Corona Virus Update

Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by HereWeGoAgain, Mar 12, 2020.

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    It has just begun. The reason they are shutting down cities - schools, bars, restaurants, large events, etc, is they are desperately trying to contain this and avoid it spreading throughout the community like a wildfire. That would overwhelm our resources and our ability to manage the medical crisis. That is what happened in Italy. They ended up doing things like deciding who lives and who dies based on the number of respirators available! China quarantined 17 cities to stop it. And it worked for now.

    Over time we evolve herd resistance. The virus can mutate to less deadly forms. Or it might die out seasonally. But for now it is a wildfire. That is why even trump finally declared a national emergency. And he was living in total denial. He seems to believe that stopping travel from China stopped it. But it didn't. Now watch the numbers explode.
     
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    we do, sadly many still do not get the vaccine, wash their hands, ect...

    be nice when we have a vaccine for Corona too, course many will refuse to take it too

    remember, the more that take the vaccine, the harder it is for the virus to spread so fast and overwhelm the medical facilities - that is the issue here, no vaccine
     
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    If Trump had preemptively banned travel from everywhere, we know damn well what the response would have been. It also may have been too late even when he did, considering the virus may have originated as early as November/December of 2019.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it's tough for those that don't want to disagree with Trump on anything, especially when he changes directions like the wind
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think many here had it in December, just was not reported, what we want from Trump is to stop lying to us, just let the experts handle it
     
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    Trump has not lied. Try again.
     
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    Are you aware the Republican governor of Ohio shut down all bars and restaurants? Why do you think he did that? Because this IS like the flu?

    Or because it's not?
     
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    Ah so! The halcyon days of youth.
     
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    I don't know, I haven't talked to him. You?
     
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    Yes, he went from hoax to travel ban so fast, some of the people here still haven't caught up.
     
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    Louisiana had announced that their public school system would be closing for a month. Parents of kids who receive free breakfast and lunches are having a fit because they will not get their free meals, so some parishes are now going to be handing out bagged breakfasts and lunches in drive thru fashion at the schools. Kid must be in the car. Wow, so now it's the schools responsibility to make sure kids eat? So instead of making a peanut butter and jelly sandwhich or a bowl of oatmeal for breakfast, parents will load kids up, drive them to school and get the bags, making the cafeteria workers still go in daily and handle the food. Does this make any sense? No, it's just more evidence of the entitlement society we've created.
     
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    SCMP reports patient zero discovered November 17.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...nas-first-confirmed-covid-19-case-traced-back
     
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    "Scientists are now keen to identify the so-called patient zero, which could help them to trace the source of the coronavirus, which is generally thought to have jumped to humans from a wild animal, possibly a bat.
    Of the first nine cases to be reported in November – four men and five women – none has been confirmed as being “patient zero”. They were all aged between 39 and 79, but it is unknown how many were residents of Wuhan, the capital of Hubei and the epicentre of the outbreak. Same source.
     
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    If this is just a general COVID thread, I post this about somebody semi-famous, who got a lot of air time back in December.

    SNIP
    Daniel Goldman, an attorney and former congressional staffer who served as the House Intelligence Committee’s majority counsel, revealed Sunday that he tested positive for COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus spreading worldwide.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/daniel-goldman-coronavirus-testing-212247974.html

    Sure sounds like he "wanted" a test....
     
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    While at it they can create a vaccine for the other corona virusesviruse...like the common cold.
     
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    First you use all these inflammatory terms and then you drop a load. Tell me about how we "evolved herd resistance" to polio and small pox. We didn't. The diseases continued to kill ravish and disfigure until we developed vaccines. We can give each other the virus but we can't give each other natural immunity. Do you think natural immunity is sprinkled about like pixie dust?
    What evidence do you have for that?
    No he wasn't. While the left was mindlessly engaging in their stupid impeachment, Trump was implement safeguards that has our infection rate well below Europe, that didn't implement the same prompt prudent measures.
    What a fabrication. He said no such thing.
    Why don't you focus on being more forward facing and solution oriented. Think about what you can do to help those in your community weather this. Your blame fixing and finger pointing won't save a single life.

    Since Democrats in Congress keep attacking
    @realDonaldTrump, let's compare records.

    JAN 7: CDC established a coronavirus incident management system, two days before China announced the outbreak.
    Pelosi began Week 3 of withholding her sham impeachment articles.

    JAN 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to confront coronavirus.
    What were Congressional Democrats focused on? Writing their opening arguments for their bogus impeachment trial.

    JAN 27: A tale of 2 press conferences.
    @Mike_Pence outlined the administration's efforts to work with China to counter coronavirus.
    Chuck Schumer demanded that more time be wasted with new impeachment witnesses.

    JAN 31: @realDonaldTrump initiated travel restrictions from China, which the experts have praised as a critical decision to slow the spread of coronavirus.
    Democrat leaders called him “xenophobic” and “racist.”

