Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

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  1. yardmeat

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    And the only commendable thing Hitler ever did with his life was to end it himself.
     
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    You've certainly produced reams of documentary evidence that exposes the popular fairy tale as just nothing but lies. The George Carlin video is impressive and he would be viciously attacked by fanatics if he said those things today. They are working like crazy to maintain their lies and and keep control over the herd. A new propaganda center will open this fall in New Orleans = https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Muse...culture-to-open-in-New-Orleans-in-fall-618446
     
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    It is obvious that you think Churchill did a good thing by starving millions of Indians to death.
     
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    Read the inscription on the first plaque again. Nowhere does it say "4 million Jews". It clearly states "4 million people". Please explain why do you think that "people" must mean "Jews". Do you seriously believe that only Jews are people?

    From the same link:
    The article is clearly structured as quotes from Holocaust denying sources and answers that debunk the deniers' claims. Basic reading comprehension and minimal cognitive skills required.

    What is J-W?

    I'm confused. First you claim that Bolsheviks were Jews. Then you claim that all Jews lie about everything. Then you base your assertions on Russian microfilms made by communist Russia which in your opinion was led by Jews.

    Such a complicated world. I need a hug.
     
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    Adolf Hitler was nominated once in 1939. As unlikely as it may seem today, Adolf Hitler was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1939 by a member of the Swedish parliament, E.G.C. Brandt.

    Why? Because of the history your primer school didnt teach you!

    Adolf Hitler made unconditional offers of peace to all the nations of Europe—and how the major anti-German belligerents, France and Britain, turned down these offers each and every time.

    The author lists all of Hitler’s offers [for peace] in detail, complete with quotes, starting with:

    his first offer [for peace] of May 17, 1933,

    his second offer [for peace] of December 18, 1933,

    his third offer [for peace] of May 21, 1935,

    his fourth offer [for peace] of March 31, 1936,

    his fifth offer [for peace] of September 30, 1938,

    his sixth offer [for peace] of December 6, 1938,

    his seventh offer [for peace] of late 1939 to Poland


    to settle the Danzig Corridor issue peacefully, and finally,

    his offer of [for] world peace on October 6, 1939,

    just over a month after Britain and France had declared war on Germany for invading Poland on September 1 (but not on the Soviet Union, which also invaded Poland on September 17).

    This edition benefits from four new sections which did not appear in the original publication. These are:

    - The full text of Hitler’s “Appeal for Peace and Sanity” speech, made before the Reichstag on July 19, 1940, following the fall of France. In that speech, Hitler once again offered unconditional peace to Britain. This speech was printed in English and dropped by the tens of thousands from German aircraft over Britain.

    Although nearly half the British cabinet wanted to take up his offer, Churchill’s warmongering put an end to this final offer of peace

    Hitler was also on the front of Time magazine as man of the year!

    [​IMG]

    You have no clue why, even though I just told you.
     
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    [Some] of the most notorious Communists were members of the tribe: “Iron Lazar” Kaganovich, Stalin’s brutal henchman; Jakub Berman, head of the Polish secret police; Romania’s Ana Pauker (“Stalin in a skirt”); and of course Exhibit A, Leon Trotsky. Like most of the other Red firebrands, Lev Davidovich Bronstein declared his Jewish identity meaningless. But maybe it wasn’t. For one thing, Communism promised to solve the Jewish question in a way that other movements could not.

    Claiming no evidence therefore its not true is laughable, you suck that crap up, really?

    Such estimates are arrived at by comparing pre-war census data with population estimates [not census data! Estimates made by the same J-Ws that started the war!] made after World War II. The Germans, though they treated their plan for annihilation of the Jews as a state secret of the highest order, also kept scrupulous records of deportations and gassings, which also serve as a vital source of data.

    All make believe bullshit, they made it all up. LOL

    The data is all unofficial bunk, trumped up by the same J-Ws that started the war FFS!

    No one has ever found any plans to systematic genocide of the J-Ws. All LIes!

    Now tell me about your conspiracy theory that the nazis has a secret dick tracy plan! LOL

    We did however find the Zio-J-W plans to holocaust the geramans, dresden, a nonmilitary defenseless town 1/2 million burned alive in less than 12 hours.

    We Know that no gassing took place, so where are the six million corpses? Now J-Ws gotta cook up a believable LIE how all these millions of J-Ws got exterminated since it wasnt by gas!


