CDC Warns It Expects Coronavirus to Spread in U.S

A mask, not even a very good one, does SOME protection. It's just not perfect, although even good ones are perfect either.

1. A mask of any kind can stop SOME droplets or debris. Avoiding SOME risk is still helpful.

2. Probably more helpful is that to have a mask on so you don't touch your OWN eyes, face, nose, or face to transfer other people's sputum or surfaces to yourself.

3. I know many self-centered people couldn't care less, but avoiding making OTHER people infected is a Christian and decent thing to do.

 

I'll take that! We assume free drinks would still be the custom there!

 

A mask providing some protection makes sense and a controlled border providing some protection is does as well

 

give them the money, but ask them for a favor though in the perfect call

 

really protects people more from you, then you from them as it blocks the water droplet during a cough, ect.....

 

Heavens help us.

 

Lol!

Yeah, Trump and his magic marker is truely IS MAGIC!

Since we can't be checking how many Americans ACTUALLY have the virus, the Trump and Republicans simply assume nobody is infected, just like there is no abusive companies polluting our water or fewer are checking our food. Voila! All our problems are solved!

 

The media?

 

Take all precautions!

 

Y2K was never the issue they said it was.

Nobody did a thing to any of my automobiles or electronics. And none of it failed as predicted. Where I work, nothing done and no failures. If fact if I remember correctly nothing failed anywhere. Big fat overhyped myth...

Yes this is very much like Y2K. Media over hype on max! And now people on the internet adding to the hysteria.

 

I wish Hilary would wear that...all the time....even after this is over...just keep wearing it...

 

COVID19 /=/ Y2K

To suggest that the are synonymous is a fallacy of logical equivalency

 

Nobody cared about your cars or your stereo systems, all quite of things were done in the 10 years PRIOR to Y2K.

I wonder how many people would be so indifferent when their paychecks wouldn't pay for months after that day, or businesses had enough money to not need to fire everyone or go bankrupt when receivables couldn't get banked, or banks couldn't buy or sell fund your new house, or hospitals could have the drugs delivered and proper dosages delivered, and the other 10,000 things that could and did go wrong but fortunately, the intelligent and dedicated people who planned and executed the PRE Y2K problem. Including the screwups like the lazy and junky work that had the Boeing 737's doing fast drives into ground at full speed to go 100 feet into the ground and made several hundred passengers get turned into hamburger. And to have orthose tech happen repeatedly! Fortunately, the panic and media "hype" meant we didn't see it, much.

But now we have a President and a cabinet feels, with NO information except for countries having 50 MILLION people being quarantined with up to 40% of the industrial output shut down, there is "no problem and everything is under the control". Geez!

When China can't build stuff, it is Americans who are going to do WITHOUT medical supplies, food, equipment, technology, and alot of stuff people will be crying and dying, and missing their retirement savings as these businesses in the USA dry up and blow away.

Nothing is being "predictabled" now, its HERE! There is NO cure to happen in the next year, no businessed wiped out, no dead families to resurrected. Good luck! We aren't prepared, so we have a good chance of seeing the price of laziness and sloth up close!

 

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Basically there are 3 things which countries are weighing up the importance of. One is containment, one is economics and one is what is best for people. China worked for containment hoping the virus would not spread. Some people do not believe that China is in quite the recovery it says but more that China believes its economy has suffered enough and is trying to get people back to work. There were papers being shown last night where one region had declared 52% less people had caught the virus than was real suggesting they were doing that on Government orders...just a bit difficult to know how honest China is being as they are losing a lot but they seem to have moved from containment to economic. I am guessing the US Government as is usual has economic first.

Regarding containment for everyone else. Yes on one side it is true that it has not worked and we are basically on a pandemic level. Germany is expecting a massive rise in cases and the UK is now saying it expects this too. Yesterday in the UK 100 doctors and 11 hospitals were testing people to see if they have the virus. Should get the result either today or tomorrow. That obviously will allow the Government to make plans before we get to the state of Italy and who knows we may still be clear. The one thing people are hoping for is to be able to slow its advance. This is linked to the hope that it will act like a flue virus and go dormant during the winter. This could allow a vaccine to be produced and for people to be protected by next year. Hence isolation is still the best option at the moment.

