Turkey wants to wage a war on Syria

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  1. MrFirst

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    As far as I understand, Syria needs some time to deliver SAM systems to Idlib warzone. When it's done we'll start calculation of Turkish airplanes downed by Syrian air defence.
     
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    America is not involved in this mess other than that they killed Soleimani, with him out of the way Iran seemed to have weakened in Syria to the point where Turkey is now considering a war with Syria... Russia stuck in the middle
     
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    From what I read Hezbollah is fighting with the Syrian army and they are winning and taking back Idlib, and that's what's freaking out Turkey. Erdogan had the gall to say that Syria is invading them, and Putin had to remind him that Idlib is part of Syria.

    I think Erdogan misjudged Putin's friendship, and didn't realize he doesn't speak idle words. When Russia took charge of Syria's security, he meant it.
     
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    I think it's dangerous for any Russian to be in Turkey right now. The anti Russianism is rampant and some Sputnik staff's homes were broken into and no one knows where they are.

    I read there is a video in Turkey showing that the jets that killed the Turkish soldiers were Russian not Syrian. I don't doubt it, which puts Erdogan is in a real bind because he can't go against Russia unless he has Nato's support - and he doesn't.


    There's a lot of grumbling against him in Ankara about the way he's managing things in Syria and Libya, and his sending migrants and refugees into Greece as blackmail to the EU might be his last resort to survive. Either that or it's a prelude to a war with Greece.
     
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    So many Turkish lives lost,damages and attacks were made by the Syrian Kurds towards Turkey, they are very hated so much by the Turks that somehow they consider isis as a potent opponent of the Kurds an asset of their campaign against the Kurds.
     
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    This certainly not true. Wherever there is smoke the U.S. is lurking nearby with either residue on their fingers or whispering into someone's ear.
     
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    Turkey does not want to wage war on Syria, Turkey wants to protect the ethnic Turks in Syria
     
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    That is an odd opinion, even for a Russian propagandist.
     
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    "Years"? Decades! The U.S. has been supporting terrorists in Afghanistan since at least the late 1970's. I'm not sure about the others you mentioned. What is your assessment on it?
     
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    That is an odd opinion when one is a steady consumer of the pablum delivered by the mainstream media.

    For those paying close attention during the last 10 years or so it is merely a statement of fact.
     
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    I agree very much. As Tulsi notes, we have been involved in 'regime change wars' since before she was born.
     
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    Oh, definitely. I don't know if Korea can be included (I think not) but certainly Mossedeq's Iran, Castro's Cuba, and Ho Chi Mihn's Vietnam in the 1950's ....... and ever since - regime change in either Latin America, Asia, or Africa. Oh! Let's be honest! It's all about the overthrow of legitimate governments around the world and the proper term is "Military/Political coup".
     
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    I wasn't aware that I am a consumer of mainstream media. The reason is that I am not. I'm also not a consumer of pro Russian media.
     
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    You are evading the issue of supporting terrorist groups and it being "a statement of fact".
     
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    OK, I disagree with Eleuthra's conspiracy theory. Is that direct enough for you?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Turkey wants to go to war with Syria? We should say good, go ahead, but don't expect us to come save your biscuits when it ends badly.
     
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    Nope I disagree, this is about Erdogan not wanting to lose his influence/foothold in Syria, he needs Russia out of the way and he is waging a propaganda and intimidation war in Turkey against Russia, and using the illegal migrants to force Europe to support him against Russia.
     
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    The majority of the Kurds live in Turkey, and they want their own country. They might have gotten it with the Treaty of Sevres, but I won't go into that.

    Ankara has tried to force the Kurds to give up their ethnicity and language, and more recently has tried to ethnically cleanse them as well - which is the reason there are so many now in Syria.

    The US in the meantime wants them to form their own country in Syria - which Syria will never allow since it was never their homeland. But Erdogan fears that if they did manage their own country, then the Kurdish towns that border them in Turkey, will want to unite with them.


    The Kurds and Turks did establish peace for a couple of years, and the Kurds were able to establish their own political party in Turkey. When Erdogan needed more votes though to change the Constitution and give himself more power, the Kurd voters didn't back him. So to keep them from voting, Erdogan restarted the war by allowing ISIS to enter Turkey and attack them.

    What Erdogan was unaware of, is that this time the Kurds were well prepared. Whenever the Turkish military or police tried to enter a Kurdish town, they were killed either by snipers or by land mines.
     
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    The big battles in Syria recently was for the city of Saraqib and the M5 highway. The Syrian army freed it, but then the terrorists with Turkish backing retook it. Syria again freed it, and this time Russian forces are there to guarantee its security, and the free passage of cars on the M5 highway that connects Damascus with the industrial city of Aleppo.

    Erdogan must be freaking out. His greatest dream I think was to take Aleppo away from Syria, and now that's lost.
     
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    All jokes aside, its fairly well acknowledged that the real terrorist here is assad and his near decade long obsession with slaughtering his own people. its been a total disaster and this guy is on a fast track to hitler status, lets hope it can be curtailed prompt for the good of humanity.
     
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    Why Assad? Chinese president is the one who keeps people in camps.
     
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    Yup, I agree it is a flashback of what they did with the Armenians before, when they executed 1.5 of them before just because of religious differences.

    https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/armenian-genocide
     
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    Exactly as I said, the U.S. is lurking nearby .... whispering into someone's ear. Make no mistake, the U.S. is pulling strings and manipulating that aggression forward. It's really no secret.

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