CDC Warns It Expects Coronavirus to Spread in U.S

The UK has had an increase of 6 infected in the last 24 hours. One of our people who got stuck on the Diamond has died. Easy Jet is considering doing the same as British Airways and cancelling some of its flights.

 

You want to debate the Global Health Security Index which is put together by an international group of experts? Maybe send your arguments to them in an email.

https://www.ghsindex.org/

I've been listening directly to what our Sec. of Health and Human Services and the Director of the CDC have to say, not to biased news stories. We do have preparations and plans.

 

Not sure what you are talking about, You have not prepared for the virus and clearly have it spreading freely. Only yesterday you found your first patient infected by the general public in the US. He could not get tested. He was put in hospital with no precautions taken. Several times the hospital asked for a test for Corona. This was refused. Eventually he was given it and is positive. With Corona being an airborne disease and no precautions being taken he almost certainly will have infected others.

California and Sacramento may be doing as much as they can but you cannot keep this virus at bay by not providing people with test kits. Of course the US can claim to be free until it is wiped out by doing no tests and saying it is just flue as they were saying to this man.

It is also known that around 400 American passangers travelled with an air hostess who had Coronavirus at the time. Are you taking care of them.

Trump destroyed your structures for dealing with pandemics. Only yesterday or the day before did Trump announce any plan for the people of America. Looks like he was upset about the stockmarket going crazy. He thought the idea of Pence being in charge would give people some confidence. He got his answer to that- your stockmarket had its worst day ever.

The US has been enjoying the magical living of Trump. The future does not look good.,

https://www.frontpagelive.com/2020/...the-coronaviruss-health-and-economic-impacts/

We had threads on US health system a year or two ago, despite you all having to pay through the nose, you get worse for that than European countries particularly on outcomes - and of course some of your people die because they do not have insurance.

 

Whoever could not get tested yesterday was likely the victim of the local or state decision, or even the irresponsibility of a particular hospital, not a federal decision.

This is from Azar, as of yesterday, 2/27/20:

"In terms of identifying cases, CDC has been able to test 3,625 specimens as of this morning. At least 40 public health laboratories should now be able to test using modified existing CDC test kits. In addition, a newly manufactured CDC test can be sent to 93 public health labs as soon as Monday, and there is a privately manufactured test based on the new CDC test that can be sent to those same labs as soon as tomorrow, pending FDA clearance."

https://www.hhs.gov/about/leadershi...mmittee-on-the-presidents-fy-2021-budget.html

 

A lot of “ifs”.

Nothing would make me happier than to be proven wrong on this.

 

look like stock is in free fall now.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...beat-of-new-cases/ar-BB10vaCK?ocid=spartanntp

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/he...ted-drug-shortage/ar-BB10vgxQ?ocid=spartanntp
look like shortage of drug and ingredient will affect many US drug supplies due to importing from china as they shutdown a lot factories etc.

if china ranked 2nd for export drugs, my guess the 1st is india.

 

I never knew that ingredients for drugs and drugs themselves were imported from China. Why can't they be made at home. Surely drug manufacturing is automated

 

Yes, Alexa, we could have thousands, tens of thousands perhaps, already affected.

 

The guy had been in a hospital with nothing used to create protection for Doctors, nurse, other patients and visitors. I think he was from California and the desire was to get him a test. I think he wanted it, California wanted it and the hospital wanted it and were told repeatedly no. The US has only give around 450 tests to the whole of the United States. To give a different attitude. When Britain brought its fist people back from China - they tested I think over 30000 people who had any possibility of being infected. They got the flight details and they followed them. That is how containment works and that is what is needed at this time. The US does not seem to be working on this due to Trump having fired the people who worked on pandemics. Now California has 8000 people who have been self isolating. I hear hundreds have been quarantined in Sacramento. It would seem these places are doing their best but you have no National Strategy. I do not know why that place gave the US that position. I can only imagine that they were looking at old data as to how it was when Obama was in office as Trump threw all that under the bus in 2018. It was only 2 days ago that Trump said that he was appointing Mike Pence to oversee Coronavirus in the US. This guy talks to God to find out what to do and if God thinks they have been naughty they do not get help. He did this over giving free needles to drug addicts when HIV was the illness. God told him no. They did not get sterile needles resulting in many deaths

Would not surprise me if that was the reason that guy eventually got the test. I am sure I read that those people were one of the people denying the infected man the test - saying it was flue and did not have the symptoms of Corona. I would expect you to be doing things now. The stock market is telling Trump what it thinks and the Stock Market seems to be Trumps No 1 interest -but look at the lag. You too had people coming out of China did you not. The UK started putting in tests the minute they knew it was possible people could have come here with the virus. That too was over 3000 tests and you are only doing that now about a month later with a virus that spreads like Australian bush fires.

Particularly in a society which does no give medical care on need, people need to be told the position on this. Otherwise you are going to have people not going for medical care and spreading it.

You just are way behind not best in the world on this. Hopefully you are going to get your act together now.

 

Seems the UK too. Hopefully that idea of picking and choosing whose life to save was just a frustrated end game thought.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...help-nhs-cope-with-major-coronavirus-outbreak

(Our latest victim is a Dr and had been working until recently. I believe his wife is also a doctor. They are now having to contact trace all who have been near them)

You are a prepper?

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Your post made me think how important investigative skills are in combatting pandemics. I wonder if there would be value in recruiting criminal investigators etc. to help out with the non-medical aspects of these investigations where so much has to be looked into and analyzed? Maybe that already happens...I really don’t know.