    Allied Military Police

    NO GASSING

    [​IMG]

    It was proven not only by the US Criminal Forensic Expert Charles Larsen, and Britains Barton, way back in 1945 and a memo circulated to the police centers in 1948 that no gassing took place, yet the Marxi-Zio-Commie J-Ws evangelize spreading massive propaganda and LIES.



    Witnesses to the Gas Chambers of Auschwitz
    By Robert Faurisson
    Published: 1993-01-01

    My first trial took place in 1981, followed by the appeal in 1983. Not one single
    [self declared] witness took the risk of appearing in court.

    On April 26, 1983, the Paris Court of Appeal rendered its verdict. Naturally, I was found guilty, as one might have expected, for "harm to others" which is in fact to say for harm caused to Jews for the exposition of my theses in the mainstream press. Yet the court coupled this verdict with remarks sufficient to cause my adversaries a fair degree of consternation. My work was judged to be serious and yet dangerous. It was dangerous because, in the opinion of the judges, it appeared I allowed other persons the possibility of exploiting my discoveries for reprehensible ends!

    All the while, this same work was serious in the sense that, in the opinion of the court, one could uncover neither negligence, frivolousness, willful ignorance, nor lies - and this contrary to what had been affirmed by the adversarial party, which had accused me of "causing harm to others by falsification of history." (sic)

    On the subject of testimonies, the court went so far as to pronounce:

    "The researches of Mr. Faurisson have dealt with the existence of the gas chambers which, to believe multiple testimonies, would have been used during the Second World War to systematically put to death a portion of those persons deported by the German authorities." (my emphasis)

    The court perfectly summarized what it called my "logical thread" and my "reasoning" by specifying that, for me,

    "[...] the existence of the gas chambers, such as usually described since 1945, conflict with an absolute impossibility, which suffices by itself to invalidate all the existing testimonies or, at the least, to stamp them with suspicion."

    Finally, the court, drawing a practical conclusion from these considerations, decreed the right of every Frenchman not to believe in the evidence and witnesses of the gas chambers. It stated:

    "The value of the conclusions defended by Mr. Faurisson [as to the problem of the gas chambers] rests therefore upon the sole appreciation of the experts, the historians and the public."

    Two weeks later, Simone Veil publicly reacted to this judicial decision - upsetting for her and her co-religionists - with a declaration of extreme importance. She admitted the absence of proofs, of traces and even witnesses of the gas chambers, but added this absence was easily explained because:

    "Everyone knows [she asserts] that the Nazis destroyed these gas chambers and systematically eradicated all the witnesses." :icon_shithappens::icon_shithitsthefan

    To begin with, "everyone knows" is not an argument worthy of a jurist. Furthermore, Simone Veil, believing perhaps to be getting out from behind the eight-ball, made her case only worse; in effect, in order to uphold what she was claiming, it would have been necessary for her to prove not only that the gas chambers had existed but that the 'Nazis' had destroyed them and that they liquidated all the witnesses: a vast criminal undertaking about which one wonders on what order, when, with whom and by what means the Germans would have carried it out in greatest secrecy.

    But what does it matter? We shall take note of this concession by S. Veil: there is neither proof, nor traces, nor witnesses to the gas chambers.

    It so happens that, in trying to reassure her circle, S. Veil clothed this surprising concession with conventional parlance. Here is, therefore, in her own words, what she confided in an interview-event for France-Soir Magazine (May 7, 1983, p. 47), of which the title was: "Simone Veil's warning in regard to Hitler's diaries: 'We risk banalizing genocide'":

    By Robert Faurisson
    1993-01-01

    This people is why the Marxi-Zio-Commies will never provide any court worthy particulars for their claims, they are all houses of cards, every last bit of it to impose our culture and undermine our governments by subterfuge to gain illegitimately leveraged political power. Everything these people preach is based in fraud. The official records have been out there for a very long time, and pretended not to exist. Take note, the Rothschilds are no longer in the banking business, which means they buried it so deep in trusts no one (not even governments) will be able to afford to root up the truth.
     
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    Marxi-Zio-Commie zealots have lots of splainin to do. If not by gas then how? Where are all the corpses? Fire pits leave lots of human remains, trying to burn bodies that are 95% water takes huge amounts of fuel, (that germany did not have).
    Tell me a story, this is going to be a good one!

    :popcorn:

    Oh and btw, how do you murder the enemy that declared war on you?

