How much longer will central Antarctica save our coastal communities?

HockeyDad · Nov 1, 2019

DennisTate said: ↑

For the last several decades the colossal amount of ice being ADDED to the central region of Antarctica has saved our coastal cities and towns from the threat of rising ocean levels BUT........
how much longer will this factor prevent a serious rise in ocean levels?

Personally I am worried that the tide is turning.....
pardon the pun.....
and we could be only years away from a significant rise in ocean levels.

Thank G-d that the Israelis have invented Sorek and proved that mega-scale desalination of ocean water is economically feasible......
because every cubic meter of ocean water that is desalinated and added to a nation with lots of desert.... is great news for the Maldive Islands, New Orleans, Florida, Bangladesh, The Netherlands, the owners of the 143,000 acres by the Bay of Fundy that has been taken back from the ocean by dikes......etc., etc., etc., etc.,........
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If you believe in the Bible, why should you care? In the Bible, God said he will never flood the world again.

If the Bible is true and God is in charge of the climate, this seems like a ridiculous project which will not affect what God decides to do with the climate even one bit.

DennisTate · Nov 1, 2019

HockeyDad said: ↑

If you believe in the Bible, why should you care? In the Bible, God said he will never flood the world again.

If the Bible is true and God is in charge of the climate, this seems like a ridiculous project which will not affect what God decides to do with the climate even one bit.
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I am actually not worried about the entire world being flooded but a one meter rise in ocean levels could produce
twenty to perhaps eighty million climate change refugees in Bangladesh alone.........
and if humanity decides to invest in turning deserts green.........
that severe of an increase in ocean levels, in theory, could perhaps be prevented??????

I'm Canadian and our severe climate causes us to worry about people down the road more than many
people do who deal with a much more mild and predictable weather patterns.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...illion-dollar-problem.525406/#post-1068713597

M. P. Bill Casey... President Trump has a 4.3 trillion dollar problem....

DennisTate said: ↑

One trillion dollars US would build 2000 plants of this size.....
and once they were running at full capacity could desalinate
627,000 x 2000 = 1,254,000,000 cubic meters of ocean water daily!

This actually could turn out to be A LOT LESS expensive than building
dams and levees and massive pumping stations in cities and towns that
are vulnerable to rising ocean levels.

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Honorable Minister Mr. Bill Casey:

Can you think of any better way to divert one trillion of those 4.3 trillion USA Petro-dollars that could potentially be used to attack the USA economy?
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I live only a hundred miles or so from the Bay of Fundy which forces me to give this question more thought and attention that somebody else would tend to do........ unless they perhaps lives in Anchorage, Alaska or New Orleans.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ten-cms-3-or-4-inches-could-high-tide.543690/

If average ocean levels rose by eight to ten cms (3 or 4 inches) could high tide...

... rise by one meter in the Isthmus of Chignecto in Nova Scotia, Canada?

This question is logical because the geography of Canada's Bay of Fundy produces the world's highest tides. In my part of Nova Scotia in Guysborough County there is very little funnelling of tidal waters......... so high tide is only about one to one point five meters above low tide.

In the eastern area of the Bay of Fundy high tide levels are up by ten to fifteen meters.

Although the context of this verse is negative, (The Tower of Babel incident)... there is a positive side to this verse as well:

Genesis 11:6 "And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do."

.... but of course......

Ecclesiastes 10:19 "A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things."

Richard The Last · Nov 6, 2019

How much longer will central Antarctica save our coastal communities?

Let's hope not too much longer. I ain't getting any younger and really want to see the show.

DavidMK · Nov 7, 2019

Pollycy said: ↑

I struggle to understand how coastal cities are 'threatened' by rising seas at this point.

The reason I say that is because accurate measurements of sea level on the planet reveals through core samples, tide gauge readings, and, most recently, satellite measurements that over 100 years, the Global Mean Sea Level (GMSL) has risen by 4 to 8 inches (10 to 20 centimeters). Nobody ever drowned in 4 to 8 inches.

