Rape And Sex Crime

Discussion in 'Women's Rights' started by ibshambat, Mar 13, 2020.

  1. ibshambat

    ibshambat Banned

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    From what I've heard, it appears that the biggest trauma of rape is that of disempowerment. The woman feels like her body has been taken from her. I have suggestions on how this trauma can be effectively overcome.

    One suggestion is to take martial arts. Martial arts not only teaches the person that she can defend herself; it also addresses the trauma directly. Martial arts builds a relationship of self-mastery with one's body. The person gains power over her body and thus becomes empowered over her body – even to a greater extent than she had been before the rape. Martial arts builds confidence and knowledge that one can defend oneself. More importantly, it builds self-mastery over one's body. And that makes one more empowered than one was prior to the rape.

    Another suggestion is inviting God into her life. Here one is in touch with a power far greater than that of the rapist, and this power is righteous and good. God gives meaning, wisdom and a workable concept of ethics, and He is far more powerful than any man. If the trauma is that of disempowerment, then being in touch with the most powerful force in the known universe stands to go a long way toward solving that problem.

    Right now, the leading approach to helping women who have been victims of such things is teaching them self-esteem and strength in themselves. That may work for some, but in any number of cases this can be a self-defeating approach. The self is not the only, nor the best, source of strength, and a person who is strong only in herself may not be actually strong. Such a person is likely to be selfish and also not to have a broad enough perspective. Whereas if a person is strong in God, she identifies with something much greater than herself, which means that she is more likely to take risks, make sacrifices and act with genuine courage.

    For people who experience sexual urges that they do not want, I can think of two approaches. One is practiced by Buddhist monks. They meditate on decomposing corpses in order to do away with their sexuality. If they can do away with their whole sexuality that way, then people who experience pedophilic or otherwise unacceptable urges should be able to use this meditation to do away with these urges. Another is simply to hit yourself if you get urges of that kind. That should use classical Pavlovian reinforcement to de-condition the urge.

    Now certainly I would not expect government-run centers for helping women dealing with things such as rape to preach Christian religion. That would be seen as violating the separation of church and state. However both churches and martial arts outlets can do outreach to these women and get them involved in something that works in overcoming their trauma. And that should help in solving this problem.
     
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    Have you posted this before? This seems very familiar. I know I've done it, accidentally posted something I did before thinking I had done it on a different forum.

    I have to address this. Disorders like pedophilia, ****philia, ephebophilia, kleptomania, and Tourette's (spelling may be off) are due to actual problems with a person's make up and are not learned behaviors. As such they are not easily gotten rid of. Even Pavlovian methods are rarely effectively. A lot of the rest of your post is good suggestions, although not necessarily working for all. But this point needed to be noted.
     
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    Perhaps rape victims should be allowed therapy dogs and should be encouraged to choose breeds such as Shepards, Malinois, rottweiler, doberman, giant schnauzer, Dutch Shepard e.t.c. Also they should be encouraged to get into professional protection dog training/and pay to have their dogs professionally trained. A true friend and guardian angel may be what these victims need the most.

    I know it sounds silly but I always feel safe and confident when I'm walking my Shepard at night in the isolated woods near my house. Without him at my side I would not venture into the darkness alone.
     
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    That is a very original suggestion. I have a friend who got a dog to protect her from her husband. It can help deter aggression.
     
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    So you are saying that they are neurological abnormalities instead of psychological problems. That may well be the case. However, once again, if Buddhists can meditate away their whole sexuality, then so can pedophiles meditate away their unwanted urges.
     
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    Do what I do when I have dark disgusting urges vent them with phone sex with an phone sex provider willing to do that, for men or women so inclined to hurt others of any age.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you graduate from the school of "Clockwork Orange?"
     
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    I'd need to see studies on how such meditations work on impulse control disorders, but since those monks are meditating without such disorders, it's not an automatic assumption that having a disorder is treatable by such method.
     
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    Of course you are right.
     
  10. Maquiscat

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    Hey if you can show me the studies that such actually works with impulse buy control disorders, I'm willing to accept it. I've just never heard of such. Again, we are talking about a person with a disorder as opposed to one without. What works for one doesn't automatically work for the other.
     
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    I bet there are thousands of pervs that are able to control their urges right now. Some are probably reading this ....I won't name names tkolter....oops
     
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    Your use of "perv" is still a subjective opinion and not based on anything objective. It also doesn't address the efficiency of the previously described methods for those with impulse control disorders.
     
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    Most pervs can there's phone sex, adult stories all over the internet and adult comics not to mention videos streaming for many save underage people since many of us don't wish to go to prison (well literary works are an exception that's largely 1st Amendment protected). And sex providers for pay will role-play to a good degree if asked and if available.

    Seriously there's fantasy and reality they are separate. Decent perverts keep them separate.

    Now let me go read De Sade's Philosophy of the Bedroom. ^_^
     
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    Again, whether something or someone is a perversion/pervert, is purely a subjective issue. It is also separate from those who have impulse control disorders. I do not dispute that the methods given by the OP might well work with regards to individuals with no problems. What I am asking for is evidence that such methods work for those with impulse control disorders.
     
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    One thing many of these women do is keep a small gun in their purse.
    It may or may not actually provide protection to them, but it makes them feel much more safe and in-control.
     
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