    FEB 9: The Trump administration’s Coronavirus Task Force met with governors to coordinate response efforts.
    Chuck Schumer was busy soliciting inspectors general to open NEW investigations into @realDonaldTrump

    FEB 24:@realDonaldTrump requested additional funding to fight the coronavirus.
    Democrat Jerry Nadler demanded more documents from AG Barr to continue his political vendetta against the Trump administration.

    MAR 2: The Trump administration secured commitments from top pharmaceutical companies to develop a vaccine to fight coronavirus.
    Democrats began "quietly discussing moving ahead with punishments for individuals who defied subpoenas" in the impeachment sham.

    BOTTOM LINE: While @realDonaldTrump and his administration have been focused on protecting US, Democrats in Congress have been focused on attacking HIM!

    https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1237790623819878402

    You guys have consistently shown yourselves to so in your own bubble that you really are no help to anyone, but, if you could get over yourselves and pitch in with the rest of us, we are in the midst of managing a crisis. But, if need be, we'll manage without you.

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    Again and this is Key ... If President Trump was to announce that
    there is now a Cure for most cancer,it would be met with nothing
    short of Obstinate outrage.Name-calling and you name it.
    Guys like Bernie " the Red " Sanders would go back to his scripted
    lie that Trump is a Pathological Liar,a Racist,a Homophobe and
    Mysogynist.The useful Idiot approach to what being a Real American
    Patriot demands.Action and results.Not Red Talk.By some hunchback
    white-haired old son of a buck who constantly shakes his little old
    lady fickle finger around as if some Carny Fortune teller.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't understand how it's possible to rake-up over 44,ooo posts
    in under 5 years.Especially given the lengths of some posts.
    Care to enlighten us as to how you manage those totals.
    I just achieved my 44,ooo th post after over 10 years here.
     
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    You seem to have completely lost track of the discussion you are participating in. Breathe, focus, we are discussing the Coronavirus and the importance that we as a community are forward facing and focused on solutions while helping those in need around us as we are able to.

    Where in the world did you get the idea we could rapidly "evolve herd immunity" without vaccines? I asked you specifically to respond to our experiences with polio and smallpox which ravished, crippled, destroyed and disfigured humans for CENTURIES until vaccines were developed.

    We can give each other the disease, but we can't rapidly hand each other resistance without a vaccine.
     
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    Zero ... Smear-O.
    Keen or Not Keen,let alone clean.What good is all that crap.
    Take a Serial Killer.You don't need to know the first victim or exact
    place it was done.That may help,but usually doesn't.Catching in the act
    is the way our courts most prefer.
    In the case of woman,that may add up to nothing.Like in the Casey Anthony
    verdict.
    You go by good old-fashioned common sense and hunches.
    Virus don't know any of that.Just that it needs to go out and maim,
    kill and scare.Like a Serial Killer.So treat it as such.Scare it right back.
    With whatever weapons you have at yer disposal.
    This isn't Trench warfare.It's hand-to-hand combat.Very Personal
    and indiscriminatory.Like Serial Killing.
     
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    Again Unlike in 2009 and a far more deadly and pervasive pandemic
    like the Swine flu ... Infecting Over 60 million and killing over 12,ooo.
    Get back to us when YOU are more accustomed to a Real Scare.Real
    threat.Not some Hyped,perceived Threat.
    Again todays Left and Democrat Party fix NOTHING.
    That is what the American Populace under Obama noticed and felt
    in their gut and were Sick to Death of.
    Which explains perfectly the overflow crowds throughout the land
    for President Trump at his Rallys.
    And the contrary for Democrat saps like Old Joe Biden.
     
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    Oh for cryin' out loud.China is DIRECTLY responsible for the Outbreak.
    And Hiding it from the world and disappearing a few Journalist in
    China willing to risk their life reporting on it.
    If China initiated a quick rapid response and quarantined instead
    of using Communist Propaganda to hide this Pandemic then the
    world could have been spared.
    Senator Tom Cotton is on this Americanized Hysteria using our
    MSM with the same Communist China propaganda.
    He is getting to the bottom of how this outbreak was handled and
    hid by China.
    You have been successfully Stooged by this Lapdog media.
    Same way Americans were about the Benghazi Attack.
    Or Y2K.
     
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    What kind of drivel are you spewing again? China did quarantine 17 cities and do seem to have contained it for the moment. How it got started has nothing to do with anything I said. Come back to earth.
     
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    Poetic Justice. Treasonous trump gets taken out by a Chinese flu named after a Mexican beer.
     
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    I view our elderly as a national treasure. You and I might be fine, but when it gets in the old folks population, the butcher's bill is real.

    Italy had it get into their elderly populations and their death rate in their 4,000+ completed cases is 44% dead.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

    They doubled from 12k to 25k in the last 4 days.

    What's your expectation for the next 4 days?

    And the 4 days after that?

    We don't want to panic, and we don't want to under-react. We want to find the middle ground and hit it like a freight train, just like we are. We could have a rough quarter coming up, but we are going into it in fantastic shape and we'll come through this. I don't mind changing my behavior as necessary to help myself and the folks around me.

    We're going to do this, and it's going to work.
     
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