China hints at denying Americans life-saving coronavirus drugs

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  1. s002wjh

    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    until i heard China officially said something in their official channel of press conference or from Xi its just another nut jobs saying BS. how many time we seen trump said something stupid, or contradicting with his subordinate etc. how many time politicians say something stupid on tv or tweeter or other media service, how many time media exaggerate things to get viewer etc.
    what do you mean no way, their official is just like ppl here, sometime they spit out crap due to nationalism or other stupid reason, and you are taking it seriously. there were once a chinese general said they gonna nuke LA if US help taiwan etc, this kind BS coming out from china or US or elsewhere happen all the time. Just go look at trumps tweeter. no more than a week ago, he said it will pass, it just a flu, its nothing, same crap on fox. now its National emergence, and fox is like holy crap.
    but hey if you want taking seriously from those nutjobs 10,000 miles away, thats your choice. i certainly dont take trump tweet seriously so i'm not gonna take some ultra-nationlistic chinese tweet seriously either, whos is not even on the same rank as Trump.
     
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  2. Robert E Allen

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    We never attacked China. And we surrounded them with bases because of their aggression..

    By the way. The Truman doctrine was right on! There is absolutely nothing wrong with stopping the spread of communism.
     
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    i'm pretty sure they are not interest in spreading communism, rather making **** load $$$. even many chinese dont call themself communism, they call it getting rich is glorious.
     
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    That's the same whack logic used to "explain" the second gulf war.
    America was there to get the oil.
    America spent a trillion dollars on the war.
    France and China got the oil contracts.

    America fought Communism for one simple reason -
    Communism is antithetical to American values.
     
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    same in afahan after we get rid of taliban, china and other move in to making deal with afahan government for their resource and mining right while we provide security in the region..
    heck china have a wealth or money god that they worship/pay tribute too every beginning of lunar year. also for wedding/lunar year or other occasion instead giving gift, its red envelope which is fill with $$ for kids or old grandparent.

     
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    Which drugs?
     
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    I hate it when people ask questions which prove they didn’t read the OP link
     
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    When you say, "they hold lots of power with the drugs they do manufacture", I can only assume that you're not talking about the non-existent "Coronavirus drugs" referred to in the OP.
     
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    Easy to understand if it turns out the Wuhan military games were how the virus was introduced into China.
     
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    Actually you've attacked almost everybody at one point or another including brutal oppression and military annexation of the Philippines and Hawaii among many other aggression and atrocities that are just not talked about in the current national narrative.

    You are surrounding China and Russia with military based in order to try and project your declining power in central Asia whose resources and central location will create the next global superpower. China and Russia have interior lines while the US has to try to project power from fortress North America - hence the over 800 military bases around the region and the Middle East.

    "U.S. Marines participated in several actions in China after Myers's force reached Peking. Before the siege began, an allied force moved north from Tientsin toward Peking days after a railroad line was torn up, isolating the capital city. Vice Admiral Sir Edward Seymour of the British Royal Navy led this force with U.S. Navy Capt. Bowman McCalla second in command. Seymour's expedition included 112 American sailors and marines. The allied force traveled north, rebuilding the railroad line as they went. Seymour's expedition came within twenty-five miles of Peking but was forced by Boxers and Chinese soldiers to retreat back toward Tientsin. After five days of retreating south, Seymour's force fought its way into a Chinese arsenal six miles north of Tientsin, where they fortified their position and waited for help.

    The United States quickly scrambled to send additional troops to help lift the siege of Peking. Two separate detachments of marines left Cavite in the Philippine Islands and joined up near Taku, China. The first detachment consisted of 107 marines from the First Regiment, who left Cavite on USS Solace. The second detachment of thirty-two marines sailed from Cavite aboard the USS Nashville.9 Around June 18, the two marine detachments combined into a battalion under the command of Maj. Littleton W.T. Waller. On the twentieth, this marine battalion and approximately four hundred Russians engaged the Chinese near Tientsin. The marines were the spearhead of the American-Russian attack but had little success against the more substantial Chinese forces. After an overwhelming counterattack, the Americans and Russians retreated. The marines formed the rear guard of the retreat, in which they were pursued for four hours. Ending up where they started, the marines had marched a total of thirty miles after going to Tientsin and back. They suffered three killed and seven wounded.10 Two days later, Waller's battalion and the Russian force were strengthened to two thousand men with the arrival of British, Russian, German, Italian, and Japanese troops. This enlarged force went on the offensive the next day and took all but the inner walled city of Tientsin. On the twenty-fifth, the international force relieved Seymour's expedition, which had been held up for a month at the Hsi-Ku Arsenal north of Tientsin.11