I'm MUCH more worried about what we humans are putting IN the oceans (cubic miles of trash, toxic waste, industrial pollution, etc.) than I am about the sea level rising 4 to 8 inches....
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Those inches add up though. There are parts of Miami (not just Miami either, this is just my 1st hand experience) that flood up to 2 block inland at high tide now, and if projections hold, that tidal flooding will reach the airport (aka the entire city) in 50 years. A few inches averaged can be feet added to high tide and storm surge to say nothing of saltwater intrusion into aquifers. As glaciers melt and thermal expansion becomes ever more pronounced we're going to start seeing cities and islands disappearing. We're talking 500+ years mind you for the worst case scenario but it's something that's already having an effect. And that's on top of acidification, coral, plankton and incet die offs, changing rain patterns, ect. Life is going to start sucking in 40-100 years for anyone not rich.

Blaster3 · Nov 7, 2019

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Yes there are, but they are tiny compared to the current extent of the equatorial rain forests (though I guess if the equatorial ones keep shrinking that won't always be the case ) so their carbon management capability is comparatively insignificant.

Beyond focusing solely on carbon dioxide, the equatorial rain forests also have much greater biodiversity which in addition to the good feelings associated with more species means that they offer a greater biobank for the discovery of new treatments and so on.
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the diminished rainforests is a multi-fold issue, on one hand they are removing less co2, on the other they are adding less o2... ergo the ratio/concentration of co2 to 02 is increasing because of it. it's not the only cause, but this effect needs to be accounted for because it is playing a role, there are fewer and fewer 'scrubbers' (filters)

DennisTate · Nov 7, 2019

Richard The Last said: ↑

How much longer will central Antarctica save our coastal communities?

Let's hope not too much longer. I ain't getting any younger and really want to see the show.
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My theory...... and my apologies to the degree that I am incorrect.......
is that there are gifted psychics in all nations and cultures and i take
an ancient Islamic prediction seriously and I do suspect that money will soon be made abundant.......

and the deserts even of Saudi Arabia and other Islamic nations will be turned green largely through mega-scale
desalination of ocean water that is becoming more and more cost effective.

Book 005, Number 2208:
"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)
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Carl Cantrell:
So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breath, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere, carried away by running surface water such as rain fall, is carried away to other areas by our winds, and diffuses down into the soil towards the earth's crust. All of this warms our planet increasing its average temperature.

Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes. This is very critical because warmer and dryer winds dry out other land areas faster decreasing the vegetation on those land areas. Less humidity in the air also reflects less sun light back out into space so that more sun light strikes the earth and more heat is generated.

The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave.

So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive.

Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds

This will do a number of things. First, it will increase the moisture in the desert soil so that it will develop water tables and water will begin to run in the streams. This water will increase the amount of vegetation in the area and decrease the amount of heat being generated by sun light cooling the watered area and all areas down wind of the watered area. As more available water evaporates, it will cool the air and reflect more sun light back out into space cooling the area even more. Cooler and more humid air will have less of a heating effect on areas down wind and will reflect more sun light back into space in those areas cooling areas we won't be watering yet. Cooler and more humid air will also have less of a warming effect on our seas and oceans.

Rain water running off of cooler soil will decrease the heating effect on our oceans and our planet crusts which will decrease catastrophic storm activities for other areas and seismic activity for the entire planet. Also, returning more ocean water to the surface and aquifers of our continents will lower the sea levels providing more usable land for us to farm and build on.

With cooler desert areas and increasing vegetation, less water will evaporate from our deserts increasing the amount of surface water even more and increasing the amount of vegetation and animal life by huge amounts because deserts currently take up more than 20% of our land surface. Populations will be able to spread out and there will be less competition for existing land areas.

