Turkey wants to wage a war on Syria

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  1. Tofiks

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    Another conspiracy of anglosaksons discovered by couch experts.
     
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    :lol: ^^^ pure desperation. Apparently Turkey also gave Ukraine $200 million sh!t stirring money must be the US telling Erdogan how to spend his money. :rolleyes:

    Turkey have long meddled in Russia's business... all the way back from the Chechen war where he supplied assistance & safe haven to the Chechen rebels, no help from the US is needed.... If you're looking for an American link the best you'll find is Soros the Comintern & Democratic wallet, who supplied plenty of sh!t stirring money both in Chechnya and in Ukraine, how incidental that Erdogan's and Soros' interests align...:rolleyes:
     
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    "Needed"? What does that mean? Maybe you will admit that the U.S. is hell-bent on cutting Russia's legs out from under it? Yes? No? Do you not know that Turkey is a NATO member state and in an excellent position to do U.S. bidding? Are you familiar with U.S. support of terrorism against the USSR in Afghanistan? Have you ever watched a game of chess and understood how the good players plan their strategy several moves ahead?


    When I accuse the U.S. of meddling, manipulating, starting terrorist groups - supporting them - funding them, implementing military/political coups abroad ...... I do not disregard the possibility of Deep State influence ... I am not saying that Trump or Bush are acting (or have acted) on their own initiative. It is, none-the-less, the U.S. military-industrial complex (with brow-beaten so-called "allies" of NATO et. al) who are responsible for world-wide treachery, but the notion seems to perplex you.
     
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    You're being hypothetical... have you this.... have you that... therefore it is. that's not concrete evidence

    When I say needed is that Erdogan doesn't need any help from the US in starting WW3... he's doing fine all by himself

    You appear to be so influenced against the US, that you can't see the forrest for the trees. You also look at the US as one dimensional, there are clear factions with different interests... Foreign policy from 2008-2016 will be different to foreign policy now, in fact I find US foreign policy far more cunning, far less destructive and much more decisive than 2008-2016 where confusion reigned.
     
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    Would it be courteous to ask from which media sources you inform yourself?
     
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    I think possibly Thinkambob is talking about the whole situation in Syria which the US was strongly involved in and has not left has simply moved over to the oil fields. Apart from that scarlet witch put the situation about this particular scene in post 43. France 24 had a good program on this last night in connection with the refugees. Turkey has apparently not lived up to the deal it had with Russia. (was tired and missed the rest ;) )

    The people who are going to be suffering the most at the moment are the refugees. At the same time Turkey apparently had about one and a half million refugees when it made the deal with the EU and now apparently has 4 million. The EU has also not lived up to a lot of the gifts it promised Turkey - for instance free movement in the EU for Turks. That being said I heard a couple of days ago that the reason Turkey is sending the refugees over to Greece is to manipulate them into politically moving to their side against Russia - whatever that involves.

    The US is not involved in this scene but was involved in creating the situation which allowed this scene to be created.
     
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    I know Trump accuses NATO members for not paying enough, I don't know who and what your accusations are that's why I'm asking you.
     
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    No, his own ppl AND army supported the rebels back then and that's why he had to call the Iranian guard and Hizbi from Lebanon, his own ppl either fled in mass numbers or fought each other. if they were united he wouldn't need anyone, his army used to be very strong to rival Israel.
     
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    The Syrians like others were deceived by the NGO's into protesting and asking for more rights. Like other countries in line for a Washington regime change, the protests quickly turned violent - no doubt by hired snipers. When the Syrians realized they had been deceived and were supporting terrorists, one by one the groups rejoined the Assad government.

    Assad was never fighting terrorists, he was fighting the powerful countries that backed them financially and militarily: The US, UK, Fr, Israel, KSA, Turkey, Qatar and Jordan. Of course Assad had help from Hezbollah and Russia. That though doesn't exclude the fortitude of the Syrian people in wanting to retain Assad's all inclusive and secular government at all costs, as well as their unwillingness to bow to the west and have sharia law imposed on them.

    Their courage amazed the world, so frankly I don't know what in the world you're talking about?


    Get on to 2:20 and hear a very brave Tulsi Gabbard say what many people know, but fear to say:

     
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    Russkis can't guarantee their own planes....never mind others,LOL.
     
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    No they didn't ... and Yes they did ?? Of course Salafi/Wahhabi Islamist extremists within the population would favor the Islamist Jihadist rebels - at least for the first while.

    What about the moderates - Are you saying that the moderates within the population supported the Islamist Jihadists ?
     
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    If you combine Tulsi's knowledge of Turkey with the knowledge of Sibel Edmonds about Turkey, one quickly realizes that as Tulsi noted, Turkey is NOT our friend.
     
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    when you post a yt vid where the guy screams subscribe and like and buy our merchandise then you know its straight up bs. all jokes aside, its a serious situation and its inflammatory for you to be on here lording up a despot who massacres his own ppl. YOU are the only person in the world, besides dodgy russian movers and shakers, who is defending Assad with your internet life. give it up junior, the guy is not worth it, its time to kove on, there are bigger fish other than tinpot dictators funneling cash into your Arms industry. Think of humanity, remember that glorious existence?
     
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    no ish sherlock, do you even have friends anymore?
     
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    This is where much of our foreign aid ends up. We do the buying. You and I.
     
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    The Turks suffer from a sense of victimhood, and think everyone's out to destroy them - and maybe they are. That happens when you go around ethnically cleansing people from their lands.

    When the war in Syria started, and Erdogan invited the refugees into Turkey it was not out of compassion believe me. It's because he wanted Nato to establish a no fly zone in Idlib and the refugees would have been a good excuse. Once he managed to have Idlib under his control, then he could ethnically cleanse it with ease, (which he probably has been doing), and repopulate it with Turks from Turkey or Turkomans from the Central Asian States.

    One of Erdogan's gripes with the EU, is that they're not giving him the money directly for the refugees, but are giving it instead to the Red Cross. He might have other gripes as well, such as the EU not supporting his claims on the Greek and Cypriot waters in the Eastern Mediterranean, etc.

    Anyway the migrants that are shipped to Greece, (and there are terrorists among them), are a prelude to a Turkish military attack. Erdogan was going to invade and grab the small island of Ounousis on Easter two years back, but the people got wind of it and notified Athens. When the time is opportune, Erdogan will conduct a false flag attack and invade - probably Easter since it's traditional with the Turks.
     
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    If you believe that Assad has been killing his own people, when the ones saying it bombed and killed 13 thousand Syrians in Raqqa in a few days, and thousands in Mosul in a few days, and the stench of dead bodies in both cases was in the air for six months, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.

    As for the guy saying subscribe, thank him for presenting a video of Tulsi Gabbard that the MSM will never show.
     
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    :above: :thumbsup: :above:
     
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    That's fallacy - Denying antecedent.

    Another fallacy - Ad hominem.
     
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    I don't know how many you have ... but you've just very effectively dissuaded me from becoming one of them.
     
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    What does this have to do with me?
     
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    Courteous but pointless.
     
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    at least theyre still alive in china. Assad bombs his own ppl indiscriminately. he is worse than tony bliar in terms of criminals on the run.
     
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    translation; does america even have friends anymore. now go back and read it again.
     
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    its not me junior, its the entire international community. kudos for defending a terrorist though, someone has to especially when there is multi million dollar arms deals on the line.
     

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