    The Ninth U.S. Infantry arrived on July 6 and joined the allied forces near Tientsin. The number of marines in China increased when Col. Robert L. Meade and 318 marines arrived on July 10 from the Philippines aboard the USS Brooklyn.12 This detachment of marines moved from the coast to Tientsin, where it joined Waller's battalion, and Meade took over command of the American forces. The next day, the allied force launched an attack against Tientsin to rid the walled inner city of the remaining Chinese and Boxer forces. The attacking force, under the command of a British general, included the marines, the Ninth U.S. Infantry, and British, French, German, Japanese, and Russian forces. Fighting took place most of the day with little to show for it. Of the 451 marines engaged in this action, seventeen enlisted men and four officers became casualties.13 A Japanese night attack broke through the Chinese defenses, allowing the international force to enter the walled city of Tientsin. This breakthrough triggered widespread looting of the city."

    https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1999/winter/boxer-rebellion-1.html

    The money you have wasted fighting an enemy that never needed to be has been a national disgrace as you could have done so much good for your own people and the greater world with all that effort and wealth.

    And if you do not give up your need to have enemies to fight and weapon systems to sell, it could very well be your destruction because more and more people around the world are seeing the moral weakness and corruption of the American system of corporate exploitation of the world and it's resources for the enrichment of the very few and are getting sick and tired of it.

    As your empire declines, you are going to have the choice between being one in a family of peaceful nations and stand down with your wars of aggression and regime change to countries you don't like or continue to weaponize the world creating death, poverty and war where ever you go.
     
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    There are no coronavirus drugs. Drug shortages in general will happen when economies shut down though, regardless of where they are produced.
     
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    You're welcome!!!!!!
     
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    But don't you see, we (well, Bernie Sanders for one) are against BIG PHARMA.
    So it's carrot juice and herbal remedies, or we can buy our medicine from China's
    Big Pharma. They might even loan us the money.
     
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    American oil companies did bid for the oil contracts but were out bid by China and Russia (I don't remember French companies bidding but may have done). The US was assuming that they would win the bids but the cost of security was too high for American companies. The cost of security for Chinese and Russian companies was much lower because they were not seen as the aggressors and hence could bid a lower price to the Iraqi government. US assumed that Iraq would be eternally grateful for the "liberation" and would give preference to them.
     
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    So many trigger words. I wonder why they need so many if what they say is 'true'?
     
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    That's an interesting point. Didn't know that.
    But in the end, America has to bid for contracts,
    it didn't barge into Iraq to just take their oil.
    I doubt Hitler would have bid for Stalin's oil
    had he taken the Soviet Baku oil fields.
     
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    My great friend, where is the Xinhua article that foxnews claimed that "China could impose pharmaceutical export controls which would plunge America into 'the mighty sea of coronavirus.'" :yawn:

    According to my idol and famous American Trump critic Jack Holmes' website, "Fox News Is Still Peddling Coronavirus Misinformation to Its Extremely At-Risk Viewers"

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a31468352/fox-news-coronavirus-misinformation-elderly-viewers/

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/chinese-deny-americans-coronavirus-drugs
     
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    For the same reason, Americans have been exposed to other cultures for a long time. What have they learned from the rest of the world?

    My great friend, as a citizen of a supposedly sole superpower, you are expected to think logically and rationally. Yet you swallow all the lies of Fox News hook, line, and sinker. :fishing:
     
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    It's time for "divorce" between the two countries? I think "divorce" is not a bad idea for both who cannot get together. As an analogy, if an abused wife discovers that her husband is flirting with other women, divorce is definitely a liberation for her.
     
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    As pointed out by famous American Trump critic, Jack Holmes, "Fox News Is Still Peddling Coronavirus Misinformation to Its Extremely At-Risk Viewers".

    The poster just peddles all its lies to us in the hope that everybody here will swallow them like him. :fishing:

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a31468352/fox-news-coronavirus-misinformation-elderly-viewers/
     
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    It looks like you have never attempted to become first or get a distinction for any subject in your school days because you seem to consider it a great sin for an individual, an organisation or a country to outperform the best.

    My great friend, how can the world progress if everyone thinks like you? :xd:
     
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    It's a possibility and a logical scenario given U.S. habit of black flag & covert operations.


    Could be.


    Not impossible.


    Plausible, and wouldn't be the first time the U.S. has done such a thing.

    Finding plausible reasons (plural) for an incident that is unknown is normal. Better ... much better .... than using a string of a variety of excuses to explain why you committed your own crime, such as the illegal invasion of Irak.
     
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    The best reply I have ever come across. It's the FINAL REVELATION that debunks this ridiculous thread and Fox's lies.

    If China does have the so-called "Lifesaving Coronavirus drugs", people like Tom Cotton, Marco Rubio, Peter Navarro and Donald Trump will have insomnia every night because China will become the richest country dominating the world with its global monopoly of the "elusive, miraculous cure" of Coronavirus diseases. :angel:
     
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    Still spouting the same old absurd slander, I see.
     
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    I do not doubt the possibility of the U.S. carrying out such an operation but I agree with you that they'd do it with far more stealthy tactics than that. No, I don't believe it would have happened that way.
     
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