COVID concerns spread among homeless New Yorkers

The main ones being that it costs money and involves actually giving people something. It would actually cost less than the plethora of programs we have now which mostly don't work, but giving people something without taking their lives away is repugnant to the conservative soul, such as it is.

 

No actual reality.

 

Who's policy toward the mentally ill?

https://www.npr.org/2017/11/30/5674...atric-hospitals-led-to-a-mental-health-crisis

 

You can give an epileptic person a car, that doesn't mean they have transportation. These problems are hard, not easy. They are not solved by spending other people's money.

 

Lol...So now the down and out are lepers, eh?
Get back to us when the the hordes of homeless suffering from "typhus and plague" start killing your relatives.
Is there anyone cons won't try to throw under the bus?
Maybe trump should foot the bill for sending each of his loyal peeps a testing kit, since he obviously only cares about his supporters and he's going to need all the votes he can con or steal after showing everyone what a clueless prat he is handling the 'fake' virus epidemic. Too bad viruses don't fall for lies from an orange demagogue.

 

Your responses are a bit unhinged. Are you intentionally mocking the homeless? That's the way it's coming off.

There was no mention of leprosy. The entire point is the fragility of the homeless population. This thread is supposed to be about helping the homeless in the context of Corona. That's the wrong framework. The homeless have worse things to worry about.

https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20181010/california-typhus-outbreak-continues-to-grow

 

So giving them something that they may not want, nor would likely take care of, is beneficial how?

I have no issue with providing mental healthcare for the homeless those who need it AND want it. I have no issue with providing them with the basic necessities so they can move forward with their lives, but the absurd idea of 'giving them a house' is a stretch of any imagination. If we give them a house, as I said before, who is going to pay for everything else that goes with it?

I've suggested before, the shopping malls that are closing down, could be converted into living spaces for the low/no income groups, but that too has a set of intrinsic problems. There is no easy fix to help those who do not want help. But the idea of providing them a house has to be on the top of the heap of ridiculous.

 

What they want and need is community. Far more important than a house is someone with a vested interest in their well being.

That's not something you can buy with someone else's money.

They need family and they need purpose far more than they need a roof and they are getting those two things in the tent cities from other homeless people.

 

Do you think homeless people are going to maintain a free house? They can't even maintain a box. It would cost hundreds of billions to maintain housing for homeless people. Then they'll start demanding communication, internet, television, etc., and you'll be expected to get it for them. Bums never stop bumming. Never. I would take an illegal in before I took a homeless person in.

 

So you feel exposure to other people who may or may not have mental health issues, may or may not have health issues, and are having the same issues as the majority of their 'community', is a positive thing?

Those 'tent cities' have long reaching effects, on the rest of the area communities health wise, economically, and mentally. While for some it is a visual thing, a great deal has to do with things like what is happening in San Francisco with crapping on the streets and causing disease outbreaks from the lack of sanitation. The Romans came up with aqueducts and waste removal for a reason.... we are not a third world country.

 

It's not what I feel.

It's what they feel.

They are living in tents in filth because that's where they feel accepted.

 

And how many illegals are hiding in safe houses, or living 10 to a room?
They certainly won't come forward for testing

 

You mean like the time I was surrounded by 6 police cars at the local mall and forced out of my truck in 1997 when I was 18 because I was mistaken for someone else who drove a Navy Blue 1993 Chevy Silverado?

Or the time in 2000 when I was at a party and called to the street by a cop who wrote me a ticket for drinking in public when I had been drinking (at the house only) but had no alcohol on me when I crossed the sidewalk and approached the cop's car?

There's also that time in 2001 that a fight broke out next to me in the parking lot and I was suddenly slammed against a car and arrested for fighting when I was actually not involved in that one. Had to get bailed out that time.

I've never been privy to playing the victim. I took my punches because I didn't want to end up in jail for resisting arrest. I obey the law as I always have and I go home to my family each day like every person who follows the law.

 

You might be able to cut out welfare and food stamps to cover free housing, but then what?

 

Here's the good news. If elected to be president, Sanders has promised everyone in the country a free vaccine even though there is no vaccine and he won't take office for almost a year.

 

Has a majority of people living in the tent cities told you this? If not, then it IS what you feel, what you believe they feel.

 

They probably won't, and that's an excellent point that I hadn't though of. And there are at least 15 million of them.

 

And the people who don't want to live in homes, but rather live on the streets..... what then

 

And you have facts and stats to back it up? Or just statement from people who are homeless?

 

And people are dumb enough to think it will happen. It amazes me that we've reached a point where people will believe anything they're told if it comes from the right source. Trump was elected by both sides because of his policies, and every time he meets another promise, more people take his side. It's easy to let go of the tweets (the only thing the left can attack him over) when the guy making them is doing everything he said he would do.

 

Yes.

https://invisiblepeople.tv/tent-cities-in-america/

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2016/02/americas-tent-cities-for-the-homeless/462450/

 

Inmates already receive free healthcare and are much easier to quarantine.

One idea for the homeless would be to enforce vagrancy laws and relocate them to camp sites with facilities. All of them qualify for Medicaid/MediCal.

 

Neither one of the articles in your links stated they actually spoke with homeless people. They both state 'The homeless find security and community in tent cities'.

 

Your belief is that no one has spoken with the organized self governed groups they are talking about, and that maybe they are organized and self governed for some other non communal reason?

 

Your linked articles made no statement, nor linked themselves to any statement that members of the homeless groups stated it was because they felt it was for 'community'.

Homeless people are run off from any number of places by any number of people. Police, business owners, home owners. If you were told you wouldn't be run off from a specific place, likely you would go there. It doesn't mean you are there for 'community', it means you won't be harassed by people, other than other homeless people, for being there.