America respected again, Thanks Trump.

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  1. HumbledPi

    HumbledPi Well-Known Member

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    The "picture"is from the very website you linked, I didn't create it. I added my responses on it.
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  2. struth

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    But you said you added specific responses, all you did was write leftwing talking point on the topics,that were links to specific facts....so, you didn't refute anything...all you did was spread left wing talking points, and ignored the fact...hence the alt-reality you live in
     
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    Yeah, kinda like the way the people liked the Emperor's New Clothes.
     
  4. God & Country

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    Yes he will and because of that anything shady will absolutely be coming from the Democrats and once elected Trump should do everything in his power to investigate, identify and prosecute everyone involved. They haven't received as much as a slap on the wrist for the Mueller thing and the Schiff and Nadler bullshit.
     
  5. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They laughed because he said his administration had accomplished more than any other in history. They thought it was wrong. But was it?


    How does having more people working at any times in our history, having the lowest unemployment for Blacks and Hispanics, in their history and having the highest stock market in our history and the biggest wage gains sense 2007 working for you? September 8 at 5:12 AM ·

    Record 157,878,000 Employed in August
    “The number of people employed in the United States hit a record 157,878,000 in August, the 21st record set under President Donald Trump, according to the employment report released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics,” Susan Jones reports for CNS News.
    “The unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 percent. For blacks, the unemployment rate dropped to a record low of 5.5 percent last month. And for Hispanics, the... Unemployment rate was 4.2 percent in August, which ties the record low set earlier this year.”
    Click here to read more.
    “It’s been a lost summer for the Washington Post,” White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham and Principal Deputy Press Secretary Hogan Gidley write in the Washington Examiner. “Despite record-setting accomplishments in record-setting time, data shows the news coverage of Trump has been 92% negative. The most egregious and dangerous forms of this bias thrived this summer at media outlets like the Washington Post, which routinely masquerade opinion as news.”

    A whopping 266,000 jobs was created in November, with 54,000 manufacturing jobs created. All the while Canada lost jobs. Economist are blown away and Biden predicting a recession.



    Pay gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
    www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps...
    Jan 31, 2018 · Pay gains during Trump's first year in office best since the Great Recession. The Employment Cost Index, a measure of salary and benefit costs, registered a 2.6 percent gain for the full year, tied for the best since 2007. That gives President Donald Trump the best wage gains since the Great Recession, easily topping any during former President Barack Obama's entire term.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Overlooked on economy? Rising paychecks for blue-collar workers are shrinking the wage gap

    Monthly reports on the number of new jobs and the unemployment rate can drown out important trends like these two: After four decades of worsening, wage inequality has started shrinking. And in a twist, America’s blue-collar workers are playing the biggest role in driving that reversal.

    This may come as a surprise, because education is classically seen as a ladder up the income scale. Despite blue-collar workers often lacking college degrees, their wages have been accelerating faster than those of their white-collar counterparts.

    For example: In the past three years, white-collar workers, the sector that the Bureau of Labor Statistics classifies as “Management, Professional, and Related Occupations” and which encompasses 40% of the workforce, have seen their wages grow by nearly 7.5%. During the same period, all other workers, a group composed almost entirely of noncollege grads, have seen their paychecks grow by about 10 percent.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...equality-shrinking-economy-column/1955329001/
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How does Trump Twirling around crying "America First" garner "respect" from other nations ? - or not paying UN dues ? or any of your other examples ?

    Missile defense was a colossal fk up - a path to a new cold war arms race - one that we lost a long time ago - because it is a race that can not be won - and a really stupid race to enter.

    How is taking the world closer to MAD - ness something that the world should respect ?
     
  8. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The rest of the word is as ignorant as most Democrats that haven't a clue of all that Trump has done. America is in better shape than it has been in decades.

    NATO made a lot of promises to Obama, but delivered little. Yes I know that 100 billion goes in building up the forces of the NATO nations to make the Alliance stronger.

    No joke with N. Korea. When Obama left office N. Korea was shooting missiles over our Allies. Threatening to nuke us. The last thing Obama told Trump was that N. Korea was the biggest problem he would face coming into office. Trump went right after them. Told him we had more and bigger missiles than they had and we could wipe them right off the earth. The Democrat got angry, accused Trump of trying to start a nuclear war with N. Korea. But it was getting tuff with them that shut them up. Then after getting Kim to settle down and showing them that we weren't going to take any crap from them Trump played Mr. Nice Guy with him. Tried to show him how much better life would be for them if they denuked. Had several meetings with Kim. Got four political prisoners back. Got remains of our war dead back. Got Kim to stop threatening us and shooting missiles over our Allies. But then the stupid Democrats then blamed Trump for kissing Kim's ass. They didn't have a clue at what Trump was trying to do. Trump did pretty much the same thing with Russia and the Democrats took it the same way they did with N.Korea. Didn't have a clue of what Trump was doing. But Trump knew. You had to show your enemy strength first, once they knew you weren't going to be a push over, then you show your softer side to try and get what you want. It hasn't worked out as Trump hoped, but it has showed both not to mess with Trump because they have no idea how he will respond like they did with Obama.