    Hitler already gave them a holiday camp!

    [​IMG]
    Jewish holocaust survivors that tell the 'truth' about the auschwitz holiday camp:





    [New York Times on August 7, 1933: Untermeyer spokesman on behalf of American Jewery declares a HOLY WAR against Germany]

    "The Jews of the world now declare a Holy War against Germany. We are now engaged in a sacred conflict against the Germans.
    And we are going to starve them into surrender. We are going to use a world-wide boycott against them, that will destroy them because they are dependent upon their export business."


    Jews of the world declared a boycott against Germany, and it was so effective that you couldn't find one thing in any store anywhere in the world with the words "made in Germany" on it.

    Now up to that time, not one hair on the head of any Jew had been hurt in Germany. There was no suffering, there was no starvation, there was no murder, there was nothing.

    Now, that ... naturally, the Germans said, "Why, who are these people to declare a boycott against us and throw all our people out of work, and our industries come to a standstill? Who are they to do that to us?" They naturally resented it. Certainly they painted swastikas on stores owned by Jews.

    [The Jews drew first blood]

    The Jews of the world, the Zionists and their co-religionists everywhere, are determined that they are going to again use the United States to help them permanently retain Palestine as their foothold for their world government. Now, that is just as true as I am standing here, because not alone have I read it, but many here have read it, and it's known all over the world.


    Once again, how does one murder the enemy that declares war against you?
     
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    The Zionists were domestic enemies of Germany. They needed the Nazis as their enemy so that they could get the lower class German Jews to move to Palestine and build it up so that the upper class Zionists could arrive in comfort. The problem was that the lower class Jews didn't want to leave Germany to live in the Palestine desert. Their plan was written by Theodor Herzl in his The Jewish State book. It is a good read that explains the master plan in detail, which is still being followed to this day. Read it if you haven't. It is available for free on the internet at the Jewish Virtual Library site.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's become glaringly obvious that all of your slanderous nonsense about "neo Nazis", "Nazi apologists" etc are obvious and transparent evasions from the simple questions I asked based on physical & mathematical impossibilities.

    To even the casual viewer, the two sources I cited are clearly not "Neo Nazi blogs". That's just another transparent excuse to evade producing an honest answer. The 2 sources I cited (1), (2) simply state the sorts of outrageous, mainstream claims that holocaustians blindly believe to reach the inflated death tolls of about 6 million Jews and 5 million others killed.

    So, let's try this exercise again.

    Do you believe that 3 people can fit into a space of 1 square foot(1) and do you believe it was possible to gas and cremate 20,000 per day at Auschwitz in mid 1944 as is claimed in holocaust lore?

    If you don't believe either of these physical impossible parts, then your grossly inflated whole figure of about 11 million killed cannot be possible.

    Finally, far more people around the world reject the standard holocaust narrative than actually believe it(3).
    This is not because they're all "Neo Nazis" and "anti Semites" as self righteous holocaustians claim but because they possess the critical thinking skills to recognize a grotesque & grossly exaggerated, profit driven deception with a history of lying and fraudulence(4)




    (1) "Ruins of Bunker 2"
    https://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Birkenau/RuinsBunker2.html

    EXCERPTS "As the four photos above show, Bunker 2 was divided into four small rooms which had the capacity to kill 1,200 Jews at a time, according to Laurence Rees, the author of "Auschwitz, a New History."

    According to a book entitled "The Bombing of Auschwitz: Should the Allies Have Attempted It?" by Michael J. Neufeld and Michael Berenbaum, Bunker 2 was 56 feet long and 27 feet wide. Each of the four gas chamber rooms was 14 feet by 7"CONTINUED


    (2) “THE CAMPS”
    https://www.bxscience.edu/ourpages/auto/2012/3/1/36224384/holocaust - the camps.htm

    EXCERPT “ One group went to the gas chambers within a few hours; these people were sent to the Birkenau camp, where more than 20,000 people could be gassed and cremated each day. “ CONTINUED


    (3) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

    This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED


    (4). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.”CONTINUED
     
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    That people haven't learned about an event is certainly not an argument against the event having happened.

    In the US, teaching about the holocaust is politically problematic. So the fact that younger generations don't know about it is hardly surprising.
     
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    Palestinians certainly object to Jews, as Jews are stealing their land, bulldozing their olive orchards, driving people from their homes, stealing water rights, and in a well organized fashion are carrying out ethnic cleansing.

