People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?

People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?

The real Original Sin, then and today, to most Christians, is based on this quote.

“For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil" (Gen. 3:5).

Jesus seems to have wanted this to happen, as that would make us his brethren.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught and that Gnostic Christians have embraced.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.


If Jesus wants us to know of good and evil, as a prerequisite to being born again as his brethren, it goes well with Jesus’ prediction as quoted above.

That may be why Christians sing that Adam’s sin was a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan.

I am not a literal reader of this myth, but this seems to make sense. It follows then that it makes sense for Adam to ignore Yahweh’s command not to gain an education.

Thoughts?

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DL

 

So homoexuality is really ok?

 

People want to be their own gods.

Thinking people already are.

 

The Gnosticism of the gospels must bbe the narrow path while orthodoxy is the wide path and easy to travel.

Gnostics believe in a hidden knowledge from seeking inwardly the kingdom of god . It reminds me somewhat of the zen koan .

Yep Watts was an ordained episcopal priest until he left the church. His books and talks on Christ tends to be the gnostic view.

 

It's always funny. And usually kind of sad.

Of course it always sounds better than how it actually turns out.

 

Fantasy is fantasy such as all the gods mankind had dream up over the last few thousands years that we have some records of.

Fairly such the god concept date back to even before we became fully human.

 

ah yes the loss of innocence, when you mature to reason and come to understand the existence of good and evil.

Isnt that the apple biting thing?

 

I suppose I could be a god if I wanted to be one, but not for very long.

 

People look out for #1 most of the time. At best for 99%, they may put their children ahead of themselves. It's not really meaningful to call that "god-like." It's not being omniscient, omnipresent, or omnipotent to be selfish. Or in the case of the Adam myth, to be curious (a SIN!!). It's just being human. And religions teach us to have contempt for human nature because its very purpose is to control it.

Human nature is neither good nor evil, but it's often not as well-adapted to the modern world as it was to the tribal world.

 

unfortunately for your premise a great deal of what is good and what is evil varies from person to person and culture to culture. There are few if any absolutes.

 

They are closer but most will not be man enough or god enough to fight the government.

If you would have said that of the older type of American, I would be all in.

The newer cowed and slaved American is not worthy of respect.

I liked and miss the better Americans. I hope they come back.

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DL

 

I do not discriminate negatively without a just cause. I am not a Christian. I am a Gnostic Christian.

What happens between consenting adults is none of my business or anyone else's.

Homosexuals, and all the other sexual natures that are not the mainstream, are not in control of their DNA or it's defects anymore than heterosexual are.

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DL

 

Indeed. He liked the religions that put man above the gods, because, like me, he knew that they were all man made.

He also had a moral sense and knew of the immorality in our mainstream religions.

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DL

 

I think I would prefer to bump into an atheist than bump into a guy that thinks a genocidal and infanticidal god is a good god.

You think that that immoral fools thinking is a good way to turn out do you?

Remember that Yahweh, Hitler, Islam are all fascist constructs.

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DL

 

At least 50,000 years or so.

That is approximately the date they give to the oldest shrine to date in Africa.

It, like so many religions, honored the serpent.

That is partly why I chose Kaa for my avatar. Plus my wife thinks him cute.

Kaa means soul in Egyptian and one of the oldest decent myths that is the root of all the Abrahamic cults myths. There and Sumer.

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DL

 

Yep. Apple is used to dumb down the fact that we are talking of all the knowledge of everything.

Christians and all can do without an apple but the G D church would be hard pressed to gain adherents if they knew that Yahweh just want dummies and not intelligent thinkers.

Christians do not like to see their children mature. They become so demanding and want to know why they are forced to do stupid things by their parents. Can't have that. It might force parents to smarten up themselves.

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DL

 

True, but if you defined god as just the best human you can be, you can be god till you die.

Most Christians no longer evolve to be the fittest thinkers.

As an intelligent poster above said, Christians are on the wide and easy road to hell while Gnostic Christians will take the harder path to heaven.

Not the imaginary supernatural garbage heaven, but the one right here and now that Jesus saw and spoke of.

He, like me, recognized that this is the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world when our history and science, via the anthropic principle and entropy are considered.

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DL

 

I liked your view but do not agree with your last due to what I see. That is that we may actually be too nice to each other, to the point where evolutionists are having a hard time explaining why?



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DL

 

It is all subjective, I agree, but that does not kill the statistics that say that 70 odd % of us all start our moral thinking and ethical actions on some kind of a Golden Rule.

That is not an absolute, but it is a constant that our instincts produce and that moral psychologists have found.

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DL

 

We are however pack animals so there is some universal foundations behind the feelings of what is or is not evil.

 

Indeed.

People forget that our basic instincts set our morals and ethics, as it does for all animals.

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DL

 

Of course. Sex is not sinful unless it's forced upon an unwilling victim. Mutual love is always a positive thing, regardless of who is involved.

 

Actually we are tribal animals and while evil may be uniform within a tribe it is certainly not universal between tribes.

 

How does that square with laws about sex with minors os sex with mentally handicapped.

 

who is us?