    No, Trump wanted no part of joining TPP. We had enough bad trades and lost enough of our factories to bad trades. He wasn't out to lose more. He wanted to bring jobs back and try and fix the bad trades we already had. Outside of Canada and a small handful of other nations, we ran a debt with all the rest of our trading partners. Around a 500 billion debt with China alone. Trump knew, trade helps keep prices down, but bad trade cost us jobs and billions in debt. He wanted to create jobs and bring down debt.

    No the rest of the world hasn't written us off America as a reliable partner. They know they need America to help them if they are ever attacked. They know that even if Europe formed their own Alliance without America, it could not fight off Russia or China. As much as they don't like Trump and his tough ways, they know they need him. That is why they were willing to fork over 100 billion dollars to shore up their military, rather than form their own Alliance.

    Yes, I am sure they hate his America First attitude. For decades they have taken advantage of us. They ask for billions in aid then vote against us almost every time in the UN. Trump put a stop to that real quick. He did the same to the U. N. Did the same with nations asking for weapons and not paying us for them Want troop stationed in their country and expect us to pay the majority of the expense of doing it. Trump changed all that and he has pissed a lot of people off. But it's saving us billions. It's put nations on notice, your not going to make us a patsy anymore. If you want something you give us something. Yes Opinion8, Trump has gained a lot of respect from the world. They may hate him, but they will respect our country to put our welfare first.
     
  9. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think I just answered some of that. He didn't say he wasn't going to pay any UN dues, but there was agencies within the UN that he felt wasn't doing the job it was formed to do and he refused to fund that agency.

    Russia had been violating the missile treaty for years and Obama never called them on it. While violating that agreement, Russia came out with a super type missile that they claim was so fast they say there is no defense for it. Well hell, Trump wasn't going to let them get away with that, so he dumped the treaty and came out with one of our own. Hopefully Russia will want to put the treaty back in effect to stop an arms race they know they can't win. Reagan did the same thing to the Soviet Union.

    It's madness to sit back and let countries walk all over you. Trump doesn't want a war. But you can't get a bully to play nice until you show him you won't be bullied anymore. Notice Trump is still trying to soften both Russia, N. Korea and China. No one has ever got China to give in on trade before. We haven't got all we want yet, but we're still working on it with phase 2 coming up in two years. Trump knows when to be tough and when to be soft. The Democrats haven't figured that out yet.
     
  10. Bush Lawyer

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    If I were the Leader of a strong Country Trump wanted to do a deal with, the last thing I would be concerned about is him making War against me. He is a wimp. Talks tough, but is bluffing. If he is talking to me, I would know instantly that he wants me more than I want him.
     
  11. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well sir, I think your wrong. Now Russia, N.Korea and Iran knew that about Obama. They knew damn well when he drew a line in the sand he would do nothing when crossed. He proved that by withdrawing the missile launchers from Poland after Russia voiced their displeasure with it near their border.. They knew that when he refused to give Ukraine weapons to defend it's self against Russia and Ukraine insurgents backed by Russia. But Trump did both knowing Russia would not like it. Trump is unpredictable. They think he is a lose cannon and they have no idea what he will do. He maybe a wimp, but they don't want to take a chance to find out. Hell, even the Democrats are calling him a bully. A Nazi. They don't call that to a wimp.
     
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    Well....I do. I reckon I am right.....as I would.

    :)
     
  13. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your opinion sir, which your entitled to. I just don't agree with you at all.
     
  14. Tim15856

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    You just drank the koolaid from a different source.
     
  15. opion8d

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    The summation of the argument appears to be that everyone in the world except Trump supporters are stupid.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, just many Democrats and all of their leadership.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think he drank more than koolaid. Obviously he forgot everything Obama did
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I find it funny that Democrats even have the nerve to bring up Trump's spending debt after the condition Obama left our armed forces.

    After Obama ran up more debt in 8 years than all other Presidents combined from the time of our beginning. What did he accomplish with all that debt? Over 90 percent of all his jobs were in the service industry, with tens of thousand of those part time.

    Obama must have had the worst foreign policy of any of our Presidents.

