CDC Warns It Expects Coronavirus to Spread in U.S

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  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mainly the usual suspects: Democrats

    Just search "trump virus criticism" on Google.
     
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    What are the legal passengers going through controlled entry doing to prevent Covid virus?

    Nothing! There were a few planes stopped, a few cruise ships blocked, but there are plenty of taking roundabout routes to get to the USA.

    What's particularly funny is there are ZERO controls on private flights. All the wealthy people traveling like that don't carry virus? Lol... ANYONE who had or has money and feel sick or note fly or cruise in to the USA no problem!

    My point earlier that no one is being checked on the virus in sick people in ERs the USA was that there is no need to check for Covid in the USA because ONLY planes from specific areas of China and the couple of cruise ships are being monitored so there is none needed to check ERs?

    The further information that test kits from the CDC were faulty, and as far as I know there is not any replacement yet, so the status of the USA is simply not known.

    ALL the people who are claiming everything is currently OK are simply blowing smoke.

     
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    I’m not going to continue to debate if controlled vs uncontrolled access has a effect on the spread of viruses. Notice how controlled entry points are already being used where the virus has spread? To, well help control the spread?

    And good for you, you got a quick attack on “rich people” in...how quaint..

    And currently everything is OK so people saying that are indeed correct.
     
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    Trump has NO IDEA if he is truthful when he says the Covid virus. But he is clad to tell everything is OK and in control! WE CAN'T TEST IN QUANTITY IN THE FIELD!

    Yet along all the other people claiming everything is "under control".

    The same thing happened with China as they minimized everything in December, and barely a month and a half ago had finally admit the large and STILL growing numbers of sick and dying finally quarantined dozens of whole cities and built whole hospitals to try to get SOME of the sick and dying off the streets!

    Yet the USA's president and everyone down is doing NOTHING, and unlike China, the USA has no ability to build whole hospital, have no ability or contingencies for quarantine whole cities, few food stock (grocery stores have just a few days of food), few medicines (much from China), and inadequate medical personnel.
     
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    It's past time now to shut down all international flights, close all the ports to cruise ships that have landed at foreign ports, make foreign merchant seamen remain on their ships in port, make American merchant seamen remain on their ships in port, and close all the borders, Canada too, except for movement of goods in trade across borders, and post the military on the southern border to use force to prevent the spread of corona aka covid-19. It's easy if you try.

    Everything cannot be controlled and results can never be guaranteed, but everything that can be controlled should be rigidly controlled because that is all there is available to control risk.
     
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    If the test kits in the U.S. are faulty, then the status in the world is unknown.

    The virus has infected 80,000 worldwide so far. That's like one small- to medium-sized town. The CDC is just saying that the number of known cases is going to grow, but that will be localized in pockets. It's not going to effect the entire country all at one time.

    If 80% of people have no symptoms or a mild cough and fever, this will be no more serious than the flu. The elderly, children and immune-compromised will be more vulnerable, but that's the same with everything.

    By next year, we may have "Cold, Flu, and COVID Season" with vaccines for flu and COVID. Humanity is very likely to survive this and come out stronger.
     
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    Sadly, virus multiplies here. No "entry points needed" any more. And we have no idea how many are infected already, but its here, and at the propagation rate, the only difference is a week or 2 assume ALL entry is ended! "Controlled" means nothing anymore.
    lol! To say rich people were "attacked" for me to suggest that the utterly uncontrolled entry of wealthy people to the USA can transfer disease is "quaint"?

    Wow! Rich people are "OK"? That's tells me all anyone needs know about disease. Sad.
    Still wondering how ANYONE knows "everything" is OK.
     
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    I'd rather have a president assuring us that everything is as under control as possible than have one freaking out and telling everyone to bar the door. We have fewer than 60 confirmed cases here. The CDC is saying "make plans" just in case the worst outcome happens....they aren't saying the worst will happen.

    People are reacting on a scale from "very calm" to "near panic". The outcome of this virus will be the same, regardless of your personal reaction. For me, there's not point in worrying over things I have no control over. Calmer heads prevail. :hug:
     
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    All I’ve posted is about controlled entry, no ideal where you are pulling the ideal about uncontrolled entry. And yeah you singled out rich people because that what a good lefty does at every chance. It’s called envy and it’s not good for you.

