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Are you tired of "Winning" yet?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lucifer, Mar 16, 2020.

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  1. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Outside of TDS, can you give specific examples of what you call the "horrible handling of this epidemic?"

    ...... didn't think so.......
     
    RodB, Mar 17, 2020
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Does this mean you are now going to credit Trump for the good his administration has done? No? Simply acknowledge? Didn't think so......
     
    RodB, Mar 17, 2020
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  3. Collateral Damage

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    Do you understand what drives the market?

    After hearing years of 'Trump didn't do that' in regards to the stock market, some people are now all about blaming him for the drop. OK, let's say 'fair is fair' according to your method of measuring.

    Say it. Be specific, naming the benefits of the increasing markets over the last 3+ years, then you have a right to also name what will happen as the markets drop.

    Unless, of course, you don't know what benefits came with the rising markets. Then your silence is self-explanatory.
     
    Collateral Damage, Mar 17, 2020
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  4. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The DOW has TANKED to within 2 points of where it was when your criminal IMPOTUS was imposed on the Oval Office.

    Jobs are now vanishing and a recession is beginning because of his INCOMPETENCE when it comes handling this Pandemic.

    That is what is called a WIPE OUT!
     
    Derideo_Te, Mar 17, 2020
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  5. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why vote at al since you seem to be consumed with negativity?
     
    yabberefugee, Mar 17, 2020
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    Yes, the markets are down. Pandemics can do that to a market. He is the POTUS, and your POTUS also, regardless of who you or I voted for.

    Obviously you believe Trump is the reason the pandemic exists. How does that play out with what happened in China, Italy and every other nation effected?

    Please tell the rest of us how the pandemic traveled to this country. You apparently have some insider information the rest of us don't know about, since CV-19 has shown it's ability to spread faster than any other previous virus of it's type. Your belief of it being all Trump's fault must have some basis other than your opinion that people leaving a particular team left no information behind, no other people were trained, no other people were capable of forming a cohesive plan.
     
    Collateral Damage, Mar 17, 2020
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Not in the least bit interested in wasting my time on your absurdly nonsensical strawman fallacies.
     
    Derideo_Te, Mar 17, 2020
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    I didn’t know you had to be Mary Poppins to vote lol
     
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  9. Collateral Damage

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    Dodge and drop noted.
     
    Collateral Damage, Mar 17, 2020
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    PROJECTION noted!
     
    Derideo_Te, Mar 17, 2020
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    drluggit, Mar 17, 2020
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    The wafty smell of hot pockets carmalized on freshly microwaved tin foil.....
     
    drluggit, Mar 17, 2020
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  13. Collateral Damage

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    Please expand your vocabulary. Claiming projection is weak, especially when the chain of responses is right there in front of everyone.
     
    Collateral Damage, Mar 17, 2020
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your inability to provide a substantive response is typical of a lot of your posts.
     
    Derideo_Te, Mar 17, 2020
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Ironic coming from someone who posts asinine strawman bovine excrement!
     
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    Proof of what? We have a pandemic. It is what it is.

    When he stops working to drain the swamp.

    I've never encountered cult let alone been influenced by one.

    I missed the horrible handling. Perhaps you can fill me in. What did he do that you don't like?
     
    fmw, Mar 17, 2020
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    that is my point... if he wants to take credit for the good, then he also has to take credit for the bad
     
    FreshAir, Mar 17, 2020
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    some have a script, even if you don't say what they want you to say, sometimes they just pretend you did
     
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    Please specify what you believe is strawman in that statement. You have repeatedly stated that the pandemic is because of Trump's ineptitude. Generalizations on your part are becoming clearer that is a matter of dodging honest and debate worthy conversation.
     
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    Trump already has taken credit for the good, so now he has to take credit for the bad - it works both ways
     
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    FreshAir, Mar 17, 2020
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    That's not what I said, and I believe you know it.

    You are not acknowledging anything positive that Trump had done, but more than happily putting it up there that anything bad you can attribute to him.

    Do you see the difference between him acknowledging it, and you acknowledging it?
     
    Collateral Damage, Mar 17, 2020
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    These are your puerile strawmen that you pulled out of your nether regions.

    [QUOTE="Collateral Damage, post: 1071518301, member: 60845"]your opinion that people leaving a particular team left no information behind, no other people were trained, no other people were capable of forming a cohesive plan.[/QUOTE]
     
    Derideo_Te, Mar 17, 2020
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    I am not a Trump loyalist. I did not vote for him and I will not vote for him in November.

    But I've seen both the Democratic governors of California and New York praise the president's handling of the outbreak. How do you reconcile this with your position?

    Also, the next presidential election is not about if he "deserves" another term, it is about the fact that the Democratic are not offering viable alternatives to Trump. This is what happened on 2016. In my estimation, voting for the current crop of Democrats is the same cult like behavior that the Temp supporters demonstrate.

    I haven't voted in 20+ years , because there have been no viable options offered, among other reaaons.
     
    TedintheShed, Mar 17, 2020
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    Hear, hear!
     
    Crownline, Mar 17, 2020
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    In multiple places, you have laid the pandemic at Trump's feet. By doing so, you have made it clear that you beleive that Trump is responsible for the pandemic. Nothing strawman about it.

    In continuity of that statement, I stated that you should share the information that provides you with the knowledge that Trump is responsible for the pandemic. Nothing strawman in that statement.

    You have stated/quoted in another thread I beleive that Trump fired the team that took the training for pandemic readiness, and therefore it was his 'ineptitude' that allowed the panedemic to happen. Nothing strawman in there either.
     
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