This strategy has to be done in steps with the first step being to begin slowing the rate at which our global warming is increasing. We need to focus on that until we have brought it to a point to where the temperature is not increasing any more and is reasonably stable. While we are doing this, we need to come to a global consensus of just how cool we want to cool our planet down to. If we cool it down too much, we will begin to have devastatingly harsh winters in large populated areas and even cause an ice age to set in.

Then we begin cooling the planet down to a point which will be most beneficial for all countries or the planet as a whole. We need to gradually bring the temperature down because there may be a lag effect in which the planet will continue cooling after we stop increasing our efforts to cool it off more. We may even want to stop cooling the planet once or twice before we reach our targeted temperatures to see if there is a lag effect

We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time. (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell).
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DennisTate · Nov 9, 2019

http://www.crcantrell.bibleword.org...HQIjhpvTX2G54xpTCyuD51WCXPAF-aD05gp3t7lrgFuqI

Carl Cantrell:

I Told You So 287

Sahara Desert

Remember that I told you about what I call continental drying creating and increasing the size of deserts and that we could and should increase the carrying capacity of the planet by returning water to these drying areas, especially the deserts?

I am not the only one now thinking about this as you can see in this video. The difference is that my plan uses desalinated water as artificial rainfall to control the process, you know, the way God uses rainfall, and their ideas are just flooding large areas with salt water and hoping evaporation will take care of it, you know, kind of hit and miss based on ignorance.

Their idea was tried decades before I was born (I'm 70), it was a terrible failure and my idea was developed based on that failure in relation to science. Yeah, it really helps to learn from other people's mistakes so you don't repeat them.

What they did was they found a desert valley just off of the Nile River in Egypt that had once been a very productive agricultural valley a few thousand years ago and the geniuses decided to flood that valley floor with water from the Nile River to turn it back into agricultural land. Well, all of that standing water just stood there and became stagnant (surprise, surprise) and it turned into a disease infested swamp they ended up having to drain because it was killing people.

That is what the people in the above video are talking about doing except, instead of using fresh water, they are talking about using salty sea water and just kinda sorta hoping that water will either seep into the soil and/or evaporate and return as rain to magically turn the area into a tropical paradise, you know, the ignorance based, simple minded fairies riding unicorns over rainbows thinking.

"Why, if we just do this one little simple minded, ignorance based thingy, utopia will just magically happen...poof!"

Did you know that, without the tides created by the moon and sun, your sea shores will become so stagnant that most life can't exist in the salt water?

What happens is the gravity of the moon and sun cause the waters to rise by drawing in more water called a high tide. As the Earth rotates away from the moon and sun, their gravities pull quite a bit of that water away from our shores, called a low tide, taking quite a bit of the waste deposited along those shores out to sea where it is either processed by organisms at sea or sinks into the mud at the bottom of the ocean, keeping your sea shores clean and healthy.

Now, if you flood a big hole in the ground in the middle of a desert the way they say, I don't care how big it is, there will be no cleaning tides taking waste out to sea because your body of water will be land locked. If you want to see what that will be like, just go to any land locked body of salty water like the Dead Sea or the Salt Lakes in Utah in the US, where there is almost no life. Hint, it ain't going to be no tropical paradise, baby.

If you want to recover these drying continents, especially the deserts, you have to use clean rainfall and running water. You CANNOT use standing or stagnant water because that never works. Even the Great Lakes in North America have a running water flow through that keeps them clean, washing waste out to see via the St. Lawrence River.

Therefore, the common sense and scientifically sound thing is to use desalinated water, pipe it to the tops of "water sheds", which are land areas like valleys where the rainfall runs down towards the same streams and rivers, use old style water sprinklers to generate artificial rainfall that will not only increase the water in the soil but also increase the water in the air, which will decrease heating and drying of the area.

The science behind hydrating the air is a little complex but I will try to keep it simple. Remember this is the nutshell version.

