If geneticists and psychologists can't convince you of evolutionarily inherited genetic psychological predispositions, then I certainly can't either.
So you cherry pick two examples that support your personal hypothesis and dismiss the thousands that do not! Convenient. Agreed!
The Psychology Today opinion piece was written by a neuroscientist on a subject outside his field. He stated "socio-political organizations of populations in state-run societies that are designed to suppress violence and respond to it, act to inhibit the innate, genetically-predisposed propensity of people to kill each other." I disagree we have a genetic propensity to kill each other. We can potentially be violent if we feel threatened and that is one way of diminishing that threat, add the fact of our tool use and somebody's gonna get hurt bad. Cats have a genetic propensity to kill. They kill when they are not hungry for the fun of it. Hand a cat a gun and it will be happy to shoot every bird it sees and any other cat that wanders into its yard. And the other article states "societies can also modify our innate tendencies". They are not modifying our innate tendencies. They are changing nothing innate. They are reducing our need to use violence as a means of survival. Most modern men could go a lifetime without resorting to violence. We are not genetically inclined to kill.
Blaming the problem on the simplistic "bad parenting" is an opinion that I do not see the evidence for. I think its a little more complicated. Studies have shown boys have become radicalized regardless of there family characteristics and dynamics. As I said a red herring. Factors may include unemployment/underemployment, depression, search for identity, feeling disenfranchised or looking for social acceptability and generally feeling marginalized by the dominant society.
@UprightBiped You bring a valid point. White boys are just hit by a crisis that have hit young black males before them. I suppose it took more the form of high criminality for young black males, and more "let's flee the real world into videogames" for young white male. I'm not part of the redpill/mgtow community because I feel them as something that can get you downward, but it's quite surprizing how white/black/asian male get along well in those communities, globally (there is some exceptions).
That's not really adapted solutions, basically, you just says them "man up". When I speak about solutions, it's what could be organized. Effectively, spirituality is a solution, I agree on buddhism, but that's a personnal path, not something that could be applied on a large scale. They need to be less exposed to pornography, video games, social networks. On that it would need a nation/internationalwide information campaign. But pornography lobbies, and even more youtube, facebook twitter are extremly powerfull, and it would be difficult to inform about the danger on mental health of social networks, more difficult than it was to inform about the danger of tobboco. I suppose that a part of the solution would be in education, either in intellectual education, but also sport. First, I think that a lot of those young boys need male teachers, and more than that male mentors. However, those mentors need to be balanced, carefull, trustfull people. Such kind of people are not that numerous. About finding love, it is far to be a solution, more a problem. You have to be solid yourself before entering or ending to be demolished. There is maybe some wonderfull young girls, but also a lot of them are extremly toxics. A lot of young males have furthermore seen their fathers and uncles living painfull divorces, and that obviously greatly eroded their confidence in the opposite sex. Males interrogate themselves more and more on their relationship with women, and movements like MGTOW, redpill, incels are definitevely growing stronger. I don't support them. I would make an exception about a minority of mgtows that seems determined to find happiness within them rather in relationships. Them, they're interesting. However, the rest of the movement, even if they bring an important question, is in my opinion, not a solution as they please themselves way too much in grievance and anger. When I said there is no solutions, I didn't told my whole thought, there is solutions, but neither democrats, republicans or anybody wish to act on those problems, and there is absolutly no political wish for solving the problem, even less the budget. With a country that crumble under debts, youth, and even less male youth would never be the priority. Even the opposite, any politicians that would want to invest on those problems, would get a strong counter reaction from a large part of feminists, but not all. Some could be supportive.
if you asked them [racist white boys] or even the far right politicians, theyll tell you its due to a lack of identity, or rather a loss of identity as to why they hold such extremist views.
Knock yourself out https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-demography-of-the-alt-right https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU00/20190409/109266/HHRG-116-JU00-20190409-SD011.pdf https://www.propublica.org/article/...white-supremacist-group-hiding-in-plain-sight https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/brotherhood-of-losers/544158/ Already cited earlier: https://datasociety.net/library/media-manipulation-and-disinfo-online/ Thanks, Google translate.
Donald Trump is the White Malcolm X if Malcolm X wasn't shot and ran for POTUS. Maybe Donald Trump being President might teach Donald Trump a thing or two? Who knows what life journey that billionaire's going through.
Are you calling Malcolm X a sociopathic con man? Do you think an amoral human can learn anything about ethics? More to the to the point of the OP: "To the unhappy forum dwellers who identified themselves as “beta males” and neets (“not in education, employment, or training”), what the alt-right offered was a revalorized masculinity, a sense of purpose, and a collective identity. Identity has become the coin of the realm in American culture, but one that’s not accessible to the heirs of white male hegemony. While everyone else was telling these young men to check their privilege, the alt-right was speaking powerfully to their Millennial woes—their diminished place in society, their dwindling economic prospects, their growing alienation. Asked recently what had attracted him to the far right, Frank Meeink, a former neo-Nazi, responded: “Just the belonging. Feeling like I was part of something.” https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/brotherhood-of-losers/544158/
"Patriotic Front" - is that a US group? Google only knows about groups by this name in other countries.
As I said (in french) don't you think getting rid of and repudiating toxic role models (Trump) will help?
I doubt it, the problem existed before Trump was even elected. The causes are much more deep to that. That's mistaking the cause and the consequence. I had even supposed that if Trump was impeached, it would radicalize them.
Speaking of redpill I have read of a theory that it is driven by young men on the low end of the sexual hierarchy totem pole making them involuntary celibates or incels. Their anger and frustration causes them to turn against women calling them cruel, shallow or "radical feminists" and with the more unstable threatening rape or other forms of violence. The internet feeds on these insecure young men, feeding their ego, telling them it is the women's and society's fault they haven't yet formed a stable relationship with a member of the opposite sex when in reality it may take several attempts. They are being fed false information, and they like hearing it.
