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Sure it does if the features in question are not designed for that purpose.

 

Then so much for your comparison to safer cars.

 

As I said there is no comparison. Cars are being made safer for other people, guns are just being made safer for the users and particularly the idiot users.

 

Be pretty hard to murder someone with a gun imbedded in concrete. Next stupid question please

 

Firearms, by their very nature, are deadly weapons. It is not possible for them to ever become anything other than deadly weapons. The only way for them to actually be made safe, is for the individual operating one to engage in basic safety themselves.

 

And the reason civilians actually need them is?

 

Meaningless and irrelevant nonsense. Firearms are not going anywhere. They cannot be made to not exist. Nor can they be removed from those who own them, legally or otherwise. They are an ever-present constant that must be addressed rather than ignored because they are inconvenient. They will continue to be present, and they will continually be misused due to the individuals themselves who are being ignored. Nothing will ever serve to change such. It is best to stop ignoring the true problem, and instead focus on it rather than scapegoating the inanimate object.

 

First, the united states constitution makes absolutely no mention of the concept of need. Therefore there is no reason to discuss what an individual does and does not need in their day-to-day lives.

Second, the real world is a violent, dangerous place, necessitating the public being armed for the purpose of their own effective defense. The only other alternative is being unarmed and helpless, and forced to rely on the government to look after them as if they were infants.

 

There is no such thing, just as there is no such thing as a safe ax, knife, motorcycle, dog, chainsaw, box of matches etc.
The world is full of items that if misused can easily kill, but only firearms are demonized.
Going back to my equating high performance vehicles to firearms, the possibility of having their top speed restricted and making our roads safer may be a step closer. Trucks today, cars and motorcycles tomorrow.
https://www.mhlnews.com/transportat.../bill-to-limit-trucks-to-65-is-back-in-action

 

Actually you should read it again. Particularly the part about a well regulated militia. That was the entire rational for the second amendment.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Says absolutely nothing about self defense. Read it twice implant it in your brain and then try to explain why the actual Constitution is being ignored by the gun lobby.

 

The united state supreme court has ruled that not only is such an interpretation factually incorrect, but also the well-regulated militia was in fact dependent upon legal firearms ownership, rather than legal firearms ownership being dependent upon the well-regulated militia. It is all quite apparent and clear in the Heller ruling.

The notion of the second amendment protecting a collective right of the citizenry to serve in a militia under control of the federal government has long been discredited nonsense, finally put to rest once and for all in the Heller ruling, holding the second amendment pertained to the legal ownership of firearms by private citizens for all legitimate purposes.

 

Since all Republicans are experts on Judicial activism it should be obvious that the judiciary has bastardized the Constitution. Always hilarious to watch Conservatives shred the Constitution when it benefits their issues and miss interpret it when it doesn’t meet their needs.

 

Perhaps you should concentrate on the main line as bolded above. Not the right of the State, not the right of the militia, the PEOPLE. The SCOTUS has ruled routinely that the milita is not a government body but one of the People.

 

It's called original intent, it's the Democrats and left that wants to engage in liberal activism and rewriting the Constitution.

 

FYI: He's trolling you.

 

I know him well.

 

Well this is the narrative they are going with. Apparently the problem is racist white people and not a mass murdering **** bag who massacred his fellow employees.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gunman-who-killed-5-molson-coors-had-noose-placed-his-n1149541

 

If such is truly believed, then cite the basic for such. Cite the legal, historical, and constitutional precedent that shows the Heller ruling is wrong, and the second amendment does not mean that the united state supreme court held it means. Show where it was held the second amendment applied to serving in the militia and nothing else. Show the historical cases where individuals have been charged and convicted of the use of a firearm outside of official militia duties.

 

Would you please hand the keys to your life over to Donald Trump so that he can decide for you what it is that you need? Oh, you can give him reasons, but ultimately, the decisions will be his.

Sound like a good plan?

The government suffers from the local knowledge problem. It cannot decide for everyone what everyone needs and doesn't need. It cannot collect all the information necessary to make a decision that is correct for every individual. The idea that the government should have the power to decide what you need is dangerous. You should not use it in arguments about anything, let alone gun control.

 

And of course I didn’t. But the thought that individuals should make their own decisions about what is necessary for a successful civilization is equally scary. They did after all elect Trump.

 

You should just bother to read the Constitution. The second amendment is perfectly clear that the purpose of individual armament is a well regulated militia.

 

So glad that Republicans have not embraced judicial activism. Oh, wait, they are using the judiciary to attempt to overturn Obamacare and eliminate coverage for preexisting conditions.

 

Does the meaning of well regulated escape you?

 

Find one well-regulated militia in 2020 America.

 

Exactly my point. Thanks