The higher the humidity or water in the air, the less water the air will absorb from the soil, plants and animals and the more sunlight will be reflected back out into space so that less sunlight will reach the soil and be turned into heat, which means the increased air humidity will cool the area. Yes, you will be changing the weather or climate on a local basis from desert weather to a more habitable climate.

Therefore, we need to increase the water in the air around our watershed as well as the water in the soil and the best way to do that is with water sprinklers, which will achieve both goals at the same time.

Now, by using artificial rain on mapped out watersheds, we will be using running water to gradually increase the water in the soil so that water doesn't go stagnant and remains fresh or the soil becomes saturated and causes mudslides, which is a MUST.

You need to do this gradually over a period of at least 3 to 5 years and not just flood the area. What will happen is that, as the water in the soil increases, grass and small plants will grow establishing roots in the soil to prevent erosion and mudslides (grass, not trees, prevent erosion) and begin developing increasing biomatter in the soil so more and larger plants can eventually grow. You start by growing, farming, or developing the soil and the air to where they can support an ecosystem. To work, this has to all be done scientifically and not just ignorantly flooding an area with water.

This increasing water in the soil will begin to build aquifers, which, when their water level reaches the surface, will begin to develop streams, which will grow into rivers and lakes, which will develop riparian areas, for which you may have to introduce species because, in case you have not noticed, there are no riparian areas or species in deserts. Then you will begin to develop grassy fields and hills and, as animals such as birds spread seeds, you will start getting larger brush and occasional trees, especially near surface water.

As the plant life increases, herbivores from surrounding areas will migrate to your project area, which will draw predators to your area, which will do most of the developing of the ecosystem for your area with you only having to introduce a few specialized species like water plants and animals, some of which will be brought into the area by migrating animals like birds, but you will definitely have to introduce things like fish or aquatic animals based on the plant life you see developing in your area.

It is like carving a stone statue, you have to do it one carefully placed hammer stroke at a time and don't just hit it once with a really big hammer.

You DO NOT want to plant any trees for at least the first 5 to 10 years pending the development of the ecosystem because trees use way too much water, would slow the development of the water system in your ecosystem and possibly stop its development. A few trees brought into the area because of seeds spread by animals like birds will be fine.

What you need to grow for those first 5+ years is indigenous grass and small plants to prevent erosion. You DO NOT want to do any farming of any type or herding for at least the first 3 to 5 years pending the development of the ecosystem or it could setback or destroy your reclamation project and you will be right back where you started with a desert wasteland. You have to increase or grow the biomatter in the soil until the soil can handle farming and herding, after the grass lands mature.

This project has to be controlled and it has to be based on science. When you finally do start farming or herding, you want to start with light herding and, if the soil handles that well for a few years, then you can start farming or heavier herding.

Now, before you even begin your project, you have to send in teams of scientists to map out your watersheds so you will know where to run your pipelines and place your sprinklers, especially in relation to trade winds. You need to setup entire strings of wet areas cutting across the trade winds to increase air humidity and precipitation while decreasing sunlight hitting the ground downwind to begin claiming even more of the desert. The "downwind" areas will develop more naturally from the precipitation caused by the increasing air humidity increasing water soil, forming aquifers, streams, rivers, and lakes to grow grasslands.

You will need to study the local plants and animals to know what plant and animal populations will begin to grow as the water and food supplies increase, you have to study all areas within 100+ miles of your project so you will know what plants and animals will migrate to your habitats as the water and food supplies increase, and then you can decide what plants and animals you will need to introduce for your ecosystem to function by making it a balanced ecosystem. What they will find is that they will have to introduce very few species to achieve a balanced ecosystem, mostly aquatic life.

You will need to study the meteorology and geology of your project area so you can monitor changes in soil biomatter and weather patterns for the project area.

Some people have complained that research is showing that waste from desalination plants is 50% greater than they had previously thought, often dumping the chemicals they use for desalination back into the sea, polluting the sea.

