Florida man spent night in Walmart park lot after potentially infecting the leader of the free world

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  1. Giftedone

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    He is not the leader of the "whole world" . I would have been inclined to agree with this claim a few decades ago -but things have changed.

    The shining light on the hill is a distant memory from days gone by and past glory.
     
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    I think they meant flea world.
     
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    obesity stil gives you a higher change of getting all sorts of issues though

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3803151/
    Although the observation of improved survival in heavier patients was not new, the specific term “obesity paradox” seems to have first been used by Gruberg et al. in 2002(4), who found that among patients with coronary artery disease who underwent percutaneous coronary intervention, very lean patients and those with BMI within the normal range were at the highest risk for in-hospital complications, cardiac death and one-year mortality. Modestly improved survival among overweight patients relative to normal weight patients has repeatedly been observed in diverse situations, for example in a review of findings in the surgical population(5), in a meta-analysis of acutely ill patients (6) and in a study of driver mortality in vehicle crashes.(7)

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4831285/

    note that the equation ussually changes when your severe obese, but trump isnt that either

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...pneumonia-disease-survival-rate-a8367836.html
    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324628
     
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    Wow! Just wow!

    Sorry mate I have different information

    https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...to-infection/0C67E950E13DF5083A669DD40DF07CFB
    https://europepmc.org/article/med/8889981
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1245/s10434-012-2653-3
     
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    Lot's of people spend the night in Walmart parking lots from time to time. We did once in Del Rio. There was a 45 mph cross wind, a threat of roads and bridges icing up, and our odds of making it to Amistad National Recreation Area were dicey. We had four wool blankets and ran the truck for a few minutes each hour when the cold woke us up. I was surprised at how well rested we were.

    None of the local motel parking lots could accommodate a tow vehicle pulling a small teardrop camper without unhitching (theft risk), so we took the next best option. We were grateful to Walmart for providing us space and restrooms, and bought everything we needed there in the morning. The parking lot was full of overnighters and so did most everybody else.

    It was an unselfish gesture for Gaetz to stay in a Walmart parking lot considering the situation he was in.
     
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    The Mueller report cites 10 separate instances of where he committed obstruction of justice. The ONLY reason he was not indicted for these multiple and serious offenses is that there is a Justice Dept policy that says they will not indict a sitting President. When asked directly if Trump could be indicted and prosecuted for this once he left office Mueller's answer, "Yes", was unhesitant and unequivocal.

    Lock him up.[/QUOTE]

    The Mueller report is a "report". Not a conviction. It isn't even an indictment.
     
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    Its a research review of a collection of papers. Some of wich are completly useless and dont proof anything.

    First its a paper about the who on the general effect yet no studie to proof it.
    One of them studies rodents(3)
    The other is a opinions piece not a actual studie.(2)
    4 is a studie on how the imune system changes in obese but doesn't say its for the worse.

    6 is a study on diabetes and its effects on infections. Obese doesn't even apear in the study.

    7 is a study about leptin defficiency causing mice to go obese

    And so on. Your research review is a worthless piece of crap . Its not Because it has Cambridge on the name that its worth anything.
     
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    Obesity and the accompaning diabetes is an additional risk factor.
     
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    No smooching with Melania this time and he could sleep in the garage,:), just kidding.
    He is the POTUS and it would be a great embarrassment for the USA if is contacted or even succumb to that malady, he is in great hands and is being taken cared of extensively.
     
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    He could easily destroy the world, or engage it in a war and defeat every nation on it.

    The Mueller report is a "report". Not a conviction. It isn't even an indictment.[/QUOTE]

    It's certainly probable cause to indict him after he's defeated in November. Trumpers all act as if you can't even investigate something without a full-on conviction. Trump himself certainly takes that view.
     
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    It's certainly probable cause to indict him after he's defeated in November. Trumpers all act as if you can't even investigate something without a full-on conviction. Trump himself certainly takes that view.[/QUOTE]

    I'm not a "Trumpers". do not like him, never voted for him.

    But that said no matter how much liberals/Democrats howl even if Trump is defeated in November I really do not think any legal action will be pursued against him. It would set a very bad precedent for a president to face the loss of his freedom if he lost his bid for reelection.
     
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    The virus does not care who a person is.

    As the great pathologist Willian Boyd noted, disease is no respecter of persons.
     
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    I'm not a "Trumpers". do not like him, never voted for him.

    But that said no matter how much liberals/Democrats howl even if Trump is defeated in November I really do not think any legal action will be pursued against him. It would set a very bad precedent for a president to face the loss of his freedom if he lost his bid for reelection.[/QUOTE]

    The bad precedent will be if he escapes justice for no other reason than being President. President Clinton was disbarred after he left office for lying to a Grand Jury. You seem to have no problem with that.
     
