Nevada Caucus Results

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  1. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree. I doubt there is any love for Komrad Bernie the disrupter in the democrat party. I am surprised one of the Clintons haven't taken him out to dinner and a midnight yacht ride.
     
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    She needs to go.
     
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    I absolutely agree as far as delegates.

    And, consider States where 45% of the Voters are Black and the vote is split along racial lines (in a 2-Person race).

    The Minority would end up with Zero Delegates. Not fair.


    If the EC was broken down by CD in 2016.

    Trump would've gotten 290 EV.

    Since he won 230 CD and 30 States (where he would've picked up the Extra 2).
     
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    Klobuchar was also bragging about never losing an election to her remaining followers yesterday. I guess primaries and caucuses are excluded from "elections" now. How convenient.

    She is still pegged to win Minnesota. I guess she can count that one and say she "never lost an election....in her state".
     
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  6. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you break down the Electoral College by congressional district, there would be no reason to vote for President. Your district's winner for House of Representatives and Senator might as well cast the ballots as electors.
     
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    The guy who who's horse face pony soldier!!! No I refuse to believe that jk jk

    Really the fact that Sanders is betting Biden should leave him with a black mark on his record if he truly believes what he said for all those years
     
  8. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We are not some damned Parliamentary system
    We can split our President and Legislative preference.


    Just assign electors by the presidential preference of this or that congressional district.


    Moi :oldman:





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  9. LoneStarGal

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    Yes, I understand how to calculate a weighted average. :)

    So, explain how Sanders won the popular vote by 6,100 over Buttigieg in Iowa, but got one less delegate than Buttigieg. The DNC formulas for proportioning delegates are not that straightforward.

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    With 6 to 20 candidates running in a primary, breaking the allocation down into congressional districts versus winner-take-all greatly increases the risk of the top candidate winning a plurality, but not a clear majority. Someone winning the contest without a majority presents problems. Someone could win several states with only 20% of the vote. That non-majority vote is exactly the DNC's current dilemma if this goes to a brokered convention.

    You'd have to have multiple run-off elections until someone got 50% or people would not think the election was fair. It's hard enough to get people out to the polls for one vote.
     
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    It may be serving you but you are not the majority not being served. A service sector based economy does not create large middle classes and we have such an economy because of that giant sucking sound perot warned us about. The choice made by the GOP and then the dems agreed to it disemboweled America and insured the demise of our middle.

    Some people like you are fine with what happened but you are not most working Americans. And it does matter what form of capitalism is being used. For the current kind has given us a model that impoverishes the same kind of people that the old model allowed to prosper by their work.

    The big picture view matters. Optimum prosperity from work matters and its importance cannot be over estimated .

    If the form of capitalisn being employed does not serve the greatest number of our people then it must be changed back to what did regardless of how well it serves you personally. The old form would still serve you but also an additional hundred million of other people too.
     
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    the most populated county in Iowa had an average of one state delegate for every 154 voters. In rural Fremont County, the ratio was one state delegate for every 45 caucusgoers.

    This means that a voter in a rural area can be worth three times as much as a voter in Des Moines, skewing the map in favor of candidates who are unlike Sanders (who enjoys high support in younger, more liberal cities) and towards candidates like Buttigieg (who enjoys high support among more conservative white voters).

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-won-iowa-popular-vote-buttigieg-electoral-college-2020-2

    Google is your friend. :salute:
     
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    Sez you!
    :angered:
     
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    Exactly. That sounds fair. Go DNC! :)
     
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    You misunderstood me. The DNC doesn't want Sanders to win.
     
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    Right. Neither does the majority of Dem voters. Do they placate Sanders, who has the lead with 29% of the national popular vote....or do they have delegates from more moderate campaigns consolidate to select a moderate nominee (and risk violent riots)?

    Wouldn't want to be the DNC "leadership" this year!
     
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    and brevity..........No.
     
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    "Readiness"? Says who? We spend 15% of the budget on the highest priority of the United States government or defense and national security. How big a military does it take to confront the Chinese in the Pacific and Asian perimeter, keep SK SK and not NK and Russia from moving further in to the baltic states all using military force at the same time and if one or more decided to make a decided military force requiring a military response while at the same time protecting our shores and our hemisphere and the ME from blowing up and causing those global percussions?
     
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    looks like Trump has already been asking Russia for a favor
     
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    the voters do, but your right, the establishment on both sides do not, Bernie would be a President for the people, can't have that
     
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    He's arming those countries and he got those other NATO countries to agree with him that they needed to beef up their defense spending and he never stood besides Putin while attacking IC officials who were abusing their power to overturn an election. He then opened out energy production while sanction Russia which I am sure Putin just loved. Putin would want nothing more than a Sanders to become president and is apparently working to accomplish that.
     
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    Now you are trolling. Banders would bankrupt the country in months. Even the most ignorant in the DNC understands this fact which is why they will find a way to derail his campaign.
     
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    It's gonna be Bernie!
     
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    Is it really a great day for democracy:

     
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