Violent Civil Insurrection On Greek Islands Against Migrant 'Hospitality Centers'

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  1. gnoib

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    This is amazing BS, very entertaining, but how do you come up with that crap ?
     
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    Stop migrating.
     
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    Violence is not the answer. Rioting like idiots and throwing molotovs at cops is as counterproductive as it gets, and gives a horrible image of your movement.

    If you're really that pissed, go blow up empty migrant centers before they arrive. At least this achieves something.
     
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  6. Jeannette

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    Those migrants can be there forever as far as Turkey is concerned. It's to blackmail the more humane nations into taking them in. Greece can't, without giving up its sovereignty. 19 thousand entered the islands last year alone and those islands are now rebelling against the government for not cleaning them out. Instead they want to build detention centers.

    The border is in Thrace, and right now Thrace is what Turkey wants. The Turks living there who are Greek citizens, even prepared illegal detention centers for the migrants.




    Mexico doesn't have an army behind them to keep them from going back. I saw a video where the Turkish nationalists the Grey Wolves were conducting pogroms against the Syrians living in Turkey to force them to go to the border. It's probably to show the world that they are really Syrian refugees and not from Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Iran, Somalia, Congo, and every other country in the world with a Muslim population.

    I fear for the Greek reporter that's interviewing them.
     
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    So the Turkish and Greek governments should help them to return to their home countries by organizing free planes and buses for them.8)
     
  8. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Erdogan is a megalomaniac and not very stable. He and most of the Turkish people believe that every land that was once under the Ottoman Empire belongs to them and was taken away unjustly and unfairly. (I've read his speeches).

    The migrants are massed at the Greek/Turkish border in Thrace, and on the Greek side there is a Turkish minority that Erdogan has been arousing for years. He does this in every country with a Turkish minority so they can start questioning their borders. This is why Merkel wouldn't let him speak to the Turks in Germany when he visited, and why China has been having problems with the Uighurs.

    The Turkish minority in Thrace, in preparation for the influx of their Islamic brethren, have been building illegal detention stations for the migrants, and right now the Turkish army is heading towards the border to keep the migrants from returning to Turkey.

    Erdogan is in desperate straits in Ankara with the opposition over his military purges because of the coup, and also because didn't give his followers what he promised them. He hasn't been able to annex Idlib and grab Syria's industrial city of Aleppo. In Libya Gen. Haftar he's not able to grab the mineral rich waters around Crete.

    He also hasn't grabbed any of the Greek islands in the Aegean so he can extend his dominion as well as search for oil, and none of the nations are asking Turkey for permission to search for oil in Cypriot waters.

    Grabbing Thrace for Turkey is his last chance, and Greece will not let the migrants get in without a fight.. Here is the Turkish army on the move, to keep the migrants from turning back..

     
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    duplicate
     
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    If they have citizenship elsewhere and their country is not in an active state of war, send them back.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's the only solution, but someone has to do it. The burden can't be on Greece, nor should it be solely on the EU because flying them back to their countries can be very costly. Also they've thrown away their citizenships, and many have fake Syrian ones.

    Frankly think the UN should take it over. Has it even been brought up at the UN?
     
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    I have no objection to flying them all back first class to be honest. Flown back on the taxpayers dime is still preferable to the alternative.
     
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    Rice Krispies that snap pop and crackle similar to nazi marching and saluting
     
  14. Jeannette

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    The problem is that the EU passed a law years back, that every illegal migrant will be sent back to the country they came from. So they're all ending up in Greece. Greece can't send them back to Turkey because they won't accept them. So unless Greece figures out what country they are from since they don't have passports, they remain in Greece.

    Erdogan knows this, so when he tells Greece to let them pass through, he's blowing bubbles like Assad would say. When Erdogan went to Berlin, Merkel refused to give him more money and told him to stop making those people suffer to blackmail the EU. So Erdogan's newest 'bubble' is that it's the Greeks that are Nazis. And this from a nation that invented genocide.

    Well Soros and the New York Times are on Erdogan's side. The NYT's printed something about a secret detention center in Greece where the migrants are treated badly to discourage them from coming. First of all, if it's a secret center then how come the New York Times know about it? Also how could the conditions in a secret detention center be worse than the refugee camps they're living in now? I should think that would be a deterrent enough.
     
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    The EU is now paying $2,000 to any migrant that leaves the Greek islands. The best thing would be for them to fly back to their country, but will they take them? It's also the amount the trafficker's charge to cross the Aegean.

    Normally I would smell a rat, since Erdogan knows how easily Merkle can be manipulated. But knowing how the islanders feel towards the migrants, they're lives will be made so miserable (worse than now, if that's possible), that they will have no choice - unless of course Turkey denies them entry.

    Then again the Turkish coast guards might overturn their boats and that way force the Greeks to take them back. (It's been done before). I guess it depends on who they are. If they're Syrians then woe to them.
     
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    They don't get behind this knd of thing because most actors in the area, or most actors in any area for that matter, and not interested in the plight of ordinary people. They act out of a desire for money and a desire for power.
     
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    Let the U.N.
    physically repatriate them.


    Maybe under threat of a Greek gov't violent, military intervention
    as a motivator.
    Would Erdogan mess with U.N. boats and planes?
     
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  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    My understanding is that a clever person could make money by resettling people and not by exploiting them either. It's not terribly obvious how but we have motivated people (the refugees) and I've always heard that's all you need.
     

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