Trump Food-Stamp Cuts Blocked by Judge Who Cites Pandemic

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  1. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    The judge challenged the administration's claim that the courts lack the authority, implying without any constitutional support that a judge can do anything she wants. She commented that she is aghast at how some courts roll over for the executive branch. This is a statement totally devoid of legalities and jurisprudence, which is the only thing judges are to rule on, and consisting entirely of personal opinion and preference -- not as a supplemental comment but as a justification for a ruling. It is judges like this that are destroying our constitutional republic.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...tamp-cuts-blocked-by-judge-who-cites-pandemic
     
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    It's all about winning. Trump doesn't win enough so activist liberal judges make these erroneous rulings so they can be overturned thus giving Trump another win. They do it a lot with immigration too.
     
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    State VS The Courts will be even more of a fundamental issue the clearer it becomes with left-leaning rulings. We, the people who supposedly elect public officials(based on the stances and proposals mind you) no longer have the policy WE dictate. No, we must listen to the dictate Of Ms. Beryl.

    Well, your Honor. Respectfully, you are to rule over the Court. Not the nation. The greatest problem of the Court, today is that it presides over and casts political rulings, which one side or in worst cases both sides don't like. The Court doesn't resolve problems, it dictates what it considers to be a 'solution' via its fiat ruling.

    More and more of us will find this unacceptable(See: Citizens United, ACA, etc) the more such rulings prop up.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Have you actually READ all 84 pages of the Judge's Ruling on this matter?

    If you have not then you are just posting your own uninformed OPINION that has zero credible basis.
     
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    The judge is playing King. She's decided that she wants Obama's food stamp expansion to stay. Judges didnt expand food stamp policy and had nothing to do with its creation in the first place. Judges are not put in place to create or implement executive policy. Obama's adm was within authority to expand it and Trumps administration is within authority to tighten it up. No one has to read 80 pages to know that.
     
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    Your response does NOT address the point that I was making regarding the OP's UNSUBSTANTIATED opinion!
     
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    Trump does things he is not supposed to do and then makes people fight it, judges can do the same

    Trumpism is the new way, if you can do it legally, right or wrong, then you can do it

    for example, Trump sues poorer people, even when he knows he will lose, just to make them go through the hassle... is that right to do.. no.. can he do it.. legally yes
     
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    activist conservative judges do the same

    conservatives are always pass laws they know are unconstitutional, but they know it takes time to repeal them

    not to mention the conservative government employees\judges that refused to do their jobs to prevent same gender marriage
     
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    How did this person even become a judge??? She had NO say in an administrative decision. She has NO oversight of the Executive Branch and it's functions. Why even have other branches of government when judge can just sit on their high and might benches and govern us by judicial decree.

    Time to impeach this judge.
     
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    So you believe judges are kings now and can legislate from the bench?
     
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    Why? You didn't read it either and you also have an opinion.
     
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    No surprise. Chief Judge Beryl Howell is 'Chief' of the Washington D. C. Federal District Court, and an Obama appointee (2010). You can always count on judges with her 'pedigree' to seize the power to make these kinds of decisions for which Federal courts have been so roundly despised for the last twenty years....

    From the Wiki article on this D. C. Court lib-judge:

    "In 2018, Howell became the supervising judge for the grand jury working for special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections. On October 25, 2019, she ruled in favor of the House Judiciary Committee, which had sought grand jury materials from the Mueller investigation, finding their impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump to be a judicial proceeding." Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_A._Howell

    (Note: neither of the subsequent Articles of Impeachment alleged that Donald Trump had broken a LAW.)

    That about covers it.... :puke:

    [​IMG]. When liberal D. C. Court judges run the government, 'the fun never ends'.... :banana: :alcoholic:
     
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    Any Ruling that is 84 pages long WRT to the regulatory powers of the Executive Branch is going to have LEGAL PRECEDENTS cited in order to substantiate the FINDINGS of the judge.

    But I would not expect any criminal IMPOTUS supporter to grasp facts like these.
     
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    Nor would I expect you to read it.
     
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    And the left refuses to see that we have way more government than necessary.
     
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    I simply cannot understand one simple, elemental thing.... If a person has been ruled not to meet the requirement to get a SNAP account for free food ("food stamps"), then what bearing does anything else have on that decision?!

    Yes, there's a pandemic disease making its way through the country now, but does that mean that suddenly a person is freed from the obligation to FEED HIMSELF?!

    [​IMG]. "Get the fugging government in here to CHANGE MY DIAPER!" :frustrated:
     
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    Her and a dozen or so others. Unfortunately you can impeach judges only for bad behavior but not for atrocious jurisprudence.
     
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    This thread is about a judge so let's stick to talking about judges. It's an apples to apples kinda thing. Now which "conservative judge" has over ruled a law nationwide that has been appealed to the Supreme court and overturned? How often does that happen? Be specific.
     
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    It was a Horrible Mean-Spirited Cut to SNAP and it never should have been enacted in the first place.

    The judge is spot-on.

    This Mean-Spirited Trump Policy is yet another reason why Trump is going to be Voted OUT.
     
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    So quote some. Nice opinion.
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    To the contrary the left believes we are way under governed.
     
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    If we cannot rely upon the executive and legislative branches to protect us, the last resort is the courts. Cruelty seems to be the main motive driving the GOP these days. Fiscal responsibility is nothing but a sales pitch, a bait and switch play that the **********s seem to fall for every time.
     
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    Judges don't rule on their feelings "mean spiritedness". And with historic low unemployment and rising wages why can't we cut back on such expenditures?
     
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    You seem to know very little about the SNAP. For many categories of SNAP recipients there is a three month limit over a longer period of time. Occasionally the State can request an extension for certain usually temporary situations. When that situation no longer exists or the federal government chooses to not extend the three months -- which is soley their prerogative -- the extension stops. Happens all the time.

    The judge is spot off her rocker. She has no judicial business or constitutional authority to make this ruling. Does she dislike the administration's decision? If so that is known officially in legalese as too damn bad.
     

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