That is for chemical and mechanical desalination and not solar desalination. The only waste you will get from solar desalination is the salt and other minerals you will cook out of the sea water with the heat generated by sunlight, which can be returned to the sea or even sold as "sea salt" to health food nuts to help cover the costs of your project and save tax payers and investors money.

As you can see, this would be much more complex than the people in that video think it would be and require teams of scientists to manage it. Eventually, you should determine seasonal net loss of water for each area caused by evaporation and runoff and that will determine your eventual use of desalinated water, which should eventually decrease and will certainly fluctuate over time. Therefore, the net loss of water has to be monitored forever by scientists, yes, forever.

Oh yeah, you will need more CO2 in the air for all of those plants to grow. Therefore, if you want to reclaim the deserts, you need to increase the CO2 in the air. Think about it.

Well, so much for that climate change bull crap. Hmmm, maybe the increasing CO2 in the air is largely being caused by the expanding deserts decreasing plant life, which converts CO2 into oxygen? So, the best way to decrease CO2 in the air is to reclaim deserts? Gee, who would have guessed?

BTW, this project MUST be managed by honest, credible scientists who won't sell their souls to the devil for financial gain and definitely not by the corrupt, greedy, power mad, scientifically ignorant upper class trash, their political whores, scientifically ignorant government bureaucrats, greedy universities, or scientifically ignorant and stupid lefty minions, who you know will all find some stupid reason to destroy the program for short term financial gain. I have the utmost faith in these people to eventually screw things up.

Bogus Science

Remember that I have been telling you about bogus science, especially by government owned scientists who sell their souls to the devil and will say anything they have been paid to say?

I got this from American Thinker by Norman Rogers concerning the book "Scientocracy":

"The title of this new book is a play on aristocracy. The science aristocracy is living off its former reputation as honest investigators of the natural world. But now they are largely mean-spirited bureaucrats who don't hesitate to fake science when it serves their bureaucratic and financial goals. The public, politicians, and the media are mostly scientific ignoramuses easily fooled into believing that fake science is rock-solid science. There is an alliance driven by the money-greed of the science mandarins and the socialist dreams of the political Left. It is not an accident that the many ecological catastrophes predicted by rogue science get political support from the Left.

The book consists of 11 essays by prominent whistleblowers that have waged mostly losing battles with the scientocracy. The editors are Patrick Michaels, a distinguished skeptical climate scientist, and Terence Kealey, a biochemist and former university administrator in Great Britain.

The science establishment has been corrupted by money, specifically federal research grants. A wise President Eisenhower warned about the corrupting effect of money on science in this 1961 farewell address. Money is now more important than science. A big bite of every research grant goes to the university as 'overhead.' So the university bureaucracy is intensely focused on bringing in more research grants. For the researcher, money means promotion, status, and the means to engage in expensive research projects."

These unscrupulous scientists with no credibility are the "academic whores" I have warned you about years ago. This is how lefties keep proving whatever lies they want, they just bribe unscrupulous scientists to say what they want said and, whamo, it is a scientific fact, you know, like global warming...uh...I mean climate change. These frauds have no credibility, none, zero.
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DennisTate · Nov 9, 2019

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Volumetric - or Cubic Thermal Expansion
Volumetric temperature expansion with online calculator

tecoyah · Nov 9, 2019

Dennis, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but no level of desalination would have a measurable effect on ocean level rise. At best they would temporarily make a small swath of desert wet and make a lake/river system that then fed back into the ocean. This idea fits nicely into your NDE realm however as it also encompasses great imagination.

Moi621 · Nov 9, 2019

@DennisTate
@tecoyah

Geo Thermal Happens.
And that is the "wild card" ! & !

Flowing water under Antarctic ice.

Arctic and the heat of the North American & Eurasian tectonic plates clashing. Splitting Iceland.

Plus geothermal works both ways.
Warm Up and Cool Down.
is there no certainty?

Mantra:
Global Warming
What Me Worry.

Deus vult
and all that.