There is another case of someone appearing to get the virus again.

Thinking of people dying because of shortage of hospital beds, there is a claim that the UK have already made a plan for Dr's to decide who to save

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and as far as a vaccine being created there is concern that the people of the US who cannot pay will not get and I guess also a suggestion that third world countries might not get it - lets hope the US is not going to hold the world to ransom.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...death-toll-mounts/ar-BB10syVE?ocid=spartanntp

No, it just came up on something I was watching. He was having a go at Iran. Telling them to be honest about their numbers. One research which has been done suggests there may be 18,000 people infected in Iran. It based that on the number of people who have brought the virus from Iran to other countries and timing.​

We need to know a lot more but if it comes back infecting so many people, 80% with no symptoms to speak of and 20% needing hospital treatment each year that would be a nightmare and see winter as the time of death. With the climate crises really taking off now that really is not needed. It has to be hoped that we can slow down its advance and find a working vaccine by next year which will be made available to all the people of the world.

You may be interested to know that when one of the people who was brought back from China decided he had had enough of isolation and was going to release himself the UK Government brought out a law whereby it can keep people in isolation by law. They will not have the choice. This was done overnight and obviously is something which could be misused.

It won't make any difference to there being too few beds for the people who need them. Private might decide to give the available beds to the highest bidder whereas it appears the UK may be giving them to those with the best chance but both places will need to refuse patients who they otherwise would have been able to cure if there is a sudden mass infection and hospitals are overwhelmed.
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OK you seemed to be suggesting you were not able to get sufficient information. That guy is a scientist. I prefer to get as much information as I can and see which seems to fit. One of the things I find interesting about him is that things he suggested earlier are now being said by others....and he makes it interesting to want to listen to!! There are loads of decent people mainly scientists and Dr's making videos providing information. I don't limit myself to him but he is my favourite. Government scientists can also give prejudiced points of few - it is wise to check out others.

Certainly in China smoking seemed to be an enormous plus for getting the virus. There was something like 4 women getting it to every hundred men and what they worked out was that men tended to smoke in China but women hardly ever. Apparently a regular good nights sleep is about the best thing to increase your immunity to the common cold - may help here too.

 

555 I don't know why I said Pence. It was Pompeo!!

A recent death toll suggests 8% but it is hoped/assumed that will come down when they discover the number of people who were affected but without symptoms.

 

It's no worse than the flu and democrats are attempting to create mass hysteria in a last ditch effort to harm the economy which is Trumps greatest accomplishment

 

More like 3%

 

There is a report which says 8%. Britain is suggesting we would only have 500,000 deaths - that would put the death toll at less than 0.5, The person interviewing said what about the report that says 8% and the response was that the UK did not expect that because once the number of people infected but without symptoms was found it would be less. The guy who presented the material also believed it would be less. We need to wait and see. It also appears that the better the health system the better the survival.

British Airways have stopped flights to Milan.

 

People, it is far worse than the flu. The mortality rates are at over 2% for the general population while soaring to over 8% for seventy and over 16% for eighty and over.

 

Apparently you missed all the newscast back then where everything was going to stop working that even the tiniest computer chip in it. You are funny trying to dance around the fact that noting happen. ..hype...over blown hype...

Your use of capital letters show that you are running off emotional, not logic. Explains a lot.

 

That's exactly right. The U.S. has the top-rated ability to handle a pandemic, and the UK is in 2nd place.

 

Much the same as the flu.

" It is common to encounter clinical attack rate ranges for seasonal flu of 5% to 15%. During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of influenza viral infection.
Flu Pandemic Morbidity / Mortality - GlobalSecurity.org

 

B-B-But then our political Left would be HOWLING about bigotry and racism and about those poor infected refugees who should automatically be granted access . . . just because. I know -- snap! -- we should send those cases to Cuba, since Bernie is so in love with their SUPERIOR medical programs.

 

I understand you point, and sum it up as death is preferable to controlling risk for the left, most especially if there is a hint of authoritarianism in the controlling of risk.

 

trump says "everything is ready" and CDC should put positive news on COV19 rather than negative news