    OK drama llama. The sky is falling. We all gonna die.
     
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    Each person can only control themselves and their preparations, like frontier people who began felling timber for a cabin for the next winter as soon as the rivers were iced out and they had made it to their land.
     
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    dude, there is rattlesnake restaurant here, about hr from me, and I've seen enough youtube knowing many American eat it because its adventurous. heck I eat some fried alligator meat in FL, and then there is the buffalo burger etc
    remember the swine flu 2009 originate from US soil, 68million American caught it, with 12,000 dead in US, and 500,000 dead in the world. no one shut down the border back then. right now flu death is about 20k+ this year, that's from oct 2019 to now.
     
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    Population China: 1.3 billion
    Cases China: 82,000
    Deaths China: 2,800

    so using those numbers vs US population of 330 million and assuming the same infection rate and death rate:

    Cases US: 20,500
    Deaths US: 700

    But let triple it cause of “Trump”!

    Cases US: 61,500
    Deaths US: 2,100

    Current death rate by day for all causes in the US is:
    7,400 per day

    Hardly the end of da world!

    I’m at work but somebody can work out what the percentage of the population that might be infected and die. Gonna be pretty damn small!
     
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    This British Doctor is reporting new, not peer reviewed but he believes credible research which says that the RO was seriously underestimated and is around 4.7-6.something. This would basically mean everyone in the world would get it if left to itself. The only way to stop that is the outside measure of cutting people off as was done in China and as is being done in Italy

     
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    Holy Moses, there are apparently 8000 people in California who are self isolating afraid they may have been in contact with it and the health services are provided with nothing to test them!!! No wonder they are declaring a State Of Emergency.

    source in the video below which is the one I have been following.

     
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    I would not trust the liberal idiots running San Fran to change the oil in my lawn mower.
     
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    It's Armageddon!!!!! :roflol:
     
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    It will be a great shame if American's righties use their political bleating to create mass infection in the US. There are apparently no test kits in California. They are wanting to make their own.

    At 34.50 approx in the video above, he states that the US has not begun testing yet. This is beyond believe.

    From the beginning the UK has tested everyone who may have been infected by anyone. We have tested over 6,000 people. The only infected ones here so far have been the ones rescued from China or the boat but at least our Government has taken the time to make sure we are treating all who need to be treated. Some schools are closed now with children coming back from trips to Italy.

    In the days or airplanes, being far away does not keep you safe.
     
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    What you do is let it be widely known that those international passenger aircraft are not welcome, and if they try to make their own welcome you turn those passenger aircraft away by escorting them back to international airspace with fighters.

    If they still want to make their own welcome you shoot them down in the first remote area available. Then you inundate the crash site with napalm to kill any remaining virus.
     
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    How can the Socialist People’s Republic Of California not be prepared? Outrageous!
     
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    If you have said aircrafts are not welcome that is that though there is a possibility you already have the virus.

    The US does not need to use this as an excuse for further violence.
     
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    You feel so separated from those of a different political view. From when you first came on this thread, that seeming hate, was all you presented.

    If the US gets a major infection from not having gone through accepted protocol you are likely to get a much larger death toll. You may feel the only people who will die will be the old, those with diabetes, heart and lung problems but if your hospitals are unable to provide for the 15-20% of people who need hospital care then you are going to have a much higher death rate....and of course we are not yet aware of how this disease will progress but it would appear the US has let itself be wide open to a massive epidemic. Enjoy.
     
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    Chicken Littles tend to crave attention.

     
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    Don’t sell yet. I don’t think the market is anywhere near a top. :)
     
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    The U.S. has begun testing, so maybe the guy in the video has made some other errors in his assumptions. We've quarantined and tested everyone we know who travelled from China, plus the cruise ship people. There are also test kits available. A guy in Florida had "flu symptoms" and freaked out about Coronavirus. He went to get tested....and had the flu. Perhaps he should have been tested for flu first.
     
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    And every bit of that is conjecture.

    And now we are talking epidemic? Based on what?

    Damn y’all lefties are nervous folk. Guess that’s why you want a govt nanny from cradle to grave.
     
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