Climate changes, just like the weather.

DennisTate · Nov 10, 2019

Moi621 said: ↑

@DennisTate
@tecoyah

Geo Thermal Happens.
And that is the "wild card" ! & !

Flowing water under Antarctic ice.

Arctic and the heat of the North American & Eurasian tectonic plates clashing. Splitting Iceland.

Plus geothermal works both ways.
Warm Up and Cool Down.
is there no certainty?

Mantra:
Global Warming
What Me Worry.

Deus vult
and all that.

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Climate changes, just like the weather.
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Wow!!!!!!

Truly informative..... thank you for this!

Dr. James Hansen referred to a time when temperatures rose by
about three degrees and ocean levels rose by twenty meters or more over four centuries. I assume that he means a little over ten thousand years ago?

DennisTate · Nov 10, 2019

tecoyah said: ↑

Dennis, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but no level of desalination would have a measurable effect on ocean level rise. At best they would temporarily make a small swath of desert wet and make a lake/river system that then fed back into the ocean. This idea fits nicely into your NDE realm however as it also encompasses great imagination.
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Actually... Algeria alone is desalinating over two million cubic meters daily in their fifteen major desalination plants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination_by_country#Algeria

Algeria is believed to have at least 15 desalination plants in operation.

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Tlemcen Souk Tleta 200,000 m3/day

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Beni Saf 200,000 m3/day

Tenes 200,000 m3/day

Fouka 120,000 m3/day

Skikda 100,000 m3/day

Hamma Seawater Desalination Plant 200,000 m3/day built by General Electric[2]

Mostaganem, (Sonaghter) 200,000 m3/day[3]

Magtaa Reverse Osmosis (RO) Desalination Plant 500,000 m3/day, Oran

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination_by_country

Any nation that introduces beavers and allows them to do their duty will have an environment where it takes a lot longer for rain water to make it all the way back to the ocean.

tecoyah · Nov 10, 2019

DennisTate said: ↑

Actually... Algeria alone is desalinating over two million cubic meters daily in their fifteen major desalination plants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination_by_country#Algeria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination_by_country

Any nation that introduces beavers and allows them to do their duty will have an environment where it takes a lot longer for rain water to make it all the way back to the ocean.

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Which makes no difference to what I said.

Moi621 · Nov 11, 2019

tecoyah said: ↑

Which makes no difference to what I said.
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WE allow @DennisTate "latitude".
He be after all.

Moi

DennisTate · Feb 17, 2020

Moi621 said: ↑

WE allow @DennisTate "latitude".
He be after all.

Moi

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Gracias......

BestViewedWithCable · Feb 20, 2020

DennisTate said: ↑

For the last several decades the colossal amount of ice being ADDED to the central region of Antarctica has saved our coastal cities and towns from the threat of rising ocean levels BUT........
how much longer will this factor prevent a serious rise in ocean levels?

Personally I am worried that the tide is turning.....
pardon the pun.....
and we could be only years away from a significant rise in ocean levels.

Thank G-d that the Israelis have invented Sorek and proved that mega-scale desalination of ocean water is economically feasible......
because every cubic meter of ocean water that is desalinated and added to a nation with lots of desert.... is great news for the Maldive Islands, New Orleans, Florida, Bangladesh, The Netherlands, the owners of the 143,000 acres by the Bay of Fundy that has been taken back from the ocean by dikes......etc., etc., etc., etc.,........
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There is an ever increasing quantity of water on the Planet.
Its created at the poles, and piles up in the form of snow and ice.
The Arctic is an ocean, its the only reason you dont see the additional water.

https://www.space.com/15139-northern-lights-auroras-earth-facts-sdcmp.html

Heres a 2.5 hour video of the creation of new water in our atmosphere.

Dont listen to ************. Theyre after your money.