    Is global warming a hoax? I mean we have Obama spending millions buying a home on an island in the Atlantic. We have one of the Democrats biggest donors.George Soros buying thousands of shares of coal mines on the cheap that Obama bankrupt? Why would either one do that if they believed the oceans are going to flood our coastal cities?
     
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    Great post. Keep it up.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well they are questions and statements I don't expect anyone to try and answer.
     
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    and obviously you forgot everything Bush did..

    oh wait ...he said mission accomplished ..and 19 years later we are still there

    and how about the housing crash and recession bush got us into??

    he deregulated the banks and they became the biggest crooks in US history

    did Obuma do that too?? or did he bail out the banks ?? or the auto industry to the tune of 12 billion ??

    when did obuma take office ??

    tump bailed out the poor farmers with 28 billion because he cannot get a trade deal with china

    these are the poor farmers that drive around in pickup trucks that cost $75,000

    and they have a $100,000 dollar motor homes sitting year round to be used 2 weeks a year

    poor farmers

    kinda sad you think trump is smart and a good guy

    he is a stupid scumbag
     
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    Who you voting for in November? That will tell us what you are...
     
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    Trump said, "America is respected again". Try asking the world instead.
     
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    What country is walking all over us militarily ? Russia has a total of one (1) aircraft carrier - where is this nonsense coming from - where is this huge army massing at our gates ?

    Your Russia missile narrative is wonky and lacks objectivity and many key facts. When the wall fell - Russia knew it could not match the US plane for plane - ship for ship - so it didn't even try. What they did do is focus their efforts on several niche technologies - one of which was missile technology. You can build a whole lot of missiles at 1 million a pop - for the price of a 15 Billion dollar aircraft carrier - not including battle group and the cost of operation.

    It was in the 90's that Russia came out with the Sunburn - a super sonic anti ship cruise missile. At the time we were a decade behind and did not have much of a defense against this missile. This missile was "defensive" in nature and certainly not in violation of any Treaty.

    In 2002 - Bush "Unilaterally" pulled out of the Anti Ballistic Missile Treaty - Putin's comment at the time "this is a mistake". It was Russia who wanted to maintain the treaty. This action threatened to destabilize nuclear detente' - which forced Russia to take counter measures.

    Then - in 2007 - Bush announced the plan to put ABM's on Russia's border in Poland and Czechoslovakia. Can you imagine the reaction of the Pentagon if Russia put ABM's near the US Border ? - the childbirth like wails and cries would be heard around the world.

    Russia threatened many responses - one was "nukes in space". It takes 30 min for a nuke to get here from Russia - it does not make one sleep better at night having a nuke above my head in space - 30 seconds away - talk about living in a hair trigger world.

    Fortunately - Russia did not do this. They focused on New Subs to maintain deterrence but they also violated the short and intermediate range treaty by building short range nuclear cruise missiles - the point of which is to take out the ABMs prior to launch. These countries that have allowed ABM's on their soil are dumb and dumber - in the event of a crisis - they would be the first to get hit with nukes.

    Obama went on TV and complained "Russia has violated the short/intermediate range treaty" - the media showed footage of the historic Reagan treaties for a few days. What Obama didn't mention was "Yeah -and we forced Russia to do this".

    This is mindless stupidity. First - because ABM's don't work. The only time it is marginally effective is if you can get the missile in the boost phase - the point of putting ABM's on Russia's borders - but most would be taken out anyway.

    In the event of an actual launch - the first thing that would happen is that Russia would take out our satellites and radar installations - and of course the ABM's concurrently. Then in darkness we would wait. The first blasts would be high altitude for the EMP effect - taking out much of the electrical grid.

    One Sub - 16 missiles (10 MIRV's each) = 160 missiles 5-7 times the power of Hiroshima. Take 160 US cities off the map - with population 500,000 or more - and let me know what is left.

    That is one sub - and these are firecrackers compared with the ballistic missiles. Russia used to make the 20 megaton variety = roughly 1500 times the power of Hiroshima. It is more efficient to use smaller nukes - one missile with numerous MIRV - so they stopped making these. These are roughly 1 MT - 75 times the power of Hiroshima.

    There is no "winning" a nuclear arms race - Both sides have the power to annihilate each other - numerous times over.

    If Russia was not completely confident of this - they would have put nukes in space. Russia is not going to stand idle as we destabilize nuclear detente and it is stupid to assume they would.

    It is Russia that wants to reinstate the various treaties - not Trump. You have things completely backwards.

    It is US aggression - and violation of treaties and agreements and destabilization of nuclear detente' - that has got us to this place.
     

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