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Not really. I suppose I am by default. We raise most of our own food because it’s tastier, healthier, and cheaper. Naturally we preserve a great share of it by canning etc. I ate some applesauce the other day canned in 2005. Good as the day it was processed! We live “in the sticks” and don’t like going to town anyway so things we don’t raise we store in large quantities. If the “food” runs out I have thousands of bushels of corn in bins and thousands of pounds of beef on the hoof.

My business requires me to store usually 1000 gallons of both diesel fuel and gasoline as well as several hundred gallons of propane. It also requires owning good generators to water stock during power outages. So I can be self sufficient even in grid down situations pretty much indefinitely.

I treat respiratory diseases (and many other medical conditions) in many species of animals from camelids to equines to bovines so have a bit of knowledge and supplies of equipment and some drugs that can be used in humans. I’m not the worlds best phlebotomists but what I can’t get done my wife usually can. She has performed a successful bovine cesarean section unassisted so I trust her to have a steady hand and make good decisions in a caretaker role.

My network of “experts” are just friends and family. Because most of them live the same lifestyle to some extent as I do there doesn’t have to be tight coordination. We all just know we can depend on one another no matter what the circumstances are. Even neighbors (not the neighbor on the other side of the picket fence, the neighbor who farms the field next to one of yours in another county) in my world can be counted on in troubled times. It’s just how people live here.

I guess I fit the last criteria of prepper as well by default. Because firearms are a tool I use regularly in my work I’m pretty well armed.

Basically my daily life has prepared me for what may happen tomorrow. I guess you can attach whatever label to my level of preparedness you like. I’m no prepper like you see on TV, but I’m prepared.

 

No mention about visitors and other patients but apparently dozens of health workers have now been put in isolation due to the lack of appropriate care against infection when he was in the hospital - (or it may be a woman. I heard man of 62 last night. This report talks of a woman.) This is at two hospitals - NorthBay VacValley in Vacaville and the UC Davis Medical Centre in Sacramento. They say it was a lot of workers who have been put into isolation but not as many as a hundred which suggests it was not far off. This obviously reduces medical help at a time when it may be needed more than usual.

Source Coronavirus Update 28 Practical Prevention Strategies, Patients, Age vs case.

Can be found at Youtube.

 

Sounds good.

 

I don't want to put the cart before the horse but I would bet that it will be the US that comes up with a vaccine.

All the worlds countries are banking on it, they are praying to the US pharm business to save them all, and we probably will. But I assure you under a Bernie regime you can forget about new drugs coming out. Bernie's form of Socialcommunism will wipe out all incentive to spend money finding cures and treatments. If Coronavirus or any new one, BernieBrovirus comes up during a disaster of him being in charge and forget about it, at that point the best defense will be to panic and run for the hills, shoot anyone that steps on your property.

I have spoken, the truth always.

 

Tonight' s ABC News said that dogs(pets) can get the coronavirus. They are evidently treating and quarantining at least one

 

That is fascinating because about a month ago my daughter had told me she had heard cats were to be kept in because of the Coronavirus. (I have a cat) I asked her why and she did not sound too sure but said because they could get it. My cat has still been going out and I have heard nothing more about this. We have as yet no reported cases in Scotland.

I wonder if this is related to what 557 is talking about in post 165

 

Yes. Zoonotic infectious agents are able to infect and/or be transmitted by more than one species. I had not heard a dog had tested positive. If true, it’s a game changer. If this virus spread through coyote or raccoon populations for example, it would be almost impossible to eradicate and be much harder to contain even temporarily.

 

Well I have checked and it looks like my daughter was wrong on this one which would explain her hesitancy. From what I have read cats and dogs can get Coronavirus but not this one so - yes, if this dog and others really have this Coronavirus that will be something new and a nightmare.

and so I have now found the story and indeed it is claiming that a Hong Kong dog has Coronavirus 19, maybe

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/28/coro...tive-covid-19-hong-kong-12317727/?ito=cbshare

 

Oh great! Socialism and a pandemic,

 

Death rate of males are 4.7%.
Death rate of female are 2.8%.
Do you think death rates of transwoman will resolve the claim: 'transwoman is woman' once and for all?

 

The UK's coronavirus number has gone up 12 today to 35 at least one of whom is believed to have contacted it in the UK.. France now has 100 and Germany 79 - or that was last night.

Our health Secretary has said they are looking at the possibility of shutting down schools and cities...though not yet!

Matt Hancock: shutting down UK cities 'may become necessary'

People will know the US has had its first death.

 

That’s good information. Thanks for sharing it.

 

You want to do something to help? Wash your hands. Almost all flu and flu like diseases are tranmitted by sick people touch things after sneezing or rubbing their eyes. Washing your hands keeps you from transmitting the disease and also from contracting it. Do you know why food workers have to wear hair restraints? It's not just to keep hair out of your food but more importantly to keep people from touching their faces and then your food. Eyes, nose and mouth are huge transmission sites. You will never see a decent food worker cover his mouth with his hand, they always sneeze into their shoulder. I had a health inspector used to test staff by shaking their hands. If they didn't immediately wash their hands for 20 seconds it was a critical violation.

 

CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 32 million flu illnesses, 310,000 hospitalizations and 18,000 deaths from flu; Pneumonia and influenza mortality has been low, but 125 influenza-associated deaths in children have been reported so far this season. This number is higher for the same time period than in every season since reporting began in 2004-05, except for the 2009 pandemic.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

Why hasn't the western world banned travel to the US?

The politicized reaction form the left, and the sensationalism by the news media, is just another in a long string of their efforts to capitalize on the emotions of the ignorant.