    Regardless of why anyone thinks Jews have a right to do that, it's certainly going to lead to hatred that will last many, many generations - much like the holocaust is lasting today.
     
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    How do you define a "Jew"? Technically, Jesus was a Judean, someone with roots to the southern tribe of Judah, with Judea being the land of Judah.

    The word "Jew" wasn't even in existence until about the 14th century, so I've never seen it as having much relevance to the Judean traditions of the 1st century. It seems to me you're trying to define 1st century Judeanism by a 14th century slang word.

    https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/why-are-jews-called-jews-1.5410757
     
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    Thats why you have people saying such things about them and why every country on the planet begs them to come in and settle.

    'Judaism is not a religion at all. It's a license to lie, cheat, steal, rob, exploit, prostitute, enslave, destroy, torture, murder. as long as the victim is not Jewish. It's a mental disease somewhere in between bipolar disorder and psychopathy. It's the membership in a terrorist, satanic cult.' -Andrew Winkler, Editor/Publisher, ZioPedia -

    "Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." -- Menachem Begin (Israeli Prime Minister, 1977-1983. Nobel Prize Winner for...Peace!)

    couple interesting quotes
     
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    It is not like they try to hide their disdain for Gentiles but most Gentiles seem to be willfully blind to it.
     
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    Every single religion in the world thinks it is head and shoulders better than all the rest. Every. Single. One. When the Jews start putting the Baptists into death camps you might have a legitimate bitch.....
     
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    Now watch, The next post will be about Jews killing Baptists somewhere.

    These people are about as credible as Flat Earthers but far less entertaining
     
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    That is what they say they want to do in the Bible.
     
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    If you'll read the full article, you'll see that more people around the world do know about the Holocaust but simple don't believe the outrageous claims made by the Holocaust Industry - Lobby. Only 1/3 of those who do know about the holocaust actually believer the standard holocaust narrative.

    Re:
    Not anymore as the Holocaust Industry has successfully pressured Congress to pass the taxpayer funded Holocaust education bill:


    "On Remembrance Day, US House overwhelmingly passes Holocaust education bill"
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/on-re...erwhelmingly-passes-holocaust-education-bill/

    EXCERPT "The legislation was widely supported by the organized American Jewish community.

    “We are pleased that the House has taken action today, on International Holocaust Remembrance Day, to ensure that the lessons of the Holocaust will be passed from one generation to the next,” said Jonathan Greenblatt, head of the Anti-Defamation League.

    “We look forward to this law’s swift passage and to working closely with teachers and districts across the country to ensure that Holocaust education is uniform and consistent across the country.”CONTINUED

    ----------------------------------

    Thanks,
     
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    That would be easy to challenge in court, if you can find one thats not on the J-W payroll.
     
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    I'll do one more homework assignment for you, when I have time. But the fact that you are constantly repeating neo-Nazi talking points that I've already debunked isn't promising. Set the neo-Nazi propaganda aside for a second and just. Try. Thinking. How does financial fraud prove the Holocaust didn't happen? It doesn't. That's a lie neo-Nazis spun to hypnotize useful idiots. How does a poll of how many people have heard of the Holocaust or believe in it prove anything about whether or not it happened? It doesn't. That's a lie neo-Nazis spun to hypnotize useful idiots. As for the gas chamber "math," I'll look into it and get back to you, but the fact that you are stringing different estimates from different sources together for your claim isn't a good sign of intellectual honesty. I'd be curious where you are copy/pasting this from. You should question their honesty. Oops, sorry, didn't mean to "slander" neo-Nazis.
     
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    The obvious lesson is to leave no survivors.
     
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    Your reading comprehension failures are not on me.
     
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    If thats what you got out of that its pretty clear who has the comprehension issues.

    and you quoted this:
    and didnt respond to it?

    and you quoted this:
    and didnt respond to it?

    and you quoted this:
    and didnt respond to it?

    and you quoted this:
    and didnt respond to it?


    So you dodge rest of Grau's points and respond with marxi-Zio.Commie talking points. Thats the best you got?

    What about all those official documents I posted proving the holocaust is nothing more than a big lie? No copy paste zio- commie comments?
     
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    yardmeat still hasn't denounced and renounced the Jewish Babylonian Talmud, which indicates that she/he believes everything in it. And we know how nasty it is.
     

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