DennisTate · Mar 3, 2020

BestViewedWithCable said: ↑

There is an ever increasing quantity of water on the Planet.
Its created at the poles, and piles up in the form of snow and ice.
The Arctic is an ocean, its the only reason you dont see the additional water.

https://www.space.com/15139-northern-lights-auroras-earth-facts-sdcmp.html

Heres a 2.5 hour video of the creation of new water in our atmosphere.

Dont listen to ************. Theyre after your money.
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Now I personally am unaware of a case for the creation of new water......
my idea was that H2O was melting off the land based Greenland Ice Pack.... the world's land based glaciers......
and generally ending up frozen on top of Antarctica as soon as clouds carrying water are blown over that continent?????

BestViewedWithCable · Mar 13, 2020

DennisTate said: ↑

Now I personally am unaware of a case for the creation of new water......
my idea was that H2O was melting off the land based Greenland Ice Pack.... the world's land based glaciers......
and generally ending up frozen on top of Antarctica as soon as clouds carrying water are blown over that continent?????
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Its both

DennisTate · Jun 8, 2020

BestViewedWithCable said: ↑

Its both
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Very interesting indeed!

Could it be coming from within the core of the earth?

Could it be created as sunlight energy or other types of energy hit the earth?

BestViewedWithCable said: ↑

There is an ever increasing quantity of water on the Planet.
Its created at the poles, and piles up in the form of snow and ice.
The Arctic is an ocean, its the only reason you dont see the additional water.

https://www.space.com/15139-northern-lights-auroras-earth-facts-sdcmp.html

Heres a 2.5 hour video of the creation of new water in our atmosphere.

Dont listen to ************. Theyre after your money.
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DennisTate · Sep 30, 2020

This topic also fits with peace in the Middle East..... and an obvious next step after the Abraham Peace Accord.....

After the Abraham Peace Accord turn deserts green...

DennisTate · Oct 24, 2020

tecoyah said: ↑

Dennis, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but no level of desalination would have a measurable effect on ocean level rise. At best they would temporarily make a small swath of desert wet and make a lake/river system that then fed back into the ocean. This idea fits nicely into your NDE realm however as it also encompasses great imagination.
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I am of the belief that climate can be changed in sizeable areas of the world and that rain in due season can even return to major parts of the Middle East.....but deliberately desalinating ocean water on a large scale can be helpful to get this process going almost like priming a pump.

Professor Peabody · Nov 4, 2020

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For the last several decades the colossal amount of ice being ADDED to the central region of Antarctica has saved our coastal cities and towns from the threat of rising ocean levels BUT........
how much longer will this factor prevent a serious rise in ocean levels?

Personally I am worried that the tide is turning.....
pardon the pun.....
and we could be only years away from a significant rise in ocean levels.

Thank G-d that the Israelis have invented Sorek and proved that mega-scale desalination of ocean water is economically feasible......
because every cubic meter of ocean water that is desalinated and added to a nation with lots of desert.... is great news for the Maldive Islands, New Orleans, Florida, Bangladesh, The Netherlands, the owners of the 143,000 acres by the Bay of Fundy that has been taken back from the ocean by dikes......etc., etc., etc., etc.,........
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Both Gore and Obama don't seem to be worried about it, they both bought multi-million dollar homes on the beach.

DennisTate · Mar 13, 2021

There is some good news..... as well as some bad news on this topic.....

Warming waters in western tropical Pacific may affect West Antarctic Ice Sheet
Rutgers study finds weather patterns that may influence global sea-level rise
Date:
June 13, 2019
Source:
Rutgers University
Summary:
Warming waters in the western tropical Pacific Ocean have significantly increased thunderstorms and rainfall, which may affect the stability of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and global sea-level rise, according to a new tudy.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/06/190613095204.htm

DennisTate · Mar 13, 2021

And some good news.....

Peer-Reviewed Study Confirms Antarctica Has Not Warmed in Last Seven Decades

Jack Hays · Mar 13, 2021

There is no threat to our coastal cities.

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