoil cap to scratch your head?
     
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    Don't cry when the big gov takes your guns, controls your speech, dictates your healthcare, digitally controls all of your savings and financial transactions, serves you an international currency, and taxes your balls off.
    You'll be part of the reason they're doing so.
     
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    WTH are you on about now?

    That the foolish children on the left trying to bring that to America, and I am not one of them.
     
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    They will bring it, because of the people who think they are conservatives yet can't sniff out big government, new world order collectivism, even when it's under their noses
     
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