The Cost of a Border Wall vs. the Cost of Illegal Immigration

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Twenty million choose to not purchase healthcare insurance. Half self insure and half are certain that nothing bad will happen. Trump’s reform of ObamaCare to allow stripped down catastrophic policies combined with HSA’s allow more people to afford coverage.
     
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    Essentially nobody self insures.

    Those in the range who self insure can't actually pay today's cost of the most common operations that are required for life.

    What usually happens is they get sick and I pay.
     
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    Sure they do. They pay their own medical bills.
     
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    Okay, well let me know when the first check gets cashed.
     
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    The increased tax revenues from the trade agreement are now flowing into the US Treasury.
     
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    Of course it's important to realize that the increased taxes levied on Mexico are passed on to the American consumer, so in essence, we are paying for the wall.

    https://thinkprogress.org/trumps-fo...exico-aint-paying-for-that-wall-73a6f995126b/

    https://www.usatoday.com/border-wall/story/us-trade-mexico-imports-tomatoes/585350001/

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...omise/1397/build-wall-and-make-mexico-pay-it/
     
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    The increased tax revenues come from the ~ 200.000 new jobs and ~ $70B in annual economic growth resulting from the USMCA. See how that works. Mexico is paying for the wall construction.
     
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    We are paying for it through increased costs for goods shipped to us from Mexico so in effect we are paying for it out of our pockets.
     
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    That’s absurd.
     
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    perhaps, but it's the truth.
     
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    I don't think any border wall panels have sensors? What's so stupid here is the US is spending billion$ on technology and troops and agents, etc. in addition to the wall. Obviously, if the wall worked, all of these troops, agents and technology would not be needed! Immigrants are cutting through the steel panels, climbing over them, and digging under them. The ONLY reason less people are crossing is due to all the extra troops, agents and technology!

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/trump-says-walls-work-its-much-more-complicated

    https://www.engineering.com/BIM/ArticleID/16775/Border-Walls-Get-Teched-Out.aspx
     
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    The final design has sensors.

    Got anything more recent than over a year ago.
     
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