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    There is a major difference in losing a law license that you never used anyway and losing your freedom.
     
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    You can help by not being part of the FEAR MONGERING CROWD.

    Corona virus - Updated March 12, 1:12 AM EDT
    GLOBALLY
    Confirmed 126,369
    Deaths 4634
    The current world population is 7.8 billion as of January 2020 according to the most recent United Nations estimates elaborated by Worldometer.

    USA
    Confirmed 1,329 Deaths
    38
    The population of the USA in 2020 as per estimates= 331.60544 Million.

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=coron...E5487F90C3F2F3DCE34D78&FORM=QBRE&sp=3&ajf=100


    Influenza A and B 2020 - So far this season, there have been 45 million flu illnesses, at least 300,000 hospitalizations, and up to 46,000 deaths from flu, of which more than 100 are pediatric--a higher total at this point of the year than any season in the past decade. he CDC reports that the percentage of deaths attributed to flu and pneumonia is 6.8%, which is below the epidemic threshold of 7.3%. But this year's strain is unusual compared to previous years.

    This year, Influenza B appeared earlier than usual. Traditionally, Influenza A appears earlier than Influenza B, but that was not the case to begin 2020.

    According to the CDC, roughly 70% of early flu cases were Influenza B and about 30% were been caused by Influenza A.
    https://www.rochesterregional.org/news/2020/01/flu-season-2020

    There have been 83 homicides in Chicago in 2020.
    The population of Chicago in 2019 in terms of estimated data - 2.74936 Million.

    https://graphics.suntimes.com/homicides/

    6,590 pedestrians were killed on U.S. roads in 2019, the highest number in more than 30 years https://www.ghsa.org/resources/Pedestrians20.

    Death rate extrapolations for USA for Food poisoning: 5,000 per year, 416 per month, 96 per week, 13 per day, 0 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second.
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=food+...C21340838B352CD692BD5819&FORM=QBRE&sp=1&ghc=1

    You have a better chance of dying by walking across the street to get a hamburger in a restaurant with a customer in line coughing and sneezing. All the "chicken littles" have done is create a " World Wide Pandemic of Fear "
     
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    Clinton could easily have been sentenced to jail and Trump will probably just be fined. The point is that he should be tried and convicted if he broke the law.
     
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    The bad precedent will be if he escapes justice for no other reason than being President. President Clinton was disbarred after he left office for lying to a Grand Jury. You seem to have no problem with that.[/QUOTE]

    Where I come from, they teach, that one is innocent until proven guilty. They also teach us in the commandments "Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor." Let's us not forget the 7 deadly sins that has seemed to grip the Democrats and Deep State
    1. Lust -for power.
    2. Gluttony - A grab for power using every underhanded way.
    3. Greed - An unwillingness to share or compromise.
    4. Sloth - Too lazy to ones elected job.
    5. Wrath - discord and anarchy over the loss of an election.
    6. Envy - Hate another's accomplishments.
    7. Pride - A false believe in one's self is the only way.
     
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    Where I come from, they teach, that one is innocent until proven guilty. They also teach us in the commandments "Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor." Let's us not forget the 7 deadly sins that has seemed to grip the Democrats and Deep State
    1. Lust -for power.
    2. Gluttony - A grab for power using every underhanded way.
    3. Greed - An unwillingness to share or compromise.
    4. Sloth - Too lazy to ones elected job.
    5. Wrath - discord and anarchy over the loss of an election.
    6. Envy - Hate another's accomplishments.
    7. Pride - A false believe in one's self is the only way.
    [/QUOTE]

    If Trump is so innocent then why is he trying so hard to cover-up?

    "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 “But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. 3 “Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed upon the housetops." Luke 12: 1-3
     
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    The case fatality rate of TDS is far lower, but infectivity is through the roof.
     
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    Hopefully whatever study you're citing controls for age and excludes cachexia for cancer. Some of them used to be obese until the stage 4 cancer.

    I noticed the younger patients in the hospital tended to be obese. But it was their youth saving them, not their gut.
     
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    Not without destroying ourselves he couldn't. We can destroy Russia but - Russia can also destroy us.
     
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    Prison? For what? It's not like he mishandled classified data or anything.
     
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    Obstruction of Justice is a felony
     
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    If Trump is so innocent then why is he trying so hard to cover-up?

    "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 “But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. 3 “Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed upon the housetops." Luke 12: 1-3[/QUOTE]

    What is he covering up? He's been more transparent than any President I know. Just because the deep state, using knowing false information provide by the DNC, went in front of the FISA court and presented a fictional narrative which started this whole mess and complicity by the media to crucify his administration with a guilty verdict over non crimes does not make him guilty of a cover up. If one disagrees with one's policies it is perfectly moral to say so, but, when one tries to destroy that person it is immoral.
     
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    Probably an exaggeration both ways.
     

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